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  • KGambler
    SBR MVP
    • 07-09-09
    • 2404

    #1
    I don't get why people don't have Matchbook accounts
    Watching us wannabe Stanford bettors put up huge offers for VTech and not get filled is sickening. Meanwhile, Pinny line just moved from VTech +3.5 -104 to +3.5 -105. Who the **** is moving the Pinny line at +3.5 -104 when they can bet tens of thousands at better odds on MB?

    Get a ******* MB account.
  • xstud
    SBR MVP
    • 01-12-08
    • 1643

    #2
    its not that people don't have the accounts its that it is sooooo hard to get money on the site now.
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    • KGambler
      SBR MVP
      • 07-09-09
      • 2404

      #3
      They accept bank transfers. What better way is there to move large sums of money (outside of book to book xfers)?

      And for smaller bettors, they accept E c h e c k deposits. It's time consuming, but not at all hard to deposit there right now.

      But about 15K of offers of VT +3.5 from +103 to +100 just got wiped out on one shot.

      About an hour ago there was $99,999 showing for both -101 and -102, but I think they temporarily gave up as a bunch of 6K offers jumped in front of them. And that was when Pinny had -110! 5Dimes was -103 at the time, but you have to do that reduced juice betting 500 at a time.

      Edit: funny, when I write "E c h e c k" it gets automatically changed to "instant deposit" and then reads "instant deposit deposits"
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      • nosniboR11
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-02-08
        • 10042

        #4
        lol
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        • rm18
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-20-05
          • 22291

          #5
          I owe them fuk them will pay back if I make it
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          • Domer
            SBR MVP
            • 01-21-10
            • 1046

            #6
            this question occurs to me all the time, and the simple answer is that most gamblers are complete and total morons
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            • philswin
              SBR MVP
              • 04-18-07
              • 1279

              #7
              Unless your trying to complete a rollover for a bonus at another site - Matchbook is the place to be. I do a lot of book to book transfers to fund there
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              • maersksealand
                SBR MVP
                • 09-17-09
                • 1673

                #8
                they should explain better how it works...many people including me still don't know how that site is working...I'm sure is not hard but they are lacking in explaining how it works step by step

                maybe somebody here should make a 2 minutes video explaining what's the deal...instead making videos about tasting chocolate, beer or other dump shiat.
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                • jwbama23
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-17-10
                  • 2373

                  #9
                  what books will they do book to book transfers? I wanted to get set up not too long ago but couldnt figure out how
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                  • bettilimbroke999
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-04-08
                    • 13254

                    #10
                    Costs a fortune to get money in there (you have to pay your own ** fees which basically every other book pays for you), then they take a chunk of whatevers left after ** takes its bite and turn it into "commission credits" so you had 500 to deposit and now your down 50 bucks just off of "depositing fees" that you wouldnt have had anywhere else (hell youd prolly have gotten a deposit bonus at any other book) then they have almost no liquidity, offer no parlays, their live betting is deader than dead and of course they charge for withdrawals

                    Yea, matchbook is a great book
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                    • raiders72001
                      Senior Member
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 11077

                      #11
                      Not much liquidity. If you bet more than a nickel, Matchbook isn't your #1 book.
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                      • k13
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-16-10
                        • 18102

                        #12
                        Check out all the bets they have on nhl futures, nothing.

                        I doubt they have ********** or many deposit/withdrawal options.

                        I see a line of -103 on pinny for the tech game.

                        I don't know, maybe its good for live betting.
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                        • philswin
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-18-07
                          • 1279

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jwbama23
                          what books will they do book to book transfers? I wanted to get set up not too long ago but couldnt figure out how
                          I transfer from 5Dimes a lot. They also do Bookmaker and BetJamaica, maybe others
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                          • KGambler
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-09-09
                            • 2404

                            #14
                            Originally posted by raiders72001
                            Not much liquidity. If you bet more than a nickel, Matchbook isn't your #1 book.

