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  • wantitall4moi
    SBR MVP
    • 04-17-10
    • 3063

    #1
    Lakers still highly over rated
    Philly -4. Seriously?

    Only way Lakers cover is to win SU odds of that are a lot more than the 8/5 or so books give them credit for.

    This is also the smallest number, by quite a bit, Philly has had to lay at home. They were technically a dog to Mia so they didnt have to lay any poins there.

    They have played several teams better than the Lakers, Chi +1.5 Won SU, Mia +2 Got blown out, Indiana(beat LA in LA) was +7 in Philly. Denver was +6, but Denver did win SU, Atl was +6.5.

    So this game looks like you bite the bullet and take a shitty LA ML or just lay the 4. Either way betting the Lakers offers zero 'value' simply because they continue to be highly over rated.
  • jstblaze
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-05-07
    • 767

    #2
    Completely disagree!

    Originally posted by wantitall4moi
    Philly -4. Seriously?

    Only way Lakers cover is to win SU odds of that are a lot more than the 8/5 or so books give them credit for.

    This is also the smallest number, by quite a bit, Philly has had to lay at home. They were technically a dog to Mia so they didnt have to lay any poins there.

    They have played several teams better than the Lakers, Chi +1.5 Won SU, Mia +2 Got blown out, Indiana(beat LA in LA) was +7 in Philly. Denver was +6, but Denver did win SU, Atl was +6.5.

    So this game looks like you bite the bullet and take a shitty LA ML or just lay the 4. Either way betting the Lakers offers zero 'value' simply because they continue to be highly over rated.
    I think this line is spot on.
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    • William Walters
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-17-11
      • 6372

      #3
      Copy & Paste:

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      Quote:
      Originally Posted by zsr
      this "wantitall" guys unreal.

      First he posts he used to have lakers season tickets, in his next thread it was he used to have clipper season tickets.

      Next, the lakers will be in the lottery. Then, nvm they'll get swept in the first round.

      Then, even though the attendance numbers are off the charts as usual, he says it's all a lie and he knows the true attendance and the arena is only half full

      Then, the lakers have been just a perennial .500 team and nothing more.

      Next, he's smarter then all general managers.

      Now he's in another thread talking about how much money he's made sports betting

      You can't make this stuff up. he predicted the Lakers would go 24-42

      And also how he said Kobe has sucked for 16 yrs & all he does is "throw UP sh#t & it goes in."
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      • darkhat
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-18-10
        • 5722

        #4
        Originally posted by william walters
        copy & paste:

        ________________________________________ ________________________________________ _____________
        quote:
        Originally posted by zsr
        this "wantitall" guys unreal.

        First he posts he used to have lakers season tickets, in his next thread it was he used to have clipper season tickets.

        Next, the lakers will be in the lottery. Then, nvm they'll get swept in the first round.

        Then, even though the attendance numbers are off the charts as usual, he says it's all a lie and he knows the true attendance and the arena is only half full

        then, the lakers have been just a perennial .500 team and nothing more.

        Next, he's smarter then all general managers.

        Now he's in another thread talking about how much money he's made sports betting

        you can't make this stuff up. He predicted the lakers would go 24-42

        and also how he said kobe has sucked for 16 yrs & all he does is "throw up sh#t & it goes in."
        ________________________________________ ________________________________________ ____________

        lolol
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        • smoke a bowl
          SBR MVP
          • 02-09-09
          • 2776

          #5
          Some posters just love typing a bunch of shit while saying anything.
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          • wantitall4moi
            SBR MVP
            • 04-17-10
            • 3063

            #6
            considering Lakers are 8-16 or 9-15 ATS depending on when you got in, I would say theyre highly over rated so far.

            The sign of an over rated team is when they win SU and still dont cover. Sort of a moot point here as lakers are dogs, but also like I say the chances of them 'covering' 4 (losing by 1 2 or 3) are highly improbable. So best shot with them is ML or nothing. Considering everything -4 on Philly is a great number. The 'real' number should probably have been 6 or 6.5.
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            • smoke a bowl
              SBR MVP
              • 02-09-09
              • 2776

              #7
              Originally posted by wantitall4moi
              considering Lakers are 8-16 or 9-15 ATS depending on when you got in, I would say theyre highly over rated so far.

