If you gamble seriously, then you MUST HAVE sportsoptions!

[grekos]

What's the speed difference between sbr. and db in seconds?

[Santo]

I love the Sportsoptions product, and Rick is great to work with & talk to. I'm not betting much at the moment as I'm overloaded with work (and looking into the fantasy sports opportunities), but if the markets come back / I identify more profitable avenues the first thing I'd do would be renew my subscription. The iPad/mobile product is a big advantage also.

I used to use & recommend G&J, and since they closed/merged I've recommended SO to many. I've tried DB 3 or 4 times over the 8 years or so I've been doing this, and have never got on with it -- that may just be personal preference of course.

[RickySteve]

Santo admits he's a failure and Hareeba is the laughing stock of the forum. It all comes together in the end.

Blow JL a kiss for me.

[jjgold]

I use DBS3

Its the Cadillac of line services
Been around the longest
Sports Options Stole a lot of programming from Don Best

I think Sports Options is more for a square player

DB has exclusive real time agreements with the top books meaning other line services are delayed somewhat

Sports Insights is not a professional product www.SBRODDS is just as good

[Santo]

Santo admits he's a failure and Hareeba is the laughing stock of the forum. It all comes together in the end.

Blow JL a kiss for me.

I thought we'd moved on from the JL-hate RS ;-) His stuff is still played by many, and as far as I know still giving people incomes -- it's also incredibly time consuming and not compatible with a regular life.

A lot of what I did is no longer possible after Matchbook changed commission structure. It was also a sedentary, unsocial life and so I didn't heavily pursue other opportunities within the industry -- instead I moved around and have had the opportunity to work in several different countries, resulting in a slightly lower income but far happier life. Maybe if you spent less time trolling forums you could have the same.

[Frank]

Don Best is delayed for Betonline and Stratosphere.

Heritage is the only book on SO that isn't on DB, along with some of the PPH's.

Other than that Don Best is a completely superior product.

Don Best was down for like 5 hours on Saturday.

SMTO looks completely identical and was also down and stuck at the same time as DB.

[jjgold]

Don Best is delayed for Betonline and Stratosphere.

Heritage is the only book on SO that isn't on DB, along with some of the PPH's.

Other than that Don Best is a completely superior product.

Don Best was down for like 5 hours on Saturday.

SMTO looks completely identical and was also down and stuck at the same time as DB.

[BrigadierPudding]

The Pinnacle feed on SBR Odds updates faster than Sports Options.

[SBR_John]

The Pinnacle feed on SBR Odds updates faster than Sports Options.

We are faster on line moves for a couple of books, faster than Don best at times. But its different for everybody. Some folks in Las Vegas will find DB and SO faster.

DonBest and SportsOptions have better injury updates and both double check finals. These are absolutely critical if you are booking and its an area we purposely avoid because our product is geared for regular players.

[Santo]

Pinnacle is the reason I used to use G&J, they were faster than anyone for that. It may well be that if you want a faster pinnacle feed in this era DB is the way to go.

[jjgold]

The Pinnacle feed on SBR Odds updates faster than Sports Options.

YES


Any real pro uses Don best and not Sports Options there is no other way around it

SBR Posters at least 90% of them only need www.sbrodds.com

[Scooter]

Don Best is delayed for Betonline and Stratosphere.

Heritage is the only book on SO that isn't on DB, along with some of the PPH's.

Other than that Don Best is a completely superior product.

In what ways is it superior?

[Frank]

In what ways is it superior?

If you have accounts at pretty much every book and live in Vegas you gotta use DB.

DB has every Vegas book except Cantor.

SO missing some.

DB has a few more offshores than SO also.

Quite a few books on SO are delayed.

Both are easy to use and have about a million things I don't even know how to use but it all comes down to amount of outs and live feeds and DB is superior in that aspect.

[LVHerbie]

I've monitored www.sbrodds.com and Pinnacle side-by-side and www.sbrodds.com updates within seconds of Pinnacle moves.

I'm always amazed at SBR's speed on pinnacle... Often times they beat pinnacle own dynamic lines updates (unless you are clicking refresh ) on the moves...

Sports options is good If you are betting big enough to justify it but I would have to agree with JJ that for 90% of us SBRodds is probably good enough...

[makaveli66]

YES


Any real pro uses Don best and not Sports Options there is no other way around it

SBR Posters at least 90% of them only need www.sbrodds.com

JJAAAAY!!

[Inkwell77]

what does lvasports use? Are they good in comparison to some of these other services?

[makaveli66]

Romney is not good for rep. though. He's too democratic, gives Obama as good of a chance as he could get, I think.

[makaveli66]

Now, that I think, he could take votes away so I don't know.

