Book for Soccer for US Player?

englishmike · 08-29-08, 01:50 PM

Best advice I could give is to take an hour on a Friday night and check every book you've got an account with. It's different in the US because in the UK there is a newspaper that lists the soccer prices from 30 different Euro books, so in Europe all you need to do is buy that newspaper. As far as I know nobody currently lists the different soccer prices from different books but it is something I might do every Friday.

pavyracer · 08-29-08, 01:55 PM

Don't worry guys. Sean at sbrlines has promised me last year that the soccer lines will be available soon. I trust his word. Why spend hours looking at various books on Friday nights when Sean will have them running soon? Soon is coming sooner than you think.

englishmike · 08-29-08, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Don't worry guys. Sean at sbrlines has promised me that the soccer lines will be available soon last year. I trust his word. Why spend hours looking at various books on Friday nights when Sean will have them running soon. Soon is coming sooner than you think.

If that happens it will put SBR number one in the US as far as soccer betting goes.

Sean · 08-29-08, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Don't worry guys. Sean at sbrlines has promised me last year that the soccer lines will be available soon. I trust his word. Why spend hours looking at various books on Friday nights when Sean will have them running soon? Soon is coming sooner than you think.

It is the next item on our plate here ... promise.

durito · 08-29-08, 02:03 PM

They all suck.

You'd think with the difficulties getting new players and money that cris might be interested in expanding to the rest of the world. i mean i thought that was the point of the bookmaker/cris switch.

and they certainly do post a lot of leagues, earlier than pinny too, but their holds are ****ing ridiculous.

BRAZIL - SERIE A

29001 NAUTICO o2½-140 +700
29002 BOTAFOGO - RJ u2½EV -450
29003 Draw +350

29005 FIGUEIRENSE o2½-140 +285
29006 GOIAS u2½EV -142
29007 Draw +215

29009 IPATINGA o2½-150 +525
29010 VITORIA u2½+110 -300
29011 Draw +285

Brazil - Serie A Soccer - Sat 8/30

Sat 8/30 6551 Botafogo RJ -1.5 -106 -280 OVER 2.5 and 3 +100
02:19 PM 6552 Nautico Capibaribe +1.5 -102 +893 UNDER 2.5 and 3 -110
6553 Draw +419

Sat 8/30 6554 Goias -0.5 -120 -123 OVER 2.5 and 3 +107
02:19 PM 6555 Figueirense +0.5 +110 +357 UNDER 2.5 and 3 -117
6556 Draw +284

Sat 8/30 6557 Vitória BA -1 and -1.5 -103 -264 OVER 2.5 and 3 -108
02:19 PM 6558 Ipatinga +1 and +1.5 -105 +857 UNDER 2.5 and 3 -102
6559 Draw +400

englishmike · 08-29-08, 02:22 PM

Thinking about it it would be a waste of time posting just premier League lines because there are too many other leagues people areinterested in. Best advice I can give woyld be to go to the link below which will give you some idea of what the right price should be.

Just a moment...

http://www.oddschecker.com/

durito · 08-29-08, 02:23 PM

in bookmakers defense, at least they will actually post central/south american lines outside of brazil/argentina.

pinnacle is apparently afraid of $50 max bets.

englishmike · 08-29-08, 02:31 PM

I know we've had this conversation before and I think we've probably got differing takes but Pinnacle being affraid of $100 soccer bets is no different to BET3.65 not takingany decent action on Baseball. I think bookies get scared when they they think you might know more than they do, just human instinct. As an example, BET365 laid a bet of £200,000 on Chelsea to win the Premier League, I'm not saying it neccesarily proves anything either way but I do think Euro books will take better soccer action in the same way US books are happy to take big bets on US sports.
Just my two cents.

durito · 08-29-08, 02:38 PM

Bet 3.65 limits/boots anyone with a clue. soccer players, baseball players, rugby players, doesn't matter etc.

they even boot people that don't know what they are doing.

Pinnacle doesn't limit or boot anyone, you can win unlimited amounts there (this is of course really hard) They didn't cut my limits on Colombian soccer, they've simply stopped posting them entirely. I suppose it's more likely that are just lazy than scared. And of course I'm talking small scale south american soccer here. Pinny will take anything on the euro leagues. they have good limits on brazil and argentina leagues too.

englishmike · 08-29-08, 02:48 PM

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they even boot people that don't know what they are doing.

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The principle of bookmaking is to pay out less than you take, I would suggest 'booting people that don't know what they're doing,' would not only be stupid, it would be extremly bad for a buisness that absolutely loves 'people that don't know what they're doing.'