                            For big games there is big liquidity. Want to bet 100K on a major bowl game at a line better than Pinny? No problem at all.

                            Same for NFL games.

                            For some sports, yeah, liquidity is garbage.
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                            • KGambler
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-09-09
                              • 2404

                              #15
                              Originally posted by philswin
                              I transfer from 5Dimes a lot. They also do Bookmaker and BetJamaica, maybe others
                              thegreek as well. They transfer with many reputable books.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                They lack volume on most sports

                                They lack quick deposits

                                They lack marketing skills
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                                • Fishhead
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-11-05
                                  • 40179

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by raiders72001
                                  Not much liquidity. If you bet more than a nickel, Matchbook isn't your #1 book.

                                  It's worth in JUST for the halftimes.........


                                  Yesterday, I got down more than 9,000 on a few halftimes.................that's a little more than a NICKEL as you suggest.
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                                  • ProfaneReality
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 04-14-09
                                    • 7607

                                    #18
                                    one simple reason for me

                                    they are tied to the hip of wsex
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                                    • Fishhead
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-11-05
                                      • 40179

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by KGambler
                                      For big games there is big liquidity. Want to bet 100K on a major bowl game at a line better than Pinny? No problem at all.

                                      Same for NFL games.

                                      For some sports, yeah, liquidity is garbage.

                                      Those that bash MB don't play there or they are nothing but rank amatuers in the offshore world.


                                      SIMPLE FACT
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                                      • Fishhead
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-11-05
                                        • 40179

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ProfaneReality
                                        one simple reason for me

                                        they are tied to the hip of wsex

                                        LOL


                                        Bad reason not to play there, in fact, HORRIBLE reason.
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                                        • ProfaneReality
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 04-14-09
                                          • 7607

                                          #21
                                          what would be a good reason not to play there then?

                                          if its so great, mine is probably the only justifiable reason
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                                          • Fishhead
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-11-05
                                            • 40179

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ProfaneReality
                                            what would be a good reason not to play there then?

                                            if its so great, mine is probably the only justifiable reason

                                            There is no reason, EVERYONE on this forum should have money with MB.
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                                            • KGambler
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-09-09
                                              • 2404

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                              Costs a fortune to get money in there (you have to pay your own ** fees which basically every other book pays for you), then they take a chunk of whatevers left after ** takes its bite and turn it into "commission credits" so you had 500 to deposit and now your down 50 bucks just off of "depositing fees" that you wouldnt have had anywhere else (hell youd prolly have gotten a deposit bonus at any other book) then they have almost no liquidity, offer no parlays, their live betting is deader than dead and of course they charge for withdrawals

                                              Yea, matchbook is a great book
                                              I don't agree with any of this.

                                              1. I don't know about the ** deposit policies of any books because I bet more than $50 a game. But I do know that they refund any deposit fees with commission credits. So in the end you get the money back. Don't use ** or ** though. Assuming you have a bank account, use the electronic check option. OK, it takes at least a week to get credited, but for some bizarre reason they give you $45 in commission credits to cover any possible fees. My bank charged nothing for those electronic checks. Unfortunately, they have been lowering the daily limit for electronic checks. I guess they got scammed. It is $900 now.

                                              2. They have very poor liquidity for certain sports (NCAAB, NHL, etc.) but great liquidity for others (NFL, MLB, etc.) The liquidity for the bowl games is awesome. If you want to bet $25K on the game total, you can.

                                              I consider Matchbook to be a terribly run book, but using an exchange is just so damn superior to using a book that I just don't get the hate and misinformation that gets spread about them here. If you bet NFL, MLB, NBA or NCAAF full game spreads or totals, then Matchbook is a must out.

