NFL home teams now 6-0 ATS in playoffs

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  • rake922
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-23-07
    • 11692

    #1
    NFL home teams now 6-0 ATS in playoffs
    Cin @ Hou
    1st half - Hou
    2nd half - Hou
    game - Hou

    Det@NO
    1st half - Det
    2nd half - NO
    game - NO

    Atl@ NY
    1st half - NY
    2nd half- NY
    game - NY

    Pitt @ Den
    1st half -Den
    2nd half -Pitt
    game - Den

    NO @ SF
    1st half - SF
    2nd half - SF
    game - SF

    Den@NE
    1st half - NE
    2nd half - NE
    game - NE
  • rake922
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-23-07
    • 11692

    #2
    OVERS 5-1

    Cin @ Hou
    1st half - OVER
    2nd half - UNDER
    game - OVER

    Det@NO
    1st half - UNDER
    2nd half - OVER
    game - OVER

    Atl@ NY
    1st half - UNDER
    2nd half- UNDER
    game - UNDER

    Pitt @ Den
    1st half -OVER
    2nd half -OVER
    game - OVER

    NO @ SF
    1st half - OVER
    2nd half - OVER
    game - OVER

    Den@NE
    1st half - OVER
    2nd half - UNDER
    game - OVER
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    • john230
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-24-11
      • 721

      #3
      I think at least one of the 2 dogs today gets the cover against the spread.
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      • jetsjets1028
        SBR MVP
        • 02-10-10
        • 1234

        #4
        unbelievable how road teams cant win all sudden in nfl ncaa bball wow
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        • wantitall4moi
          SBR MVP
          • 04-17-10
          • 3063

          #5
          home teams are great ATS every year in the play offs. That has never been a secret. You could bet the home team on the blind and make money. Theyre over 70% since 2000 I think.

          Most people just dont pay attention or dont have very good memories.
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          • E in AZ
            SBR Hustler
            • 01-05-12
            • 68

            #6
            Originally posted by wantitall4moi
            home teams are great ATS every year in the play offs. That has never been a secret. You could bet the home team on the blind and make money. Theyre over 70% since 2000 I think.

            Most people just dont pay attention or dont have very good memories.
            No better way to put it. Go Ravens!
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            • FourLengthsClear
              SBR MVP
              • 12-29-10
              • 3808

              #7
              Originally posted by wantitall4moi
              home teams are great ATS every year in the play offs. That has never been a secret. You could bet the home team on the blind and make money. Theyre over 70% since 2000 I think.

              Most people just dont pay attention or dont have very good memories.
              It is around 61%. Home underdogs are over 70% but that is a very small sample.
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              • GatorTD
                SBR Sharp
                • 02-13-10
                • 453

                #8
                Texans need to break that trend.
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                • BigdaddyQH
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-13-09
                  • 19530

                  #9
                  It appears that the Home Team trend will continue. If it does, at least we get the two best regular season teams in the Superbowl.
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                  • Utah_Jay
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 12-01-11
                    • 258

                    #10
                    Originally posted by john230
                    I think at least one of the 2 dogs today gets the cover against the spread.
                    My money goes to the Giants here.
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                    • wantitall4moi
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-17-10
                      • 3063

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                      It is around 61%. Home underdogs are over 70% but that is a very small sample.

                      I was going off memory.

                      But sample size is irrelevant when it is every game played. You cant have more examples than there are games played.

                      It basically shows books over valued 'better' teams especially on the road.

                      Home teams in the NFL cover at a high enough rate so you could bet the board every week with the best number and show a profit at the season. This year home teams were 'only' 54.2% at 139-117 ATS.

                      This basically shows that results are not 50/50 or close to 50/50 as a whole and therefore shows variance or regression theory is a non issue.
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                      • FourLengthsClear
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-29-10
                        • 3808

                        #12
                        Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                        I was going off memory.

                        But sample size is irrelevant when it is every game played. You cant have more examples than there are games played.