I've always wondered how you think they ever managed to be worth half-a-billion dollars as a company.

I don't argue with you for the sake of it, I know lots of people that bet at BET365 in varying amounts with varying degrees of sucess, so it's kinda hard for me to sit here and listen to you talking about a book that i don't recognise as having the same experiences with.

That doesn't mean you're not entitled to your opinion, it just means I don't agree.

durito · 08-29-08, 03:02 PM

I don't believe I have even stated an opinion.

Of course they are entitled to take bets from whomever they like. In today's market you have to do this (unless you are pinnacle or an exchange).

englishmike · 08-29-08, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by durito

Bet 3.65 limits/boots anyone with a clue.

I'm not an attorney but I'd say even a crap one would be able to make a case that your statement above clearly states an opinion.

Not that it matters, everybody has a different experience of everything, that's what life's about.

durito · 08-29-08, 03:15 PM

Read the archives.

Back in the neteller glory days of US online betting, Bet365 had a banner up top here. Lots of the people that have been around this forum for a while have played there. Every sharp I know that's played there has had their limits cut. Many simply suspected of bonus hunting/sharp play had their limits cut after 5 minutes.

You don't have to believe me, in the last thread we discussed this several european based players told you the same thing. They got the 3.65 nickname for a reason.

englishmike · 08-29-08, 03:22 PM

I don't doubt for one minute that what you say is true, I'm not even arguing that you're wrong, I'm arguing that my experience and the experience of people I know has been different, that's all.

Immortality · 08-29-08, 03:26 PM

All these responses i was hoping someone had a book to use for soccer that I had yet to check out yet.

Oh well I don't think one exists for the USA player that has comparable lines to 5dimes along with the betting options.

durito · 08-29-08, 03:29 PM

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/31371-question-about-www-bet365-com.html?highlight=bet+365

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/2285-warning-bet365-if-you-want-win-money.html?highlight=bet+365

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/82776-any-americans-playing-bet365.html?highlight=bet+365

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/86506-my-experience-bet365.html?highlight=bet+365

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/89448-bet-365-scam-treatment.html?highlight=bet+365

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/85346-lets-talk-time-delays-gentlemen.html?highlight=bet+365

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/48836-betting-limits.html?highlight=bet+365

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/26561-anyone-got-limited-bet-3-65-even-losing-money.html?highlight=bet+365

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/10022-bet365-com.html?highlight=bet+365

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/2329-policy-rating-bookmakers-limits-betting-accounts-sbr.html?highlight=bet+365

englishmike · 08-29-08, 03:38 PM

I'm not sure what part of: 'My experience has been differetn to yours' you don't get. Are you retarded? You don't seem to get the concept that some people can have a different view to yours, why does that make those people wrong? You're inability to accept other posters migh have a different view of yours makes me sick, always has, you're an idiot, always have been.

And you post threads from probably 100 people, they take 2 million bets a week you lemon, work the percentage out on that.

I've tried to talk to you with an element of respect because I was merely trying to state people can have differing views of the same situation but you don't seem to understand civility so fvck off, there's nothing more annoying than trying to hold a conversation with someone that keeps wanting to say: 'Despite your opinion, i'm right.'

You're an arrogant, patronising prick and if I start a list of posters I'd like to see beaten with a stick i'll put you at the top you fvckin lemon.

Consider this the my last post on this subject you fvckin knob head.

durito · 08-29-08, 03:48 PM

Wow. All I did was post some links, I never said anything else.

durito · 08-29-08, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by englishmike

I'm not sure what part of: 'My experience has been differetn to yours' you don't get. Are you retarded? You don't seem to get the concept that some people can have a different view to yours, why does that make those people wrong? You're inability to accept other posters migh have a different view of yours makes me sick, always has, you're an idiot, always have been.

And you post threads from probably 100 people, they take 2 million bets a week you lemon, work the percentage out on that.

I've tried to talk to you with an element of respect because I was merely trying to state people can have differing views of the same situation but you don't seem to understand civility so fvck off, there's nothing more annoying than trying to hold a conversation with someone that keeps wanting to say: 'Despite your opinion, i'm right.'

You're an arrogant, patronising prick and if I start a list of posters I'd like to see beaten with a stick i'll put you at the top you fvckin lemon.

Consider this the my last post on this subject you fvckin knob head.

Quoting this for fun.

Please point to where I said that your experience was wrong or that I was right. I never said any such thing. All I did was show others that had had the same experience as me. In fact, I didn't even write anything in that post, so please show me how I am being a prick.

You flipped out on me in TLD's thread the other night for a post that was 100% a compliment to TLD and nothing else.

I'm not sure what your problem is.