have opening and closing lines on the games. Public betting %'s?
BigDofBA
SBR Posting Legend
09-30-09
19313
#2
It's hard to know if a game is rigged or not. Sometimes you just get unlucky.
I think it does happen. It's already been proven. That being said, if you lose because someone hits a three pointer at the buzzer, it wasn't rigged. If the game was rigged, it would never come down to that.
I typically look at the officiating, flow of the game, and how it effects the spread.
I don't think Lebron is worried about covering 6 so Jo blow wins a few thousand. I do think refs could accepy bribes though.
Sometimes games that are on pace to go way over go under and vice versa. Refs could definitely control the pace.
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YouHave2outs
SBR MVP
07-02-11
4448
#3
Originally posted by biggie12
Do you keep info of the games? have opening and closing lines on the games. Public betting %'s?
Originally posted by BigDofBA
It's hard to know if a game is rigged or not. Sometimes you just get unlucky. I think it does happen. It's already been proven. That being said, if you lose because someone hits a three pointer at the buzzer, it wasn't rigged. If the game was rigged, it would never come down to that. I typically look at the officiating, flow of the game, and how it effects the spread. I don't think Lebron is worried about covering 6 so Jo blow wins a few thousand. I do think refs could accepy bribes though. Sometimes games that are on pace to go way over go under and vice versa. Refs could definitely control the pace.
i think the answer to biggies questions are an obvious no. those loonies can't win their 'sure bet', and it must be because of the last minute rig job. nice thread biggie. i would like to see the data on the fake show game from the rig enthusiasts.
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Djstucky
SBR MVP
02-27-11
2993
#4
Every bet I lose looks rigged...I can pick apart something or several things throughout the course of a game, match, etc that looks rigged although I don't believe it truly is...
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Carseller4
SBR Posting Legend
10-22-09
19627
#5
Coaches jobs on the line.
Players fighting to keep jobs, playing time, looking forward to next contracts.
Refs? Whole different story here...but even then I'm sure their performance is being constantly reviewed.
So overall...no...don't think NBA is rigged.
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HoulihansTX
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-12-09
30566
#6
Matter if Dick Bavetta is reffing or not.
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Sport_Fish
SBR MVP
12-06-10
4079
#7
I think ppl believe its rigged more often than it really is. It would be naive to say its 100% fair, but its very unlikely that rig or fixing play any part in most games.
So bottom line, nobody can ever say for certain if any game is rigged. You can't have that mindset when sportsbetting - instead just trust ur picks and even if u think it was fixed, nothing you can do about it so move on and hope your next game isnt or works in your favour =)
after looking at orlando the other night ,,,i think so
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Vortexx00
SBR MVP
06-18-09
1392
#10
Can't wait to see the story book ending for tonight's Clippers game..
Clippers win by 2 or 3 with a worthless three point shot by O.J. Mayo at the buzzer...
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biggie12
SBR Posting Legend
12-30-05
13793
#11
thread going in the wrong direction i want stats!
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moshi
SBR Wise Guy
12-18-11
801
#12
Its not really about whether the games are rigged rather than about how Vegas sets and manipulates the lines. You're not going to be right 100% of the time and they're not either, but at the end of the day, even if something is 50-50 they still make profit.
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PREMOSIX
SBR Sharp
01-17-12
477
#13
toronto beating utah on the road last nite was rigged
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M.W.
SBR MVP
09-07-08
1668
#14
Originally posted by biggie12
thread going in the wrong direction i want stats!
How are stats relevant?
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warriorfan707
SBR Posting Legend
03-29-08
13698
#15
Originally posted by Vortexx00
Can't wait to see the story book ending for tonight's Clippers game..
Clippers win by 2 or 3 with a worthless three point shot by O.J. Mayo at the buzzer...
And that means it was rigged of course. Because the truth is OJ Majo can hit a 3 whenever he wants.
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Masu485
SBR Hall of Famer
08-14-08
7700
#16
Like I've said before. Never underestimate mans greed. If it possible to rig it. It will be rigged. I'm a large conspiracy guy so I believe this is bigger than just refs and the league. I have theories but Will ever reveal them cause
I'm too scared.
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whoatommy
SBR Wise Guy
09-29-08
863
#17
Is there an adjective that combines both naive and ignorant?
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Vortexx00
SBR MVP
06-18-09
1392
#18
Originally posted by warriorfan707
And that means it was rigged of course. Because the truth is OJ Majo can hit a 3 whenever he wants.
Of course not....but its not going to stop him or anyone from trying to fuk Clipper backers...
You think players don't know the spreads and totals for their games...
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warriorfan707
SBR Posting Legend
03-29-08
13698
#19
I seriously doubt if OJ Mayo hits a 3 at the buzzer with the Grizz down 6, he didn't try to make it to fuk "Clippers Backers"
What should he do? Not shoot the ball at all? Why would he do that? You are supposed to play until the very end. Once in a while you will see guys hold the ball at the end of the game, but thats if they are at the other end of the court.
If they have the basket within sights of course they are going to shoot.