              The sign of an over rated team is when they win SU and still dont cover. Sort of a moot point here as lakers are dogs, but also like I say the chances of them 'covering' 4 (losing by 1 2 or 3) are highly improbable. So best shot with them is ML or nothing. Considering everything -4 on Philly is a great number. The 'real' number should probably have been 6 or 6.5.
              This is about as dumb of a statement that can possibly be made by someone who claims he does this profitably. You might want to actually consider the prices when making decisions such as +4 or ml.
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              • PR9
                SBR MVP
                • 12-30-11
                • 2813

                #8
                to be fair, Philly is quite overrated as well

                Beating a bunch of shit teams at home, and the only notable victory was the bulls with Deng out and Rose with the flu (even collins admitted to the fact Rose looked spent in the 2nd half of that game from his chair), and haven't beaten any good teams on the road sans ATL who played just as poorly and lackadaisical in their last home game vs MEM...

                makes Philly quite overrated as well. Nice team, but they are not a "great" team as I've heard from people all of a sudden. They are still a couple of years away from truly contending and being a great team.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Lets see what Phila shows us tonight
                  If they lose then they might be overrated
                  Phila did have a big win on road other night
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                  • letsgo
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-27-10
                    • 2204

                    #10
                    Elton Brand out.
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                    • wantitall4moi
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-17-10
                      • 3063

                      #11
                      Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                      This is about as dumb of a statement that can possibly be made by someone who claims he does this profitably. You might want to actually consider the prices when making decisions such as +4 or ml.
                      Both are bad. Brand out explains it though. Lakers should be +200 at least on the road against just about any team. A team like Philly they should probably be +225 making Philly about -250. Thats at least -6. One could say given Lakers horrid road record +275 wouldnt be too much against a really good team. Thats around 6.5 or so. So ANY number on the Lakers at less thn +200 ML or I would say at best 5.5 is a 'bad' number to take.

                      But considering Lakers were only +5.5 against Miami it just shows how theyre completely and utterly over rated. People still betting them like is 2001 and they have Phil and Shaq still. So books have to keep putting up dumb lines on them.

                      Lakers have 14 wins, how many of those wins were 'impressive'? I would say none of them. Other than maybe beating up on a horrible Bobcats teams. Other than that every win they have gotten be it a 'good' win or just a win have been unimpressive and against the 'quality' teams could have really gone either way. They have yet to come close to a 'statement' game that says "we are still good and can dominate any team in the league if we want to". Far from it.

                      I'll give them a LITTLE credit for winning a couple games I didnt think they could but those wins were by no means in a manner that makes me think the Lakers are a legit team. So therefore against teams that are better than them, like Philly you have to think they will lose. Now when we get to Boston and NY that is a different sorry. Theyre probably on par with those two teams. Home game makes Celts and Knick favored, but LA might steal one of them. They may have even been a fav at Knicks if not for the back to back angle. Stil might end up that way if enough deluded people bet them.

                      In the long run this is going to be a good game to watch and then see what appenes at half time. Philly has owned teams in the 3rd quarter this year. If lakers have their typical 3rd quarter slump that quarter alone will be enough to have them get blown out.

                      A 3rd quarter with a score like 28-8 Philly wouldnt be that surprising.
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                      • mp5070
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-13-08
                        • 5446

                        #12
                        La fakers ml +165....
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                        • YouHave2outs
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-02-11
                          • 4448

                          #13
                          wantitall, start a thread and track your record
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                          • Pauulzcappin
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-23-10
                            • 20295

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                            Both are bad. Brand out explains it though. Lakers should be +200 at least on the road against just about any team. A team like Philly they should probably be +225 making Philly about -250. Thats at least -6. One could say given Lakers horrid road record +275 wouldnt be too much against a really good team. Thats around 6.5 or so. So ANY number on the Lakers at less thn +200 ML or I would say at best 5.5 is a 'bad' number to take.

