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  • dontknowhowtobet
    SBR MVP
    • 01-21-09
    • 2896

    #1
    I'm now limited online and offline
    William Hill limited me from placing big NCAA bets, offline, in their shops, I'm thinking maybe to ask my friend next time to place a bet there, but they might just limit him as well.

    They limited my online account and now my "offline account" (myself) is limited, I had to place a bet yesterday with Ladbrokes but I'm afraid they will start limiting me too after 2 or 3 big winnings ... how can I pass these limits and why are they scared of taking big bets on the NCAA? The guy from Ladbrokes had to call too for authorization on the bet coz he said it was a large amount but thankfully he got that authorization - but why are they scared of taking bets there?

    Any ideas how to overcome the system? I don't wanna use US books coz they are expensive to deposit and withdraw and take them 2-3 weeks to process your withdrawals, whilst UK books do that in 1-2 days without a fee at all and it's also non-taxable in the UK .......
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    Pinnacle Tough guy?

    No limits
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    • frizzelli
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-06-10
      • 8916

      #3
      Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
      William Hill limited me from placing big NCAA bets, offline, in their shops, I'm thinking maybe to ask my friend next time to place a bet there, but they might just limit him as well. They limited my online account and now my "offline account" (myself) is limited, I had to place a bet yesterday with Ladbrokes but I'm afraid they will start limiting me too after 2 or 3 big winnings ... how can I pass these limits and why are they scared of taking big bets on the NCAA? The guy from Ladbrokes had to call too for authorization on the bet coz he said it was a large amount but thankfully he got that authorization - but why are they scared of taking bets there? Any ideas how to overcome the system? I don't wanna use US books coz they are expensive to deposit and withdraw and take them 2-3 weeks to process your withdrawals, whilst UK books do that in 1-2 days without a fee at all and it's also non-taxable in the UK .......
      Wow you are seriously the greatest capper on this site. You are so fukking awesome. Im not being sarcastic at alll
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      • FourLengthsClear
        SBR MVP
        • 12-29-10
        • 3808

        #4
        There are many better books available to you.

        For a start, get yourself an Moneybookers or Neteller account and open a Pinnacle account. They have a restriction on the number of withdrawals but the money will be in your e-wallet within an hour or two.
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        • Jerm3462
          SBR MVP
          • 11-09-09
          • 4454

          #5
          Stop betting steam
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          • dontknowhowtobet
            SBR MVP
            • 01-21-09
            • 2896

            #6
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Pinnacle Tough guy?

            No limits
            Pinnacle = No withdrawals.
            I'm not placing £1000 bets all the times.
            Sometimes when you bet £100 to win £80 and you have to pay a fee --> Makes your winnings go down.

            UK books pay in full without fees, that's what I like.
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            • dontknowhowtobet
              SBR MVP
              • 01-21-09
              • 2896

              #7
              Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
              For a start, get yourself an Moneybookers or Neteller account and open a Pinnacle account. They have a restriction on the number of withdrawals but the money will be in your e-wallet within an hour or two.
              Neteller = fees.
              Moneybookers = fees.
              I don't like fees.
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              • betplom
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-20-06
                • 13444

                #8
                How does Pinny = no withdrawals?

                They pay within minutes via moneybookers.

                First withdrawal per month is free.

                $15 for each subsequent withdrawal.

                Withdrawal fees are a pain but withdrawing frequently is a good thing.
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                • FourLengthsClear
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-29-10
                  • 3808

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                  Neteller = fees.
                  Moneybookers = fees.
                  I don't like fees.
                  There are no fees if you are even half smart.

                  1) Deposit into Neteller using a DC - free
                  2) Take the offer of the ********** linked to your Neteller account = free
                  3) Buy stuff with the ********** = free

                  ********** = CC company that rhymes with faster tard.
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                  • dontknowhowtobet
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-21-09
                    • 2896

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                    3) Buy stuff with the ********** = free
                    Hmmm... thanks for the tip .... can I use the DC in the Post Office and get cash from the card buy doing a POS from the Post Office? (It's like a sale but you get cash)
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                    • dontknowhowtobet
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-21-09
                      • 2896

                      #11
                      Originally posted by betplom
                      $15 for each subsequent withdrawal.
                      If I were doing that with them it would have taken ages for the withdrawal to be sent back from Moneybookers and plus $15 fees... the Neteller idea though is nice but I'm not sure if I can use the money on the DC to pull it out through a sales transaction (POS) ... that would solve the problem and I can live with $15 fee but last time I had £1000 withdrawal from Moneybookers they slaughtered me with fees and I'm not using them again.
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                      • betplom
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-20-06
                        • 13444

                        #12
                        I don't know how you figure moneybookers is slow, I receive my funds usually within 24hrs of requesting it from moneybookers.