Man, people are so obsessed with gambling/spreads/ they have lost touch with reality.
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Told You So!
SBR Wise Guy
10-06-09
656
#20
Many NBA players are gamblers and have been in trouble the last few years for bounced checks at casinos or unpaid markers.
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Vortexx00
SBR MVP
06-18-09
1392
#21
Originally posted by warriorfan707
I seriously doubt if OJ Mayo hits a 3 at the buzzer with the Grizz down 6, he didn't try to make it to fuk "Clippers Backers"
What should he do? Not shoot the ball at all? Why would he do that? You are supposed to play until the very end. Once in a while you will see guys hold the ball at the end of the game, but thats if they are at the other end of the court.
If they have the basket within sights of course they are going to shoot.
Man, people are so obsessed with gambling/spreads/ they have lost touch with reality.
This coming from a dude with 13k post on a sports betting forum...
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YOUSENKO
SBR High Roller
07-25-11
220
#22
Major team sports with large betting markets up to millions are rigged since the millenium where internet betting start to be prominent. People won't believe until they touch insiders that cashes 90% of the time and made big money in their life.
Less than 0.1% of the players are up 7 digits.
A+ books earn hundreds of millions per year. Its not possible to be consistent if heavy betting on squares isn't punished. Bet amount is more important than no. of wagers, those sites feed u useless information. You need insiders of bet volume from the book to know where to hide your money.
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Smoke
SBR Aristocracy
10-09-09
48111
#23
Yes
NBA is rigged
Do not bet unless you know fixed side
Refs are greedy
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warriorfan707
SBR Posting Legend
03-29-08
13698
#24
Originally posted by Vortexx00
This coming from a dude with 13k post on a sports betting forum...
You dont hear me crying about rigged games because a dude hit a 3 do you?
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DOMINATER
SBR MVP
12-10-09
3698
#25
no doubt they are rigged,sometimes the players and sometimes the refs. In college I witnessed the fix with players they would shave the points not losing the game but not covering the big spreads. I won a large sum of money in the 70's the super star of a college faked an injury the fix was in before the game . It made the player 25,000 dollars the guy who was the middle man got 30,000 and the boss was said to have made over 1 million dollars. I was told later he made 3 million, over 2 million was the payment from Vegas. That team shaved at least 10 games that 3 years that player played . he was the center,and at the time they had the best undersized guard in the country. I have seen pro baseball fixed, horse racing for the whole season fixed , dogs every day.And I would place my right hand on the bible,and swear to tell the whole truth ,and nothing but the whole truth so help me.
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YOUSENKO
SBR High Roller
07-25-11
220
#26
How do people explain Orlando Magic only score 56 points against celtics? Today they already scored over this by halftime. The real match is today. Its obvious from public mood the money wasn't heavy on Orlando today. More like 60:40.
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Vortexx00
SBR MVP
06-18-09
1392
#27
Originally posted by warriorfan707
You dont hear me crying about rigged games because a dude hit a 3 do you?
Love this forum...so much drama..people always turn something into something else...
Who is crying rigged because of 3.. I simply made a prediction for the Clippers game...the NBA where amazing happens..
Good luck with your Clippers bet tonight..
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warriorfan707
SBR Posting Legend
03-29-08
13698
#28
[QUOTE=Vortexx00;13456697people always turn something into something else...
Good luck with your Clippers bet tonight..[/QUOTE]
I didnt bet the Clippers
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k13
SBR Posting Legend
07-16-10
18104
#29
Probably a good idea to bet LIVE since its fixed.
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BigDofBA
SBR Posting Legend
09-30-09
19313
#30
This game wasn't fixed guys. A NBA game has never been fixed.
Orlando scored 60 in the first half and 25 in the second half. It was a coincidence.
Boston was down 27 and won straight up. It happens. Actually i happens every other day in the NBA.
The game was on pace to go way over and then Orlando scores 8 points in the final quarter and the under cashes by 1 point....Just a coincidence...
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Big Bear
SBR Aristocracy
11-01-11
43253
#31
that magic vs celtics game looked rigged
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biggie12
SBR Posting Legend
12-30-05
13793
#32
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BigDofBA
SBR Posting Legend
09-30-09
19313
#33
Originally posted by Big Bear
that magic vs celtics game looked rigged
A NBA ref has already been found guilty of fixing games and we see weird crazy endings like this every night yet people still don't think it goes on.
I don't think every game is rigged, however, I don't know how some people can continue to watch these things happen and not question it.
One team is dominating for three quarters and then they only score 8 points? This causes the under to hit by 1 point......ok. Just a coincidence like the Lakers ending last night and the Warriors ending the night before.
Again, I can't prove any of these games are fixed, but you have to at least be suspicious.
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Big Bear
SBR Aristocracy
11-01-11
43253
#34
its not just the NBA that is rigged though , i saw a MLB game last year that was rigged
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Big Bear
SBR Aristocracy
11-01-11
43253
#35
MLB game was the Angels blew a 5 run lead to the White Sox and the Angels pitcher threw a ball 40 feet over the catchers head on am intentional walk