Just saw Romney on the news (re: online gambling)

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  • McBa1n
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    • 01-02-06
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    #1
    Just saw Romney on the news (re: online gambling)
    Yay, caucus day here in NV for Republicans today. Was watching the news talking about the caucus and saw that Romney is 'against' online gambling.
    Newt is obviously against online gambling since he's being carried by Sheldon Adelson, another HUGE enemy of online gambling.

    So, who wants to vote for a Republican now? I dunno, I like voting for my interest, and both parties have f'd me, between (D) Eric Holder and the DOJ and that (R) prick Bill Frist.
    Seems like there's momentum here with legislation being prepared in the event online gambling becomes legal. The most talk is coming from the (D) camp in regards to getting it regulated and legalized and the (R) camp being very anti.

    Just throwing that out there, now lets talk about how Obama is a socialist GO! WTB a party that represents the punters FFS.
  • stuntin909
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-05-10
    • 933

    #2
    just saying what they wanna here. like the space comment in florida, they're just appealing to nevada because they know if online gambling is legalized nevadas economy goes down the drain.
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    • SBR Lou
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      • 08-02-07
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      #3
      Originally posted by stuntin909
      just saying what they wanna here. like the space comment in florida, they're just appealing to nevada because they know if online gambling is legalized nevadas economy goes down the drain.
      This guy gets it.
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      • itchypickle
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-05-09
        • 21452

        #4
        Stuntin is spot on. This isn't an idealogical battle...it's a business decision.....why do you think Harry Reid, the top Dem in the Senate....keeps it illegal as well - Nevada connections who do not want it.

        Take 2 minutes of your time and google the vote record which set the law in place a few years back.....all prominent Dems and Republicans voted to ban it guys.....and Holder has been proactive to enforce it.....so we really only had Barney Frank as an ally in this and he is retiring so that he can marry his partner and play hide the sausage in peace.....it will be up to someone else to pick up where he left off and still will not get even a shot at a vote until late next year at the earliest.
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        • muldoon
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          • 01-04-10
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          #5
          Originally posted by itchypickle
          Take 2 minutes of your time and google the vote record which set the law in place a few years back.....all prominent Dems and Republicans voted to ban it guys.
          If you're referring to the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act, it was attached to a security/anti-terrorism bill (Safe Ports) in an election year. Political suicide for any "at risk" politician to vote against anything to do with security just a few years post 911.
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          • King Mayan
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            • 09-22-10
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            #6
            ahhhhh the excuses....
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            • d2bets
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              • 08-10-05
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              #7
              I can't believe no one has chimed in yet with....RON PAUL.
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              • MendozaLine
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                • 01-11-10
                • 4088

                #8
                Pretty sure mormons find gambling to be evil.
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                • cwbuff44
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                  • 01-27-12
                  • 179

                  #9
                  Originally posted by d2bets
                  I can't believe no one has chimed in yet with....RON PAUL.
                  This! He's got my vote. Don't know why people act like he doesnt exist. Best choice by far. Especially if people like us want the freedom to do what we do.
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                  • crustyme
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                    • 09-29-10
                    • 16896

                    #10
                    neocons believe sports-betting & poker are immoral...... but horse racing, slots and craps are good wholesome family fun.

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                    • ttwarrior1
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                      • 06-23-09
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                      #11
                      do u all know nothing? nevada wants online gaming now
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                      • JohnGalt2341
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-31-09
                        • 9138

                        #12
                        Originally posted by crustyme
                        neocons believe sports-betting & poker are immoral...... but horse racing, slots and craps are good wholesome family fun.
                        And don't forget about the Lottery which keeps $50 of every $100 it takes in. Can you imagine if a Sportsbook kept 50% of every dollar bet? Nobody would play there. And yet virtually all of these Politicians consider the Lottery a good thing... and Sportsbooks evil.

                        This is what needs to be explained to the common man as well as most Politicians. Imagine you are at a Family Reunion and there is going to be a Raffle. There are 100 tickets sold at $10 a piece. You can have the Lottery be in charge of running your Raffle and after they collect $1000 there will be one prize of $500. OR, you can have a Sportsbook be in charge of running your Raffle and after they collect $1000 there will be one prize of $955. Now you tell me... who is crooked.... the Lottery or the Sportsbooks?
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                        • itchypickle
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                          • 11-05-09
                          • 21452

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                          do u all know nothing? nevada wants online gaming now
                          Wynn and other casino others who depend on you entering the brick and mortar casinos would disagree.
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                          • itchypickle
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-05-09
                            • 21452

                            #14
                            Originally posted by muldoon
                            If you're referring to the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act, it was attached to a security/anti-terrorism bill (Safe Ports) in an election year. Political suicide for any "at risk" politician to vote against anything to do with security just a few years post 911.

