JJ, Shari, 4lengths who do you like in Murray- Joker?

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  • Winner_13
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    • 01-04-10
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    #1
    JJ, Shari, 4lengths who do you like in Murray- Joker?
    I fell asleep last night and it seems I missed out as I would have live bet nadal all over...easy to say that now.

    Wont make the same mistake tonight.

    DOJO-234
    Murray +218

    I lean murray as of now


    JJ put your tennis expertise to the test you were wrong with your lean yest.
  • FourLengthsClear
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    • 12-29-10
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    #2
    I have a bet on Djoker to win the tournament outright but couldn't advise betting him against Murray at those odds.
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    • jjgold
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      • 07-20-05
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      #3
      Well lets take a poke with Murray, he has a much better shot than nadal does

      Murray basically coasted must of the tourney

      My Boy Lendl best coach in business and he is in Murray"s corner

      Lets see who Shari likes....have no idea where she is
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      • FourLengthsClear
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        • 12-29-10
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        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Well lets take a poke with Murray, he has a much better shot than nadal does

        Murray basically coasted must of the tourney

        My Boy Lendl best coach in business and he is in Murray"s corner

        Lets see who Shari likes....have no idea where she is

        Sure but he has had an exceptionally easy draw.
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        • Winner_13
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          #5
          nice JJ we may be on same side here
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          • jjgold
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            • 07-20-05
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            #6
            4 Lenghts your the sharpest tennis guy here

            Shari is excellent but I rated you ahead of her slightly as your a more experienced trader

            She is good with the stats (surfaces, matchups, coaches, etc)
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            • Winner_13
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              #7
              I will post my tickets here cant wait
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              • FourLengthsClear
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                • 12-29-10
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                #8
                Originally posted by jjgold
                4 Lenghts your the sharpest tennis guy here

                Shari is excellent but I rated you ahead of her slightly as your a more experienced trader

                She is good with the stats (surfaces, matchups, coaches, etc)
                Shari/EP36/Glitch are all way more knowledgeable on tennis than I am.

                The sport itself is not that hard to model/handicap/price, it is the intangibles like motivation, niglling injuries and dare I say corruption that make it a bit of a minefield outside the grandslams.
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                • RubberKettle
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                  • 12-28-09
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                  #9
                  Leggo Djoker
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                  • Jrod124
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                    • 10-31-09
                    • 5622

                    #10
                    Agreed I am riding with 4LC Guy knows this game

                    Go Nole
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                    • Mikail
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                      • 07-19-09
                      • 21689

                      #11
                      Murray & the over for me.
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                      • jjgold
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                        • 07-20-05
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                        Shari/EP36/Glitch are all way more knowledgeable on tennis than I am.

                        The sport itself is not that hard to model/handicap/price, it is the intangibles like motivation, niglling injuries and dare I say corruption that make it a bit of a minefield outside the grandslams.

                        4Lenghts she at times bets her favorite so called "Cute Guys"

                        Nadal can be -175 against Joker Sat Night and she will still bet him even though line is way off and she will bring 200 stats to the table proving the line is right so she justifies her bet

                        I do agree she is a top capper here..GregM good too, Yisman, a few others
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                        • FourLengthsClear
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                          • 12-29-10
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          4Lenghts she at times bets her favorite so called "Cute Guys"

                          Nadal can be -175 against Joker Sat Night and she will still bet him even though line is way off and she will bring 200 stats to the table proving the line is right so she justifies her bet

                          I do agree she is a top capper here..GregM good too, Yisman, a few others
                          She is gonna hammer you for that but we all saw that Ferrer thread yesterday.
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                          • jjgold
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                            • 07-20-05
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                            #14
                            Nah because I am right and she knows it
                            One night I had a winner and she refused to listen to me because she was in love with the opponent
                            Went crazy one me and did back up her play with some stats in which it had to take her 4 hrs to find
                            Anyway my pick won

                            I think she passed tonight on match odds, lets see who she picks
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                            • ttwarrior1
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                              • 06-23-09
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                              #15
                              murray would have to play his best, hewitt won a set so murray can also

                              Novak needs to be off some for murray to win. Gonna be interesting to see what lendl see's in his game. I like murray more at wimbledon.

                              Novak could get hurt , you never know
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                              • Bbr
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                                • 08-17-10
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                                #16
                                Murray 3-2
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                                • Winner_13
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                                  • 01-04-10
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                                  #17
                                  What are the odds at betfair and the limits?

                                  I don't have an account and I cant see them for some reason.
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                                  • FourLengthsClear
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                                    • 12-29-10
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Winner_13
                                    What are the odds at betfair and the limits?

                                    I don't have an account and I cant see them for some reason.
                                    Djoker -232
                                    Murray +227

                                    It's an exchange so no limits but there is USD 75,000 currently available to be matched and USD 40,000 currently available on Murray at those odds.
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                                    • Winner_13
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                                      #19
                                      Is that TO WIN 75K ON JOKER OR RISK?

                                      Thanks 4lengths your always helpful

                                      how much is commision?

                                      whos got the btr odds pinny or betfair after commission costs trying to fugue this out

                                      pinny has 17 cent line betfair 5 that's ridiculous
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                                      • FourLengthsClear
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                                        • 12-29-10
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Winner_13
                                        Is that TO WIN 75K ON JOKER OR RISK?

                                        Thanks 4lengths your always helpful

                                        how much is commision?