                                              3. As for bonuses, you don't want bonuses, you want access to their lines. You think you need a bonus for it to be a good idea to sign up with Pinnacle? MB lines are even better. if you bet any kind of volume, you are much better off with discount lines than a bonus. You save much more money in the long run.
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                                              • ProfaneReality
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 04-14-09
                                                • 7607

                                                #24
                                                well i dont trust wsex, and ive always been baffled how matchbook pays on time but wsex cant
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                                                • KGambler
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-09-09
                                                  • 2404

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  They lack volume on most sports

                                                  They lack quick deposits

                                                  They lack marketing skills

                                                  All basically true.

                                                  They do have good volume on most of the major US sports though.

                                                  And if you have funds available from other books, then book to book transfers are very quick. Otherwise, you better be patient because the electronic check and bank transfer options will take up to 2 weeks.

                                                  Horribly run book, but having access to an exchange is just a must.
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                                                  • Fishhead
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-11-05
                                                    • 40179

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by KGambler
                                                    All basically true.

                                                    They do have good volume on most of the major US sports though.

                                                    And if you have funds available from other books, then book to book transfers are very quick. Otherwise, you better be patient because the electronic check and bank transfer options will take up to 2 weeks.

                                                    Horribly run book, but having access to an exchange is just a must.

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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Penn National Race Course in the fukkin Hills of Penn had approx 20,000 bet on last race of card tonight and in the UK it is approx 2:00AM

                                                      Name the book? Betfair
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                                                      • KGambler
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-09-09
                                                        • 2404

                                                        #28
                                                        You want to get a last second bet in on VTech?

                                                        Well while Pinny had VTech +3.5 -111, here's the offers I saw available on Matchbook...

                                                        VTech +3.5 -103 $4,577
                                                        -104 $31,169
                                                        -105 $11,759
                                                        -106 $7,066

                                                        Yeah, no liquidity, none at all!
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                                                        • KGambler
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-09-09
                                                          • 2404

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          Penn National Race Course in the fukkin Hills of Penn had approx 20,000 bet on last race of card tonight and in the UK it is approx 2:00AM

                                                          Name the book? Betfair
                                                          It's too bad they don't allow US accounts.

                                                          Even with them being dirty cheats I would have to have an account there. Exchanges are the future - they are just so much better for the punters.

                                                          Matchbook should be huge. The problem is that their management is totally inept.
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                                                          • wrongturn
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-06-06
                                                            • 2228

                                                            #30
                                                            Because if juice does not matter for winning bets
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                                                            • sharpcat
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 12-19-09
                                                              • 4516

                                                              #31
                                                              Matchbook is nice to have but it is not all that great.

                                                              1) Hard to get down any more than $200 unless you are betting 1 hour before game time which takes your edge away.
                                                              2) Low liquidity on smaller sports.
                                                              3) Great for arb players but the lack of derivatives like parlays, props, and teasers takes away a lot of good wagering opportunities for sharp players.

                                                              I like matchbook for many reasons but I can see why there is such a lack of interest from recreational players and I have many outs that I prefer over matchbook.
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                                                              • Fishhead
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 08-11-05
                                                                • 40179

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by kgambler
                                                                you want to get a last second bet in on vtech?

                                                                Well while pinny had vtech +3.5 -111, here's the offers i saw available on matchbook...

                                                                Vtech +3.5 -103 $4,577
                                                                -104 $31,169
                                                                -105 $11,759
                                                                -106 $7,066

                                                                yeah, no liquidity, none at all!
                                                                some will never get it!

                                                                folks, you really need to get in matchbook
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                                                                • k13
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-16-10
                                                                  • 18102

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I guess its a good option for everyone in the US.

                                                                  Otherwise, there's way too many options out there.
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                                                                  • KGambler
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-09-09
                                                                    • 2404

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                                    Matchbook is nice to have but it is not all that great.