                            Yes we are all aware of this..but if it was something you were truly against....it could have been easily undone when the party in question had the White House, House and Senate....would have taken a week at most....not to mention the recent proactive enforcement of the legislations under this DOJ.

                            Again, I'm not talking one side or the other...BOTH sides are responsible. Lip service is one thing but action or lack thereof is the reality.
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                            • MoneyLineDawg
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                              • 01-01-09
                              • 13253

                              #15
                              Same old bullshit......when's someone gunna step up and fukkin give the people of the US what we want-freedom

                              Ron Paul the only one so far who isn't a sellout but I guess freedom for all is too much to handle for some people
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                              • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                • 01-02-12
                                • 19734

                                #16
                                Originally posted by itchypickle
                                Wynn and other casino others who depend on you entering the brick and mortar casinos would disagree.
                                is that why wynn and others will enter the igaming market when legislation passes? sheldon adelson who's funding newt gingrich on the other hand thinks it'll ruin his business so he vehemently opposes it. ironically, most of his profits come from macau, not vegas.
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                                • YouMama
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                                  • 01-04-12
                                  • 727

                                  #17
                                  I would Imagine the brick and mortat guys in vegas would be all for online gambling ... it provides more competition yes, but most people go to vegas for other things then gambling, only people that go there to gamble are big time high rollers ... and if online gaming does come through, I see some sort of loss limit involved with it anyways ...

                                  Vegas would benifit from online gaming, I can see all the joint partnerships now... you just won 10k online, heres a free wknd stay at the closest Harrahs, come blow it all !!!
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                                  • itchypickle
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                                    • 11-05-09
                                    • 21452

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                    is that why wynn and others will enter the igaming market when legislation passes? sheldon adelson who's funding newt gingrich on the other hand thinks it'll ruin his business so he vehemently opposes it. ironically, most of his profits come from macau, not vegas.
                                    If they are smart they will jump onboard any venture possible to make the $$ that is on the table. Of course they will take part in it if it's made legal because they have the resources and experience and contacts to do so. I'm simply saying if I have the option to offer an array of products and services to not only routine gamblers, but the vast amount of tourists with disposable income who may come to only play slots but also drink in my bars and pay for my concerts and other rooms etc.....vs simply offering them a way to play a few dollars in their homes.....I'm going for the tourists pockets.
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                                    • MonkeyF0cker
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                                      • 06-12-07
                                      • 12144

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stuntin909
                                      just saying what they wanna here. like the space comment in florida, they're just appealing to nevada because they know if online gambling is legalized nevadas economy goes down the drain.
                                      Most people in Nevada and most casinos want online gambling. Do you understand how much the online poker boom FILLED the poker rooms in the casinos here?

                                      Not to mention that most casinos are already highly recognized and respected brands that would attract a huge revenue stream if they were able to provide online gaming themselves.
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                                      • stuntin909
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                                        • 08-05-10
                                        • 933

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                        Most people in Nevada and most casinos want online gambling. Do you understand how much the online poker boom FILLED the poker rooms in the casinos here?

                                        Not to mention that most casinos are already highly recognized and respected brands that would attract a huge revenue stream if they were able to provide online gaming themselves.
                                        If governments did what the people "want" them to do this country wouldn't be in the form it is right now. Doesn't matter who wants it, if it doesn't make $en$e to the people running the show (politicians) it won't happen.
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                                        • alling
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                                          • 05-13-10
                                          • 1405

                                          #21
                                          One more time. Eric Holder the democratic head of the department of justice under a democratic president got rid of all the major poker rooms and some sportsbooks in the US by using a sting operation. Duh.
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                                          • MonkeyF0cker
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                                            • 06-12-07
                                            • 12144

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by alling
                                            One more time. Eric Holder the democratic head of the department of justice under a democratic president got rid of all the major poker rooms and some sportsbooks in the US by using a sting operation. Duh.
                                            ONCE AGAIN. Neither the President nor the Attorney General get to selectively enforce laws on the books. The Bush administration finalized the UIGEA in the last days of its Presidency which REQUIRES the DOJ to enforce the law.

                                            It's this INCOMPETENCE that leads to people ALLOWING these laws to exist.

                                            BLAME THE APPROPRIATE PARTY, RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                            • MonkeyF0cker
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                                              • 06-12-07
                                              • 12144

                                              #23
                                              Keep blaming the wrong people. And keep voting for the idiots that enacted the law.

                                              THAT WILL SOLVE IT!!!

