Obama loses in 2012 :: 323 to 215 electoral votes

[Hurls]

I dont see how any of these guys beat obama, the republican message doesn't resonate w indep. thinking people...
only people that dont like obama because of his race or who only vote on social/religious issues...
the one liners like "Job Creators" -create where??? china and india...

"food stamp president" -during the 2nd G. Depression in american history??? -brought on by 2 wars for corp. interests and rampant wallstreet fraud? Im guessing, FDR was the Soup and Bread Line president???...

"lower taxes across the board" even though taxes 4 the last 10 yrs have been the lowest they have been in decades???...

"unlike Obama, we actually think work is good"??? -even though it’s becoming harder and harder to gain wealth through hard work. In the past 10 years, wages for jobs involving hard work have been stagnant, while shuffling money and securities around has become incredibly profitable. Rather than working hard, a much more effective way to become wealthy these days is by defrauding people out of their homes and retirement funds they gained through years of "hard work"

these one-liners dont work anymore, people are smarter... the only way the republicans win is if they nomiate someone different like Ron Paul, or the religous voting and racists republicans all come out and vote in mass numbers and alot of indep. stay home because they see no diff. in the 2 parties, and come to the conclusion nothing will ever change, until the whole thing comes crashing down one day.

Newt G. trying to paint himself as a "washington outsider, against the establishment", is a joke, that will only work on the same people that sara palin can con like she does.

I hate to be the one who has to break this to you "you mama" but their are many more black racists that only voted and will vote for Obama because he is black. So for you to bring race into this only proves that you are the real racist here. Everytime someone goes against Obama when all else fails they are racist. No one buys that shit anymore. So look hard at the Dems and see who is really being manipulated here, just because most of the ignorant white racists get more media time than the ignorant black racists doesn't mean they don't exist. Open your eyes you might learn something.

[YouMama]

I didnt say there are no black racists, I see black racists everyday and have been victim to black racists in management positions in the past... just because a black person votes for the first ever nominated black presidential canidate in history, doesnt make them a racist, it means they identified w him... just as just because a white person doesnt vote for a black president, doesnt mean they are racist

Im the farethest from a racist there can be, not at all PC, but far from racist...

if you dont think alot of the attacks on this president are "racial" you are completly ignorant of everything, or in massive denial... and the fact that you get so offended by saying that the first black president in history is subject to racism, tells me the root of your true feelings

I was just pointing out the spin from the GOP debates and giving the reason, none of them have a chance... the only one that would beat Obama, they call crazy, and dismiss him like hes a child...

Maybe you should stop drinking the talk radio kool-aide, and objectivly look at is going on... Ron Paul is the GOP's only chance vs. Obama, but they would rather fool themselves into thinking Romeny/Santorium can pull of some massive upset, cuz they cant force themselves to vote for Paul, because of social issues... they preech personal freedom and smaller gov't all day long, but only as long as the church can tell people not to do naughty things in the bedroom, gamble, or smoke dat shlt.

[Sam Odom]

let's stop fooling around about the - race - issue

The MSM would've spin it as a sign of racism is still alive in america if 97% of self identified 'whites' had voted for mccain yet it is 'understandable' when 97% of blacks voted for obama. -- on the same note -- if one is proud to be white he is a racist : if one is proud to be black he is admirable - JUST THE WAY IT IS

[YouMama]

The reason white people look weird about being "pround to be white" is because white people are not and never really have been a group to their own ... white people are usually more proud to be of irish decent, spanish, Italian, etc... American Black people were all thrown into a group as slaves and lost whatever seperate identities they had, they became Black Americans... if you go to africa, it not really like that. Even in america, you dont see black cubans going around claiming to be black, they claim to be latino... Thats why the whole white pride thing seems strange to most people. Culturally its abnormal

[Shafted69]

“I'll tell you what, 10,000 bucks? Ten thousand dollar bet?” mitt will lose! anyone?

[Sam Odom]

mitt loses?

you mean tonight

[Shafted69]

thought so

[Sam Odom]

thought so

stop being childish if someone wanted to bet 10k why in the fuk would they do it with an anon poster at ev $ when Books are giving mitt +130

[YouMama]

[C-Gold]

I don't think you can conclude Obama will lose all those states because he comes in below 50% in opinion polls. Bush wasn't super popular in 2004 but he won reelection against John Kerry. I don't think the winner is determined at this point. What to look at.