                        It basically shows books over valued 'better' teams especially on the road.

                        Home teams in the NFL cover at a high enough rate so you could bet the board every week with the best number and show a profit at the season. This year home teams were 'only' 54.2% at 139-117 ATS.

                        This basically shows that results are not 50/50 or close to 50/50 as a whole and therefore shows variance or regression theory is a non issue.
                        Not this crap again.
                        If you get the best number the same is true of road teams.
                        How did home teams do last season year in the regular season (2010) against the closer? Or the year before?

                        Sample size is irrelevant?
                        At what point does it become irrelevant. If you have a sample size of two, is that enough? If not how about twenty? Get a clue.
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                        • rake922
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-23-07
                          • 11692

                          #13
                          Mark Sanchez has 4 road ATS wins , he played in AFC championship twice.... so 2 ATS wins in 2010, then 2 more in 2011
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                          • wantitall4moi
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-17-10
                            • 3063

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                            Not this crap again.
                            If you get the best number the same is true of road teams.
                            How did home teams do last season year in the regular season (2010) against the closer? Or the year before?

                            Sample size is irrelevant?
                            At what point does it become irrelevant. If you have a sample size of two, is that enough? If not how about twenty? Get a clue.
                            Its not MATH its sports. If home teams are habitually under estimated by the books then they have a built in edge. Use your head.

                            If I see 10 games where the home team wins SU and was a dog in 4 of them I say the books are dumb and dont know anything, it doesnt matter if it was 'only' 10 games. SINGLE games all add up over time. Trick is to be on those games before everyone else sees a pattern.

                            In the play offs it is even more apparent. Especially with teams that get home games due to winning a conference, like Denver was against pitt. Pit had a better record but Den still won. Spread was way too high in that game Den winning SU was just a bonus.

                            But no getting the best line on the other side wouldnt make it nearly as productive. Not enough to overcome the results.
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                            • paco
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-07-09
                              • 62873

                              #15
                              Packers lost outright
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                              • FourLengthsClear
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-29-10
                                • 3808

                                #16
                                Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                Its not MATH its sports. If home teams are habitually under estimated by the books then they have a built in edge. Use your head.

                                If I see 10 games where the home team wins SU and was a dog in 4 of them I say the books are dumb and dont know anything, it doesnt matter if it was 'only' 10 games. SINGLE games all add up over time. Trick is to be on those games before everyone else sees a pattern.

                                In the play offs it is even more apparent. Especially with teams that get home games due to winning a conference, like Denver was against pitt. Pit had a better record but Den still won. Spread was way too high in that game Den winning SU was just a bonus.

                                But no getting the best line on the other side wouldnt make it nearly as productive. Not enough to overcome the results.
                                But they are not. I asked how home teams performed ATS (closing line) in 2009 and 2010 and you ignored it. Why is that?

                                They issue of the play-offs over the last 10 years is a possible case of lines being driven too much by regular season form/stats but I repeat that a sample of 120 games is way too small to conclude that as a fact.
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                                • BallDontLie
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 04-28-11
                                  • 157

                                  #17
                                  did texans cover?
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                                  • UpInsmoke33
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 12-04-11
                                    • 139

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BallDontLie
                                    did texans cover?

                                    in most cases they did.
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                                    • wantitall4moi
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-17-10
                                      • 3063

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                      But they are not. I asked how home teams performed ATS (closing line) in 2009 and 2010 and you ignored it. Why is that?

                                      They issue of the play-offs over the last 10 years is a possible case of lines being driven too much by regular season form/stats but I repeat that a sample of 120 games is way too small to conclude that as a fact.
                                      I am sure you know or you wouldnt be asking.

                                      But in 2010 the SU winner got the money. Not a single dog "covered". Meaning no team lost and covered a spread. So spread had nothing to do with anything.

                                      Same thing with 2009 if the team won SU they covered the spread. Points were irrelevant.