                            But considering Lakers were only +5.5 against Miami it just shows how theyre completely and utterly over rated. People still betting them like is 2001 and they have Phil and Shaq still. So books have to keep putting up dumb lines on them.

                            Lakers have 14 wins, how many of those wins were 'impressive'? I would say none of them. Other than maybe beating up on a horrible Bobcats teams. Other than that every win they have gotten be it a 'good' win or just a win have been unimpressive and against the 'quality' teams could have really gone either way. They have yet to come close to a 'statement' game that says "we are still good and can dominate any team in the league if we want to". Far from it.

                            I'll give them a LITTLE credit for winning a couple games I didnt think they could but those wins were by no means in a manner that makes me think the Lakers are a legit team. So therefore against teams that are better than them, like Philly you have to think they will lose. Now when we get to Boston and NY that is a different sorry. Theyre probably on par with those two teams. Home game makes Celts and Knick favored, but LA might steal one of them. They may have even been a fav at Knicks if not for the back to back angle. Stil might end up that way if enough deluded people bet them.

                            In the long run this is going to be a good game to watch and then see what appenes at half time. Philly has owned teams in the 3rd quarter this year. If lakers have their typical 3rd quarter slump that quarter alone will be enough to have them get blown out.

                            A 3rd quarter with a score like 28-8 Philly wouldnt be that surprising.

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                            • wantitall4moi
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-17-10
                              • 3063

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                              Simple math is simple. What are the Laker on the road SU? What would their odds have to be to break even?

                              I'll answer it for you just in case you dont have access.

                              Lakers are 3-8 SU and 3-8 ATS, ironically (not really) the only games they have 'covered' they won SU.

                              So if you were betting Lakers at anything less than +267 youd be behind. Thats for all games. But one of those games they won on the road they were actually favored. -125 I believe. So betting Lakers ML for 100 per game you would actually be down around 460 bucks right now. More if you were laying the odds to win 100 the times they were favored on the road and lost.
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                              • wantitall4moi
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-17-10
                                • 3063

                                #16
                                well I dont have to worry about guys bumping this thread, more free money, thats like 10-2 betting against lakers this season. Not bad for someone who hasnt bet the NBA in a decade.
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                                • Speedy88
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-19-11
                                  • 11717

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                  well I dont have to worry about guys bumping this thread, more free money, thats like 10-2 betting against lakers this season. Not bad for someone who hasnt bet the NBA in a decade.
                                  I love fading LA on the road. Took Sixers -4.5 and Sixers -4 2H. That line 2H line begged for people to take LA
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                                  • face
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-31-11
                                    • 14740

                                    #18
                                    i took sixers -4 good job sixers!!
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                                    • PR9
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-30-11
                                      • 2813

                                      #19
                                      Fakeshow


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                                      • Speedy88
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-19-11
                                        • 11717

                                        #20
                                        Honestly thought us Sixers backers were going to get screwed when Iguodala missed those 2 FT's with just seconds left. Wasn't he the same guy who missed FT's at the end of the Orlando game which led to an ORL backdoor cover?
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                                        • migz
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-11-10
                                          • 1160

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Speedy88
                                          Honestly thought us Sixers backers were going to get screwed when Iguodala missed those 2 FT's with just seconds left. Wasn't he the same guy who missed FT's at the end of the Orlando game which led to an ORL backdoor cover?
                                          Yeah, he missed it also. LOL
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                                          • dlunc3
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 10-31-09
                                            • 9129

                                            #22
                                            iggy showed kobe who is boss... switched over to shut him down after kobe went off for 24 points in the first 20 minutes... 2 for 12 for 4 points and 4 turnovers the final 28
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                                            • wantitall4moi
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-17-10
                                              • 3063

                                              #23
                                              yeah I wasnt chirping with 2 missed free throws, but luckily kobe took the last shot and sealed it.
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