1) What is the unemployment rate in 8 months. The "real" unemployment rate not the fake headline number
2) What is the price of gas
3) Where is the S&P 500
4) Did the fed unleash QE3 affecting the above variables
5) More gridlock in Washington? Will Harry Reid ever pass a budget in the Senate or will he continue to sit on his hands?
6) Will we bomb Iran
7) Will we continue to bail out our banks and will we bail out Europe when Greece defaults for real?
8) Debates

Virginia, North Carolina, Nevada will all go Republican ( lots of mormons in Nevada - not just degens).
Lots of retired Jews in Florida will help that state go republican again.

It will come down to Ohio and Colorado. It might depend on who Romney picks as a running mate. Colorado has a lot of independets/libertarians. Ohio has a few big cities and then corn fields. Maybe if Romney picks Mitch Daniels ( indiana) he wins Ohio?

[INVEGA MAN]

I won some big money on Obama last election and expect to do the same this election.

[RibbedTrojan]

Obama loses no matter what. Back to your holes demoRats

[Hurls]

The reason white people look weird about being "pround to be white" is because white people are not and never really have been a group to their own ... white people are usually more proud to be of irish decent, spanish, Italian, etc... American Black people were all thrown into a group as slaves and lost whatever seperate identities they had, they became Black Americans... if you go to africa, it not really like that. Even in america, you dont see black cubans going around claiming to be black, they claim to be latino... Thats why the whole white pride thing seems strange to most people. Culturally its abnormal

My point exactly whenever race is brought up it somehow comes down to slavery, Myself and every relative of mine that I have ever known had nothing to do with slavery. I live in a very culturally diverse city and my closest friends are black so I see myself as not racist. The only thing that I was trying to point out was that its to bad that a lot of debates and such come down to race instead of the issues, I am doing that right now so am proving that also. I just hope that this election wont come down to that again. Also I am proud to be white and that has no bearing on how I feel about other races. On another note in most political races doesnt the challenger usually get about +130, +140?

[Sam Odom]

Obama hurt himself a little with this forced condom thingy - so much so the WH is backing off

Remember: only takes 4/100 to switch their vote this yr and Obama loses

[Andy117]

Obama loses no matter what. Back to your holes demoRats

Please go away again.

[Sam Odom]

Obama hurt himself a little with this forced condom thingy - so much so the WH is backing off

Remember: only takes 4/100 to switch their vote this yr and Obama loses

Thursday Feb 9

The White House struggled Wednesday to contain the growing uproar over its birth-control mandate, with Democrats peeling off one by one in what has become an increasingly divisive election-year controversy.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/209553-white-house-struggles-to-contain-uproar-over-birth-control-mandate

[Shafted69]

LMFAO! Sam is responding to himself !!!!


2-9-2012 Approval Ratings went up even higher after a few days of relentless attacks from the Catlicks.

Catholic Students overwhelmingly support Obama on contraceptives and have told the Bishops to "back off"

[BigdaddyQH]

You have to look at the numbers, and these numbers do not tell the whole story. Baring some unforseen event that causes a "landslide" win for a candidate, Obama wins these States: California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, New York, Mass, Conn, and Delaware for 147 sure electoral votes. The Republican Nominee wins these States: Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Kentucky and Indiana for 154 sure electoral votes. Everything else is still up forgrabs, to a certain extent. This process has a long ways to go.

[EmpireMaker]

mitt loses?

you mean tonight

Mitt loses in November.
The poll measures job approval not who people are going to vote for.

[Sam Odom]

Catholic Students

STUDENTS

Of course kids love Obama - They are rebellious and stupid

but as BigdaddyQH wrote, "This process has a long ways to go."

[Shafted69]

After almost a week of relentless religious fanatic attacks on Obama, you would think his approval would tank !


We're in the year 2012 & contraceptives are still contraversial in the GOP bubble. These people still think its the 1950's

[Sam Odom]

those religious fuddies (Jews, Catholics, Muslims and Xtians) are secretive... They have their networks of getting info and planning their efforts

[Sam Odom]

We're in the year 2012 & contraceptives are still contraversial in the GOP bubble.

It is the democrat congress critters jumping ship on Obama on this issue making the WH back off - YOU should read 1st then open mouth

[Shafted69]

oh you mean the fake democrats who call themselves blue dogs? lololololololol

[Sam Odom]

Shafted69 , you are a simpleton and most likely trolling

every time you are shot down you shift the debate

[golfrulz]

Shafted69 , you are a simpleton and most likely trolling

every time you are shot down you shift the debate

hey sammy boy...u related to andywad and bigdaddycrybaby? just asking

[Sam Odom]

no , i'm your daddy, ask your mom

[BigdaddyQH]

Shafted69 , you are a simpleton and most likely trolling

every time you are shot down you shift the debate

He is a flat out liar. He does not have $10,000 Monopoly Dollars to wager, much less real money.

