Why is it assumed peyton manning will be a great coach/coordinator?

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  • seaborneq
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    • 09-08-06
    • 22556

    #1
    Why is it assumed peyton manning will be a great coach/coordinator?
    Joe montana was the saddest analyst I ever saw after being one of the best player I had ever seen. Great players are not necessarily good coaches, gm's, coordinators, etc.
  • WvGambler
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    • 04-19-10
    • 11618

    #2
    Analyst and coach are pretty different.

    There is no question that Peyton understands the game better than most. He is pretty much an offensive coordinator on the field already....he's almost proven his ability to coach in the way he prepares. That doesn't guarantee he'd be a coaching success, but he's got a great headstart.
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    • MadTiger
      SBR MVP
      • 04-19-09
      • 2724

      #3
      Someone who has proven they know their profession at an expert level (Pro Bowl, MVP, etc.) usually is given the benefit of the doubt as far as being able to translate that into a managerial role.
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      • k13
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        • 07-16-10
        • 18104

        #4
        Kind of how Gretzky was an awesome coach....

        You are as good as your team/luck.
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        • Dutchie
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          • 12-15-11
          • 722

          #5
          he does have the charisma though. speaking of montana, anyone remember how bad he was on Saturday Night live back in the day?
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          • ShawNee922
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            • 04-22-08
            • 469

            #6
            Montana is an 'invert' who just happened to be a decent QB placed in a position that made it hard to fail ...
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            • seaborneq
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              • 09-08-06
              • 22556

              #7
              Originally posted by MadTiger
              Someone who has proven they know their profession at an expert level (Pro Bowl, MVP, etc.) usually is given the benefit of the doubt as far as being able to translate that into a managerial role.

              Deion Sanders, Charles Barkley, Emmitt Smith, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Mike Singletary, Jerry Rice, Marcus Allen, Dan Marino, Joe Montana to name a few. How many of them were talked about as coaches or coordinators before they retired and how many of them proved it? None. What makes Manning different? He is no better than ANY of these players in their primes, yet I don't hear any talk or any action to give them the benefit of the doubt. I would go as far as to say, Peyton would suck as a college coach or pro coach, because coaching is more than playing well in your day, oh so much more.
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              • iifold
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                • 04-25-10
                • 11111

                #8
                Fukk Peyton...

                I'd want A.Peterson!!!
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                • marcoloco
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-05-10
                  • 3986

                  #9
                  Originally posted by WvGambler
                  Analyst and coach are pretty different.

                  There is no question that Peyton understands the game better than most. He is pretty much an offensive coordinator on the field already....he's almost proven his ability to coach in the way he prepares. That doesn't guarantee he'd be a coaching success, but he's got a great headstart.
                  spot on
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                  • seaborneq
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-08-06
                    • 22556

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WvGambler
                    Analyst and coach are pretty different.

                    There is no question that Peyton understands the game better than most. He is pretty much an offensive coordinator on the field already....he's almost proven his ability to coach in the way he prepares. That doesn't guarantee he'd be a coaching success, but he's got a great headstart.
                    Bill Belichick understands the game better than most also. He couldn't play a lick. Peyton's start would be a whole hell of a lot better than Belichick's but I will bet all that I have that he won't be a better coach than Belichick.
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                    • bobby heenan
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                      • 03-20-09
                      • 4120

                      #11
                      what would make anyone think that a guy like manning would want to put in the hours/schedule of a coach or coordinator....its absurd imo to even think about the possibility.....hell work on tv cause hell want to be around the game...maybe even take a job in managing personnel......but hed never work as a fulltime coach/coordinator
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                      • seaborneq
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                        • 09-08-06
                        • 22556

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bobby heenan
                        what would make anyone think that a guy like manning would want to put in the hours/schedule of a coach or coordinator....its absurd imo to even think about the possibility.....hell work on tv cause hell want to be around the game...maybe even take a job in managing personnel......but hed never work as a fulltime coach/coordinator
                        Agreed. Despite his understanding of the game. Could be the smartest, does not make him a good coach.
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                        • bobby heenan
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                          • 03-20-09
                          • 4120

                          #13
                          Originally posted by seaborneq
                          Agreed. Despite his understanding of the game. Could be the smartest, does not make him a good coach.
                          ya...the amount of work isnt worth the amount of money for a guy like that

                          you see some baseball guys who were stars in the 80s/early 90s like sandberg tryna manage.....but that guy never made mega money...