                                      Same thing this year.

                                      It is that way for the most part, which is what I originally said. Teams that win SU get the covers. Just happens that more home teams win than road teams. Which also goes with something else I said if you like a dog you bet them on the ML.
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                                      • FourLengthsClear
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-29-10
                                        • 3808

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                        I am sure you know or you wouldnt be asking.

                                        But in 2010 the SU winner got the money. Not a single dog "covered". Meaning no team lost and covered a spread. So spread had nothing to do with anything.

                                        Same thing with 2009 if the team won SU they covered the spread. Points were irrelevant.

                                        Same thing this year.

                                        It is that way for the most part, which is what I originally said. Teams that win SU get the covers. Just happens that more home teams win than road teams. Which also goes with something else I said if you like a dog you bet them on the ML.
                                        I do know and road teams won 51.6% and 50.7% ATS in '09 and '10 respectively.

                                        You are moving the goalposts a bit but yes in the NFL the winner SU covers the spread 82-83% of the time.
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                                        • antifoil
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-11-09
                                          • 3993

                                          #21
                                          what percentage that 80 percent is dogs?
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                                          • rake922
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-23-07
                                            • 11692

                                            #22
                                            Hou@Bal
                                            1st half - Hou
                                            2nd half - Hou
                                            game - Hou

                                            Hou@Bal
                                            1st half - Over
                                            2nd half - Under
                                            Game - Under

                                            Nyg@GB
                                            1st half- Nyg
                                            2nd half - Nyg
                                            Game - Nyg

                                            Nyg@GB
                                            1st half- Over
                                            2nd half - Under
                                            Game - Over
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                                            • FourLengthsClear
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-29-10
                                              • 3808

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by antifoil
                                              what percentage that 80 percent is dogs?
                                              As a whole since 1990:

                                              33.4% of underdogs won SU and by definition also cover the spread.
                                              51.3% of underdogs covered the spread

                                              66.6% of favourites won SU
                                              48.7% of favourites covered the spread

                                              The contention that if you like the underdog, you should bet them SU doesn't hold up overall but it does better in recent years and would have been slightly profitable (based on closing lines) betting blind over a narrow spread range which I will keep to myself!
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                                              • Chi_archie
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-22-08
                                                • 63172

                                                #24
                                                good stuff Raker
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                                                • antifoil
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-11-09
                                                  • 3993

                                                  #25
                                                  yeah i mentioned that in another thread in think tank. i figured if you narrow it down to the smaller spreads, it is probably around 5 or less on the moneyline it would be profitable.

                                                  i didn't get any response so i figured i was on to something. that is how you tell if your idea is good in the think tank. there is no response calling you an idiot.

                                                  edit: i would guess the area would be profitable would be from 3 to 6.5
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                                                  • FourLengthsClear
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-29-10
                                                    • 3808

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by antifoil
                                                    yeah i mentioned that in another thread in think tank. i figured if you narrow it down to the smaller spreads, it is probably around 5 or less on the moneyline it would be profitable.

                                                    i didn't get any response so i figured i was on to something. that is how you tell if your idea is good in the think tank. there is no response calling you an idiot.

                                                    edit: i would guess the area would be profitable would be from 3 to 6.5
                                                    LOL. Suffice to say you are not an idiot.
                                                    Betting blind like that is not my thing but it's good information to have nonetheless.
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                                                    • rake922
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-23-07
                                                      • 11692

                                                      #27
                                                      Bal@NE
                                                      1st half - Bal
                                                      2nd half - Bal
                                                      game - Bal

                                                      Bal@NE
                                                      1st half - Under
                                                      2nd half - Under
                                                      Game - Under

                                                      Nyg@SF
                                                      1st half- Nyg
                                                      2nd half - Push
                                                      Game - Nyg

                                                      Nyg@SF
                                                      1st half- Under
                                                      2nd half - Push
                                                      Game - Under
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