                                        whos got the btr odds pinny or betfair after commission costs trying to fugue this out

                                        pinny has 17 cent line betfair 5 that's ridiculous
                                        Those are risk amounts but as I say I wouldn't worry about that, you could easily get 3 or 4 times that much down.

                                        Pinny currently has the best odds for Murray (+330).

                                        Betfair odds are still Slightly better for Djokovic even if you account for full (new account) commission of 5% of net winnings.
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                                        • shari91
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                                          • 02-23-10
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          Nah because I am right and she knows it
                                          One night I had a winner and she refused to listen to me because she was in love with the opponent
                                          Went crazy one me and did back up her play with some stats in which it had to take her 4 hrs to find
                                          Anyway my pick won

                                          I think she passed tonight on match odds, lets see who she picks


                                          Djokovic
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                                          • yisman
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                                            • 09-01-08
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                                            #22
                                            4, I think you mean +230. :P

                                            Tough match.

                                            I think Murray does have a shot and will push Novak some, but I'm backing Novak anyway in 4 sets.
                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                            [/quote]

                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                            • FourLengthsClear
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by yisman
                                              4, I think you mean +230. :P

                                              Tough match.

                                              I think Murray does have a shot and will push Novak some, but I'm backing Novak anyway in 4 sets.
                                              Indeed I do.
                                              US odds should be banned!
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                                              • BigSpoon
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                                                #24
                                                Is P. Diddy going to be in the Djokovic box tonight?

                                                Nole in 4 sets is my guess.
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                                                • zsr
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                                                  #25
                                                  Tennis gurus, just curious, how did joker turn into the best in the world out of nowhere last year how does that happen?
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                                                  • shari91
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                                                    • 02-23-10
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by zsr
                                                    Tennis gurus, just curious, how did joker turn into the best in the world out of nowhere last year how does that happen?
                                                    I'm not a guru but I've watched this guy for long enough to think I have a bit of a clue and it's down to him doing exactly what Murray has failed to do: Grow up and get mentally strong. The skills have always been there for both of them but their ability to get distracted and over emotional on the court always cost them in big matches. His backhand is amazing, he's gone gluten free and he's making less errors but most of it is just confidence now and the knowledge that he can still win a match even if he's in a bit of trouble. If you don't have the mental toughness, you won't make it against the likes of Nadal no matter how great your shots are because he has an amazing ability to mess with his opponent's head.
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                                                    • HenryHill
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                                                      • 09-24-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by shari91

                                                      I'm not a guru but I've watched this guy for long enough to think I have a bit of a clue and it's down to him doing exactly what Murray has failed to do: Grow up and get mentally strong. The skills have always been there for both of them but their ability to get distracted and over emotional on the court always cost them in big matches. His backhand is amazing, he's gone gluten free and he's making less errors but most of it is just confidence now and the knowledge that he can still win a match even if he's in a bit of trouble. If you don't have the mental toughness, you won't make it against the likes of Nadal no matter how great your shots are because he has an amazing ability to mess with his opponent's head.
                                                      Whatever, Chazz. What the hell makes u such a tennis aficionado?
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                                                      • Mikail
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                                                        • 07-19-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        does anyone remember that moment in the Ferrer/Djokovic match when Djokovic appeared sluggish? I imagine that has a lot to do with the odds on this match. I admit Djokovic at this price is enticing but I'm gonna take a chance with Murray for the upset.
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                                                        • face
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                                                          • 01-31-11
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                                                          #29
                                                          djoker on special diet is why he is so fast. he is the best.
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                                                          • shari91
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                                                            • 02-23-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by HenryHill

                                                            Whatever, Chazz. What the hell makes u such a tennis aficionado?
                                                            Absolutely nothing hence why I said "I'm not a guru". Nice to see your continued trolling in the sports subforums though.

                                                            I'm also on the under 39.5 although I jumped on this a bit late so I'm hoping that doesn't come back to bite me in the butt.
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                                                            • beg154860
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                                                              • 03-26-11
                                                              • 964

                                                              #31
                                                              Which of these three props do you like the best. Guessing odds or evens on total games played, Djokavic 3-0 or yes or no to a tiebreak in the match. I don't know shit about tennis but im guessing if a tiebreak occurs or not is basically a 50/50 toss up or am I wrong and are they common in the major tourneys?
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                                                              • Ace_of_Spades
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                                                                • 10-14-09
                                                                • 13518

                                                                #32
                                                                Is Murray going to show up? Or am i thinking of the Murray who doesn't show up in GS Finals.
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                                                                • STAY STRONG
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Joker is a lock.
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                                                                  • jjgold
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                                                                    • 07-20-05
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Shari nailed it again
                                                                    Murray just feels before they walk on court he cannot win

                                                                    Nadal also has a confidence issue vs Joker.
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                                                                    • ChalkyDog
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                                                                      • 10-02-11
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by shari91
                                                                      I'm not a guru but I've watched this guy for long enough to think I have a bit of a clue and it's down to him doing exactly what Murray has failed to do: Grow up and get mentally strong. The skills have always been there for both of them but their ability to get distracted and over emotional on the court always cost them in big matches. His backhand is amazing, he's gone gluten free and he's making less errors but most of it is just confidence now and the knowledge that he can still win a match even if he's in a bit of trouble. If you don't have the mental toughness, you won't make it against the likes of Nadal no matter how great your shots are because he has an amazing ability to mess with his opponent's head.
                                                                      Not sure if that is a tennis term, or you know his diet. Either way -
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