[RickySteve]

I thought we'd moved on from the JL-hate RS ;-) His stuff is still played by many, and as far as I know still giving people incomes -- it's also incredibly time consuming and not compatible with a regular life.

A lot of what I did is no longer possible after Matchbook changed commission structure. It was also a sedentary, unsocial life and so I didn't heavily pursue other opportunities within the industry -- instead I moved around and have had the opportunity to work in several different countries, resulting in a slightly lower income but far happier life. Maybe if you spent less time trolling forums you could have the same.

But how much did you lose?

So a man is handing you a crystal ball but you can't win betting sports because one book changes from 2% net to 1% gross commission? Truly embarrassing.

[Santo]

I was trading markets at MB, back and forth several times during the day, thus it went from 2% to undefined, where undefined was larger than my profit margins. I stopped the other betting before that because it is/was incompatible with a decent lifestyle. I remain substantially net +ve, but anyone who started in the late 90s/early 00's most likely does, so that's no great achievement.

Look RS, if you want to spend your time beating the 2011/12/13 markets more power to you, despite your continued personal attacks I have no desire to see you fail. For me, it wasn't fulfilling socially, intellectually or, after the MB change, financially.

[tony_come]

Sports options

Get it!

[jjgold]

www.sbrodds.com is running very well as of late

I compare to Don Best and it holds its own

I beard for Walker so I need Don Best

[SlickRick1382]

I love SportsOptions... I couldn't imagine trying to do second-half betting without it. On Saturday, Don Best was "broken" most of the day. I've been using Sports Options for... maybe 4 months now, and never had a hiccup. There are only two things I wish SportsOptions could add: real time lines from Cris/Bookmaker, and more tennis offerings (spreads and totals).

SI has CRIS and bookmaker ....

[jjgold]

SI has CRIS and bookmaker ....

Its not real time

Don Best has an exclusive agreement to provide them only

[SBR_John]

If you have accounts at pretty much every book and live in Vegas you gotta use DB.

DB has every Vegas book except Cantor.

SO missing some.

DB has a few more offshores than SO also.

Quite a few books on SO are delayed.

Both are easy to use and have about a million things I don't even know how to use but it all comes down to amount of outs and live feeds and DB is superior in that aspect.

That's a very good post.

We use SportsOptions at SBR but I totally agree with the post above. The one thing not mentioned is price. DonBest is about $500 a month with discounts, SO is about $270 a month. DonBest is better but its overkill for us and I'm not going to pay the extra $230 a month.

[playersonly69]

I pay the $99 a month and it is fine for me.


I guess that I am not a "professional" like JJGOLD claims to be. But then again I have been gambling for a living for over 10 years and support a wife and 2 kids.

[SlickRick1382]

Its not real time Don Best has an exclusive agreement to provide them only

Noted

[SBR_John]

I pay the $99 a month and it is fine for me.


I guess that I am not a "professional" like JJGOLD claims to be. But then again I have been gambling for a living for over 10 years and support a wife and 2 kids.

Never have figured out why someone would buy a delayed line service. As has been noted in this thread SBR is faster on some of the moves and books than both DB and SO and that's their premium service. It's ancient news by the time the delayed services move. The only use I can think of is confirming finals before grading.

[big0mar]

Never have figured out why someone would buy a delayed line service. As has been noted in this thread SBR is faster on some of the moves and books than both DB and SO and that's their premium service. It's ancient news by the time the delayed services move. The only use I can think of is confirming finals before grading.

SBR is faster than the $500/mo. DB service???

[biggie12]

Never have figured out why someone would buy a delayed line service. As has been noted in this thread SBR is faster on some of the moves and books than both DB and SO and that's their premium service. It's ancient news by the time the delayed services move. The only use I can think of is confirming finals before grading.

Don't know why anyone would buy the delayed service no point whatsoever.

[RudyRuetigger]

i will always back sbrodds.com in this area for 97% of the people

[ebbearsfb1]

Use sbrodds.com or get the fu(k. Out

[jjgold]

Depends on what your looking for

I always liked the quickness, custom screens/looks/reliability, accuracy , speed and # of books that they paid services have
Your paying for a reason

www.sbrodds.com is still excellent and I use it also and suits most players here and lines up to date

[RickySteve]

I guess that I am not a "professional" like JJGOLD claims to be. But then again I have been gambling for a living for over 10 years and support a wife and 2 kids.

Stfu you lying scumbag shill.

[raiders72001]

Santo admits he's a failure and Hareeba is the laughing stock of the forum. It all comes together in the end.

Blow JL a kiss for me.

nice to see that you're still the biggest asshole in forumville.