If You Bet $20 Per Game Does Juice Really Matter??

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    If You Bet $20 Per Game Does Juice Really Matter??
    Buddy asked me..well had an argument and I told him it does matter no matter how much you bet the lower juice is better.
  • stuntin909
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-05-10
    • 933

    #2
    technically...yes

    realistically... no. losing pennies to the vig.
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    • 135steward
      SBR High Roller
      • 07-28-11
      • 171

      #3
      Of course it matters. Your buddy's an idiot.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Originally posted by 135steward
        Of course it matters. Your buddy's an idiot.
        I told him that and he said I am an asshole square
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        • mrmarket
          SBR MVP
          • 01-26-10
          • 4953

          #5
          make light of bet amount
          goad others to conclude they are losing minimal amounts even at 20 cent lines
          sign up squares to square books
          affiliate
          profit
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          • darkhat
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-18-10
            • 5722

            #6
            it obviously technically matters, but I'm sure he means like who gives a shit if the actual dollar amount itself is low.
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            • Dad
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-26-08
              • 23245

              #7
              Originally posted by jjgold
              Buddy asked me..well had an argument and I told him it does matter no matter how much you bet the lower juice is better.
              Gotta love pillow talk, right JJ?

              Look on the bright side though J... make up sex is always great!
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              • Dutchie
                Restricted User
                • 12-15-11
                • 722

                #8
                its all relative and percentage based. nothing changes. Unless you are betting over your head. But then you are dumb to begin with
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                • Deuce
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 01-12-08
                  • 29843

                  #9
                  Is there juice in winning?
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                  • Bcatswin
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-21-10
                    • 13931

                    #10
                    jj has buddies what kind of buddies
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Daddy how much do you bet??

                      If you make 200 bets per year and save 11 cents juice per bet how much is that??
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                      • Sam Odom
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-30-05
                        • 58063

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Deuce

                        Is there juice in winning?

                        If you win who gives a damn about juice - Only losers worry about vig
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                        • Dad
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-26-08
                          • 23245

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Daddy how much do you bet??

                          If you make 200 bets per year and save 11 cents juice per bet how much is that??
                          One unit per bet J.
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                          • 135steward
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 07-28-11
                            • 171

                            #14
                            WTF!!!

                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                            If you win who gives a damn about juice - Only losers worry about vig
                            So you win EVERY FUKKIN' BET?!
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                            • 135steward
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 07-28-11
                              • 171

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mrmarket
                              make light of bet amount
                              goad others to conclude they are losing minimal amounts even at 20 cent lines
                              sign up squares to square books
                              affiliate
                              profit
                              Yo're right, man. Why fight stupid? Some guy once said "no one goes broke underestimating intelligence." Or something like that. Maybe I'll start a website and invite some of these guys to stop by.
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                              • Sam Odom
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-30-05
                                • 58063

                                #16
                                Originally posted by 135steward

                                So you win EVERY FUKKIN' BET?!




                                tongue in cheek


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                                • mathdotcom
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-24-08
                                  • 11689

                                  #17
                                  jj why didnt you just tell him that there's no juice when you win
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                                  • SportsMushroom
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-28-10
                                    • 4177

                                    #18
                                    it matters because the higher the juice, the higher the break even point


                                    the whole 'only losers pay juice' crap only comes out of the mouth of dumbasses, when you lose, you lose the same amount no matter the juice, when you win, juice determines your return

                                    so the truth is that 'only winners pay juice' or better yet 'only winners pay low juice'


                                    and anyhow why would you settle for a lower price? you lose thousands of dollars by getting a bad price, if you get 10 cent worst odds on every bet, and bet 1,000 per bet, that means you lose 100 dollars on every wager, if you win 200 wagers during the year thats 20,000 you just gave away


                                    and if you are playing at a book with bad odds, its 100% certain that you are playing at a recreational book, which means you are not making sh it gambling
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                                    • TobiasFunke
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-12-09
                                      • 1999

                                      #19
                                      LOL $20 to some is the same as $100....so yes, it does matter to some people.
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                                      • vyomguy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-08-09
                                        • 5794

                                        #20
                                        juice is juice...regardless if you bet 10k or 10 dollars.
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                                        • LVHerbie
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-15-05
                                          • 6344

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold

                                          I told him that and he said I am an asshole square
                                          Sounds like you were both right then
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                                          • yisman
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-01-08
                                            • 75682

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            well had an argument and I told him it does matter no matter how much you bet the lower juice is better.
                                            jjgold, one of the great thinkers of his day.
                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                            [/quote]

                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                            • aggieshawn
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-24-07
                                              • 4378

                                              #23
                                              That is why I like NFL playoffs. Lots of people to find and wager against your picks. Milk them for the extra 0.5 -1 point and no juice on the bet. Just have to make sure you can find and kick the shyytt out of them later if they don't pay up.
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                                              • Kindred
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-09-08
                                                • 2901

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                Buddy asked me..well had an argument and I told him it does matter no matter how much you bet the lower juice is better.
                                                To a guy trying to turn a profit it would matter more when your bankroll only allows $20 bets..

                                                To the striaght gamblers just betting the home team or whatever probably go broke too fast for low juice to help much.
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                                                • dj_destroyer
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-28-10
                                                  • 3856

                                                  #25
                                                  At -110, you have to hit 53% to be profitable.
                                                  At -105, you have to hit 52% to be profitable.

                                                  Stakes do not matter.
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                                                  • The Kraken
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 12-25-11
                                                    • 28918

                                                    #26

                                                    Guys hitting 52% suck dick to pay rent. Guys hitting 53% party with chicks and get free blow.
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Thanks men

                                                      good stuff
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                                                      • ACoochy
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-19-09
                                                        • 13949

                                                        #28
                                                        $100 gambler at -110 playing 1 game per day will lose $3650 over 1 year to juice.

                                                        Think of the money you'd save by getting the +EV number.

                                                        If u wager at -110 then ur working for the books. The end
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                                                        • pimike
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-23-08
                                                          • 37140

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Bcatswin
                                                          jj has buddies what kind of buddies


                                                          Was thinking same thing!

                                                          JJ you aint got ANY friends bud! LOL
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                                                          • ThaWoj
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 03-09-10
                                                            • 6766

                                                            #30
                                                            who cares jj buried the whole forum today with daddys bobcats play.
                                                            only a few sharps on here took the knicks. they knew how to read into all the politics.

                                                            but anyways juice really makes more of a difference comparing short term and long term instead of low bet size/high bet size
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                                                            • warriorfan707
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-29-08
                                                              • 13698

                                                              #31
                                                              If you're betting a lot of games, then sure even at 20$ a pop juice matters.

                                                              The goal is always to make a profit, therefore by that rationale even if you were to risk 11 cents to win 10 then the juice matters.

                                                              From a financial standpoint it would be different for everyone. It would matter more to some than others.
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