                                                                    1) Hard to get down any more than $200 unless you are betting 1 hour before game time which takes your edge away.
                                                                    Where do you guys get this shit? How am I betting thousands on NFL games, bowl games, MLB games? Do you guys constantly make rip off offers and wonder why you can't get filled? If Pinny has it -105/-105, then I will ask for -101 (offering up +101). It's easy to get filled there for many thousands on NFL, bowl games, even regular season MLB games. Are you guys just parroting someone else or do you actually play there and make real offers?

                                                                    Two hundred dollars??? What a JOKE. If you want to pay the same juice you pay thegreek or bookmaker, you can bet 200K NO PROBLEM on any NFL game. LOL.

                                                                    2) Low liquidity on smaller sports.
                                                                    So you don't bet NFL, NBA, MLB... No one is asking you to close all of your other accounts. You can still make bets on other sites.

                                                                    3) Great for arb players but the lack of derivatives like parlays, props, and teasers takes away a lot of good wagering opportunities for sharp players.
                                                                    Parlays? Sharp players? Huh? The lack of parlays is a godsend to the typical clueless sports gambler. If you want to place your +EV teaser, derivative, prop and parlay bets, do it at a different book. Why can't you have multiple outs? MB is THE OUT for US gamblers wanting to make straight bets on certain major sports.
                                                                    Last edited by KGambler; 01-03-11, 09:16 PM.
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                                                                    • bettilimbroke999
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 02-04-08
                                                                      • 13254

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by KGambler
                                                                      I don't agree with any of this.

                                                                      1. I don't know about the ** deposit policies of any books because I bet more than $50 a game. But I do know that they refund any deposit fees with commission credits. So in the end you get the money back. Don't use ** or ** though. Assuming you have a bank account, use the electronic check option. OK, it takes at least a week to get credited, but for some bizarre reason they give you $45 in commission credits to cover any possible fees. My bank charged nothing for those electronic checks. Unfortunately, they have been lowering the daily limit for electronic checks. I guess they got scammed. It is $900 now.

                                                                      2. They have very poor liquidity for certain sports (NCAAB, NHL, etc.) but great liquidity for others (NFL, MLB, etc.) The liquidity for the bowl games is awesome. If you want to bet $25K on the game total, you can.

                                                                      I consider Matchbook to be a terribly run book, but using an exchange is just so damn superior to using a book that I just don't get the hate and misinformation that gets spread about them here. If you bet NFL, MLB, NBA or NCAAF full game spreads or totals, then Matchbook is a must out.

                                                                      3. As for bonuses, you don't want bonuses, you want access to their lines. You think you need a bonus for it to be a good idea to sign up with Pinnacle? MB lines are even better. if you bet any kind of volume, you are much better off with discount lines than a bonus. You save much more money in the long run.

                                                                      You have made a terrible argument FOR matchbook but a great argument AGAINST matchbook. You managed to remind me of a huge problem I forgot bc I havent dealt with them in so long, this book is run terribly, their customer service is ******* horrible.

                                                                      Now I will address your other arguments in order, #1 You argue for these electronic checks which are a huge ******* hassle and max is 900 and you have to wait a ******* week for it to show up. Dude does that not show you why they have no liquidity? I mean then you say they have no liquidity for NCAAB but they have liquidity for bowl games (but bowls only have 1 week left so why would I deposit if its not going to show up til after the bowls are over? So I can load up for no liquidity NCAAB?) Plus who in the world wants to wait a week to bet, when most bettors including myself (non-pros) want to bet they want to bet NOW, they dont plan a week+ ahead, hell most lines dont come out til a day or so in advance. Also no normal bettors bet on MLB, MLB season is like the end of the world for normal gamblers and wouldnt improve the liquidity now anyway, also you really have to be a extreme degenerate gambler to bet on MLB but if you are then you're in luck bc Matchbook somehow always has incredibly great liquidity on MLB, its like the Twilight Zone at Matchbook, their liquidity suddenly triples during the MLB season, just when no one wants to bet, why this happens? I have no ******* idea. Maybe Pete Rose has an account at Matchbook.
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