                          mike schmidt was doing the managing thing for a minute then he literally said "i can make more money doing autograph shows".....beats toiling in the minors until youve proven you can be a successful big league manager
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                          • DiggityDaggityDo
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-30-08
                            • 81450

                            #14
                            Maybe just a QB coach.
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                            • EDDIE MONEY LINE
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-24-10
                              • 6298

                              #15
                              Peyton already is a good coach. So the question is already answered.
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                              • RyanLeafOfBets
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                                • 01-03-10
                                • 8164

                                #16
                                Two reasons I think he'll be successful.

                                1: Dude has a high IQ (same with Eli)
                                2: He knows the game, knows how to read coverage, blitzes, knows when to audible, etc.
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                                • seaborneq
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                                  • 09-08-06
                                  • 22556

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by RyanLeafOfBets
                                  Two reasons I think he'll be successful.

                                  1: Dude has a high IQ (same with Eli)
                                  2: He knows the game, knows how to read coverage, blitzes, knows when to audible, etc.
                                  Cam cameron, bruce arians, and jason garrett have those same qualities, are they successful?
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                                  • YouMama
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 01-04-12
                                    • 727

                                    #18
                                    He's pretty much been the coordintator/QB for the last 8 yrs ... look what happened this yr
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                                    • Naz18
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-10-09
                                      • 4277

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bobby heenan
                                      ya...the amount of work isnt worth the amount of money for a guy like that you see some baseball guys who were stars in the 80s/early 90s like sandberg tryna manage.....but that guy never made mega money... mike schmidt was doing the managing thing for a minute then he literally said "i can make more money doing autograph shows".....beats toiling in the minors until youve proven you can be a successful big league manager
                                      But managing baseball is way easier then coaching in the NFL...
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                                      • WvGambler
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                                        • 04-19-10
                                        • 11618

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by seaborneq

                                        Bill Belichick understands the game better than most also. He couldn't play a lick. Peyton's start would be a whole hell of a lot better than Belichick's but I will bet all that I have that he won't be a better coach than Belichick.
                                        What does this have to do with Manning being a good coach. Belichick is better than most coaches, but that doesn't make the rest of them failures. I'm confused here maybe.
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                                        • Jonah
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                                          • 10-21-09
                                          • 4042

                                          #21
                                          I want to kick you in the balls for even asking this question...And Manning would be an amazing analyst as well.
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                                          • nyed1010
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                                            • 12-05-10
                                            • 1569

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by YouMama
                                            He's pretty much been the coordintator/QB for the last 8 yrs ... look what happened this yr
                                            Exactly. Tom Moore used to give Peyton 3 different plays on every single down and Peyton would pick one of the three plays based on his pre-snap reads. Announcers always exaggerate when they refer to a player as "another coach on the field", but Peyton was literally coach/player on the field.
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                                            • seaborneq
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                                              • 09-08-06
                                              • 22556

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Jonah
                                              I want to kick you in the balls for even asking this question...And Manning would be an amazing analyst as well.
                                              Come on so you can go back with a short leg. Come up for air from peyton's nuts.
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                                              • seaborneq
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                                                • 09-08-06
                                                • 22556

                                                #24
                                                [QUOTE=WvGambler;13437043]What does this have to do with Manning being a good coach. Belichick is better than most coaches, but that doesn't make the rest of them failures. I'm confused here

                                                Peyton's headstart doesn't mean shit.
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                                                • seaborneq
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                                                  • 09-08-06
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                                                  #25
                                                  Time to find out if Peyton can coach. Playing days are in the rearview mirror.
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                                                  • tony_come
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                                                    • 03-31-10
                                                    • 21695

                                                    #26
                                                    Refs came to play
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                                                    • jtoler
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                                                      • 12-17-13
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                                                      #27
                                                      How are you comparing being an analyst to being a coach.
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                                                      • jjgold
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                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        He is a good speaker and funny

                                                        He will be fine
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                                                        • BriGuy
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                                                          • 12-06-11
                                                          • 1556

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jtoler
                                                          How are you comparing being an analyst to being a coach.
                                                          He would be a great analyst in the regular season and then turn into a blithering idiot in the playoffs.
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