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  • 8ArIvd5
    SBR MVP
    • 04-24-10
    • 3175

    #1
    Who pays the juice?
    I hear a lot of bettors talk about losers paying juice.

    I always thought the winner pays the juice.

    What's the deal here?
  • Hawkeye2011
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-12-11
    • 840

    #2
    You pay the juice either way....if you win you only get paid $100 if you bet $110.....and if you lose you still lose $110
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    • 8ArIvd5
      SBR MVP
      • 04-24-10
      • 3175

      #3
      How can both pay the juice?
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Depends

        If I am lazy or on tilt I do not give a fuk and will bet any line available just to get the bet down
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        • Djstucky
          SBR MVP
          • 02-27-11
          • 2993

          #5
          You only pay the juice if you don't win the bet...pushes are just that (no juice paid) but risk vig for the privilege of making the bet each time you take -101 odds or greater...
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          • DrStale
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-07-08
            • 9692

            #6
            How does the winner pay the juice? The winner doesnt pay anything.
            Originally posted by Dark Horse
            If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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            • Hawkeye2011
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-12-11
              • 840

              #7
              Because either way you are betting $110....if you win you only win 100 (so 10 is juice) and if you lose you don't get anything. I guess technically the winner pays the juice, but really the book will get it either way
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              • Darkside Magick
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-28-10
                • 12638

                #8
                winners pay juice!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                • 8ArIvd5
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-24-10
                  • 3175

                  #9
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #10
                    Some math geeks have posted over the years how winners pay the juice

                    short version : losers risk 110 & lose 110 ; winners risk 110 get paid 100
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                    • RollPlayer
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-26-10
                      • 779

                      #11
                      Think about it this way, if the spread is right, there is a 50/50 chance of a bettor being on the right side. When you take the bet you bet $110 (or $105 or whatever depending on the line) but only get a chance to win $100. If it were fair, you'd be $100 to get $100. That $10 is "paid" when you take the bet, winning or losing is irrelevant.
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                      • Hawkeye2011
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 12-12-11
                        • 840

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                        Some math geeks have posted over the years how winners pay the juice

                        short version : losers risk 110 & lose 110 ; winners risk 110 get paid 100
                        Originally posted by RollPlayer
                        Think about it this way, if the spread is right, there is a 50/50 chance of a bettor being on the right side. When you take the bet you bet $110 (or $105 or whatever depending on the line) but only get a chance to win $100. If it were fair, you'd be $100 to get $100. That $10 is "paid" when you take the bet, winning or losing is irrelevant.
                        Exactly what I tried to say
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                        • 8ArIvd5
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-24-10
                          • 3175

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RollPlayer
                          Think about it this way, if the spread is right, there is a 50/50 chance of a bettor being on the right side. When you take the bet you bet $110 (or $105 or whatever depending on the line) but only get a chance to win $100. If it were fair, you'd be $100 to get $100. That $10 is "paid" when you take the bet, winning or losing is irrelevant.
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                          • 8ArIvd5
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-24-10
                            • 3175

                            #14
                            Why must you win more than 50% to come out ahead?
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                            • 8ArIvd5
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-24-10
                              • 3175

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DrStale
                              How does the winner pay the juice? The winner doesnt pay anything.
                              Me and friend bet 11 on a game. Winner gets 11, loser pays 11. Bookie got involved and charged 1. Where did the 1 come from?
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                              • Hawkeye2011
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 12-12-11
                                • 840

                                #16
                                Your missing the point....if you and your friend make a bet then one of you has to be the bookie....you can't have two people making a bet on a game AND have a bookie
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                                • 8ArIvd5
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-24-10
                                  • 3175

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Hawkeye2011
                                  Your missing the point....if you and your friend make a bet then one of you has to be the bookie....you can't have two people making a bet on a game AND have a bookie
                                  That's exactly what happens. When 2 people don't know a person to bet, they enlist a bookie to make the transaction happen. Winner pays a 'finders fee'.
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