[Hotdiggity11]

An overwhelming amount of Catholics support and even use contraceptives. The only ones who are going out against it are conservative Catholics and the people directly linked to the Catholic Church [AKA, people that will vote GOP no matter what].

Many Western Catholics have voiced significant disagreement with the Church's stance on contraception.<sup id="cite_ref-26" class="reference">[27]</sup> The Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops issued what many interpreted as a dissenting document, the Winnipeg Statement. In it, the bishops recognized that many Catholics found it "either extremely difficult or even impossible to make their own all elements of this doctrine" (that of Humanae Vitae).<sup id="cite_ref-Winnipeg_27-0" class="reference">[28]</sup> Additionally, they reasserted the Catholic principle of primacy of conscience,<sup id="cite_ref-Winnipeg_27-1" class="reference">[28]</sup> a principle that they said should be properly interpreted, since they insisted that "a Catholic Christian is not free to form his conscience without consideration of the teaching of the magisterium, in the particular instance exercised by the Holy Father in an encyclical letter".<sup id="cite_ref-28" class="reference">[29]</sup> Theologians such as Charles Curran also criticized the stance of Humanae Vitae on artificial birth control.<sup id="cite_ref-29" class="reference">[30]</sup>
Catholics for a Free Choice claimed in 1998 that 96% of U.S. Catholic women had used contraceptives at some point in their lives and that 72% of Catholics believed that one could be a good Catholic without obeying the Church's teaching on birth control.<sup id="cite_ref-cath_choice_30-0" class="reference">[31]</sup> According to a nationwide poll of 2,242 U.S. adults surveyed online in September 2005 by Harris Interactive, 90% of Catholics supported the use of birth control/contraceptives.<sup id="cite_ref-harris_poll_31-0" class="reference">[32] - Wikipedia
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[YouMama]

what do expect from people who call the morning after pill the "abortion pill" ... I guess im aborting babies everytime I jack off in in a kleenex as well

[Shafted69]

Shafted69 , you are a simpleton and most likely trolling

repubs use name calling in order to discredit an argument they can't counter or/and

when they're presented with facts.

[rickbo528]

Just ask Slick Willie!!!!!!!!!!

[stevenash]

[Waterstpub87]

An overwhelming amount of Catholics support and even use contraceptives. The only ones who are going out against it are conservative Catholics and the people directly linked to the Catholic Church [AKA, people that will vote GOP no matter what]. Many Western Catholics have voiced significant disagreement with the Church's stance on contraception.<sup id="cite_ref-26" class="reference">[27]</sup> The Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops issued what many interpreted as a dissenting document, the Winnipeg Statement. In it, the bishops recognized that many Catholics found it "either extremely difficult or even impossible to make their own all elements of this doctrine" (that of Humanae Vitae).<sup id="cite_ref-Winnipeg_27-0" class="reference">[28]</sup> Additionally, they reasserted the Catholic principle of primacy of conscience,<sup id="cite_ref-Winnipeg_27-1" class="reference">[28]</sup> a principle that they said should be properly interpreted, since they insisted that "a Catholic Christian is not free to form his conscience without consideration of the teaching of the magisterium, in the particular instance exercised by the Holy Father in an encyclical letter".<sup id="cite_ref-28" class="reference">[29]</sup> Theologians such as Charles Curran also criticized the stance of Humanae Vitae on artificial birth control.<sup id="cite_ref-29" class="reference">[30]</sup> Catholics for a Free Choice claimed in 1998 that 96% of U.S. Catholic women had used contraceptives at some point in their lives and that 72% of Catholics believed that one could be a good Catholic without obeying the Church's teaching on birth control.<sup id="cite_ref-cath_choice_30-0" class="reference">[31]</sup> According to a nationwide poll of 2,242 U.S. adults surveyed online in September 2005 by Harris Interactive, 90% of Catholics supported the use of birth control/contraceptives.<sup id="cite_ref-harris_poll_31-0" class="reference">[32] - Wikipedia </sup>

There is a big difference between individuals using contraception, and forcing religious group to violate their prinipals. Catholic business have the right to not be forced to violate their beliefs. Whether you agree with those beliefs or not, you should support the ability of people to stay true to their beliefs. It just as bad as legislating for no health care plans to supply birth control because it offends Catholics.

[Hotdiggity11]

There is a big difference between individuals using contraception, and forcing religious group to violate their prinipals. Catholic business have the right to not be forced to violate their beliefs. Whether you agree with those beliefs or not, you should support the ability of people to stay true to their beliefs. It just as bad as legislating for no health care plans to supply birth control because it offends Catholics.

Find one poll from a known polling agency that shows that Catholics in America are against the contraception mandate.


No one's beliefs are violated, no one is FORCED to use contraception, it's just an option available to the individual.