                                              Fukkin moron.
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                                              • alling
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                                                • 05-13-10
                                                • 1405

                                                #24
                                                There's a law requiring the Feds to setup a sting operation using a fake processor to bust online gambling sites? Why didn't the previous administration enforce said laws? What a moron. One issue that both parties agree on is anti gambling. The democrats because it hurts the poor, the republicans because they are holier then thou. To be clear there's only one party that gamblers should support. Its called the Libertarian party. Clearly the current democratic administration does not support online gambling and clearly they are more determined to stop online gambling then the previous administration. Keep letting said current administration **** you in the ass in then maybe there wont be anymore online gambling whatsoever in the US you stupid dumbass. Class dismissed.
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                                                • Scorpion
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                                                  • 09-04-05
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by McBa1n
                                                  Yay, caucus day here in NV for Republicans today. Was watching the news talking about the caucus and saw that Romney is 'against' online gambling.
                                                  Newt is obviously against online gambling since he's being carried by Sheldon Adelson, another HUGE enemy of online gambling..

                                                  ron paul is not against online gambling
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                                                  • Inkwell77
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                                                    • 02-03-11
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by alling
                                                    There's a law requiring the Feds to setup a sting operation using a fake processor to bust online gambling sites? Why didn't the previous administration enforce said laws? What a moron. One issue that both parties agree on is anti gambling. The democrats because it hurts the poor, the republicans because they are holier then thou. To be clear there's only one party that gamblers should support. Its called the Libertarian party. Clearly the current democratic administration does not support online gambling and clearly they are more determined to stop online gambling then the previous administration. Keep letting said current administration **** you in the ass in then maybe there wont be anymore online gambling whatsoever in the US you stupid dumbass. Class dismissed.

                                                    Did you fail to read the post right before yours?
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                                                    • Tseay
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 10-29-10
                                                      • 176

                                                      #27
                                                      Just being a democrat might put you square in the looser category all by itslef. No US state that has gambling wants legalized online gambling. Hell Nevada doesent want any state to have any gambling of any kind. Offshore books and casinos dont want the US in the online gambling arena either. SO who wants it? Us, maybe, but not all of us. Spend you tax dik off liberal democrats, hell yes. Another flat screen TV for their I-dont-want-to-be-employed-while-obama-gives-me-free-shiit liberal constituancy.
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                                                      • BigdaddyQH
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                                                        • 07-13-09
                                                        • 19530

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stuntin909
                                                        just saying what they wanna here. like the space comment in florida, they're just appealing to nevada because they know if online gambling is legalized nevadas economy goes down the drain.

                                                        Exactly. This is an election year. Do not believe anything you hear about on line gaming. It will come next year, because the nation will need the revenue.
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                                                        • MonkeyF0cker
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 06-12-07
                                                          • 12144

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by alling
                                                          There's a law requiring the Feds to setup a sting operation using a fake processor to bust online gambling sites? Why didn't the previous administration enforce said laws? What a moron. One issue that both parties agree on is anti gambling. The democrats because it hurts the poor, the republicans because they are holier then thou. To be clear there's only one party that gamblers should support. Its called the Libertarian party. Clearly the current democratic administration does not support online gambling and clearly they are more determined to stop online gambling then the previous administration. Keep letting said current administration **** you in the ass in then maybe there wont be anymore online gambling whatsoever in the US you stupid dumbass. Class dismissed.
                                                          What part about the Bush administration finalizing the UIGEA in the last days of its term do you fail to comprehend, genius?
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
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                                                            #30
                                                            Nevada connections very strong that is why you will never see sports betting legal anywhere but Nevada
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                                                            • MUHerd37
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                                                              • 10-23-09
                                                              • 12816

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by crustyme
                                                              neocons believe sports-betting & poker are immoral...... but horse racing, slots and craps are good wholesome family fun.
                                                              Ur boy Obama is the one who cracked the whip on internet gambling.
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                                                              • MonkeyF0cker
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                                                                • 06-12-07
                                                                • 12144

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by MUHerd37
                                                                Ur boy Obama is the one who cracked the whip on internet gambling.
                                                                Can you fukking people not read? Jesus Christ.

                                                                No wonder this country is fukked. You morons can't even blame the right mother fukking people for a simple law.

                                                                Blinders on, dumbfukks.
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                                                                • mathdotcom
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                                                                  • 03-24-08
                                                                  • 11689

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Monkey is right but I think guys are getting at the point that Obama is implicitly supporting the law by not reversing it

                                                                  It'll never be reversed though because no one wants to champion the rights of gamblers
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                                                                  • MUHerd37
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                                                                    • 10-23-09
                                                                    • 12816

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                                    Can you fukking people not read? Jesus Christ.

                                                                    No wonder this country is fukked. You morons can't even blame the right mother fukking people for a simple law.

                                                                    Blinders on, dumbfukks.
                                                                    Ur post made no sense. As I stated, Obama is the one who clamped down on Internet sports betting. The bill passed under Bush but wasn't enforced until Obama was in office.
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                                                                    • Shaudius
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                                                                      • 09-21-10
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      The Nevada Gaming Commission approved online poker within the state 2.5 months ago. DC has also passed a similar measure allowing online poker within its borders. Now this doesn't do anything for interstate gambling(poker or otherwise) but how can the lot of you not know this?
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