                        Request at 2pm on tuesday and funds are in my HSBC USD account by 12 noon next day.
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                        • FourLengthsClear
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-29-10
                          • 3808

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                          Hmmm... thanks for the tip .... can I use the DC in the Post Office and get cash from the card buy doing a POS from the Post Office? (It's like a sale but you get cash)
                          I don't think so, no.
                          You could withdraw cash from an ATM but that would incur a fee.
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                          • FourLengthsClear
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-29-10
                            • 3808

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                            If I were doing that with them it would have taken ages for the withdrawal to be sent back from Moneybookers and plus $15 fees... the Neteller idea though is nice but I'm not sure if I can use the money on the DC to pull it out through a sales transaction (POS) ... that would solve the problem and I can live with $15 fee but last time I had £1000 withdrawal from Moneybookers they slaughtered me with fees and I'm not using them again.
                            You are kidding right? The fee for a Moneybookers withdrawal to a UK bank account is GBP 1.50 upto GBP 5000.

                            Also note that is you have a Vi-sa deb-it or Maestro card issued by a UK bank your can deposit directly to and withdraw from Pinnacle using those.

                            Mods. sorry for circumventing the *********** but as this does not involve US deposits/withdrawals, I trust it is OK.
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                            • dontknowhowtobet
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-21-09
                              • 2896

                              #15
                              Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                              You are kidding right? The fee for a Moneybookers withdrawal to a UK bank account is GBP 1.50 upto GBP 5000.

                              Also note that is you have a Vi-sa deb-it or Maestro card issued by a UK bank your can deposit directly to and withdraw from Pinnacle using those.

                              Mods. sorry for circumventing the *********** but as this does not involve US deposits/withdrawals, I trust it is OK.
                              I used the option to withdraw £££ back to the card with MB and they charged me like £10 for it coz they didn't let me take more than £420 in each transaction .... I've realized I should have used the bank option only now darn .... I hate this ****
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                              • dontknowhowtobet
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-21-09
                                • 2896

                                #16
                                Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                I don't think so, no.
                                You could withdraw cash from an ATM but that would incur a fee.
                                Darn, so it sucks then.
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                                • baskets
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-24-11
                                  • 11691

                                  #17
                                  i'm done
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                                  • dontknowhowtobet
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-21-09
                                    • 2896

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by betplom
                                    I don't know how you figure moneybookers is slow, I receive my funds usually within 24hrs of requesting it from moneybookers.

                                    Request at 2pm on tuesday and funds are in my HSBC USD account by 12 noon next day.
                                    Last time I asked them to send me back £80 it took like a week.
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                                    • FourLengthsClear
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-29-10
                                      • 3808

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                                      I used the option to withdraw £££ back to the card with MB and they charged me like £10 for it coz they didn't let me take more than £420 in each transaction .... I've realized I should have used the bank option only now darn .... I hate this ****
                                      Do not withdraw to the card. Request the withdrawal to your bank account. It still takes 2-3 days but has a much higher limit (upto GBP 5000) and a lower fee, as mentioned.
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                                      • Br0nxer
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-25-11
                                        • 13665

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                                        William Hill limited me from placing big NCAA bets, offline, in their shops, I'm thinking maybe to ask my friend next time to place a bet there, but they might just limit him as well.

                                        They limited my online account and now my "offline account" (myself) is limited, I had to place a bet yesterday with Ladbrokes but I'm afraid they will start limiting me too after 2 or 3 big winnings ... how can I pass these limits and why are they scared of taking big bets on the NCAA? The guy from Ladbrokes had to call too for authorization on the bet coz he said it was a large amount but thankfully he got that authorization - but why are they scared of taking bets there?

                                        Any ideas how to overcome the system? I don't wanna use US books coz they are expensive to deposit and withdraw and take them 2-3 weeks to process your withdrawals, whilst UK books do that in 1-2 days without a fee at all and it's also non-taxable in the UK .......
                                        can you pretty please be my friend
                                        you are my hero
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                                        • FourLengthsClear
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-29-10
                                          • 3808

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                                          Last time I asked them to send me back £80 it took like a week.
                                          Our banking system is still somewhat antiquated so it will take longer than where Betplom is from (Canada, I think) but 2-3 working days is the standard.
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                                          • andywend
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-20-07
                                            • 4805

                                            #22
                                            OP claims he is winning so frequently that he can't bet anywhere online or offline and yet he's whining about $20 in fees?

                                            Either he is lying about his handicapping prowess or is INCREDIBLY CHEAP!!!

                                            Probably both.
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                                            • dontknowhowtobet
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-21-09
                                              • 2896

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Br0nxer
                                              can you pretty please be my friend
                                              you are my hero
                                              George Bush is part of the Hamas or Hizbollah lol ??
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                                              • dontknowhowtobet
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-21-09
                                                • 2896

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by andywend
                                                OP claims he is winning so frequently that he can't bet anywhere online or offline and yet he's whining about $20 in fees?

                                                Either he is lying about his handicapping prowess or is INCREDIBLY CHEAP!!!

                                                Probably both.
                                                Yes, I'm lying.
                                                You caught me!

                                                I placed exactly £1000 bet with Pepperdine yesterday so I'm actually lost £200 just from the juice of the bookies, I play both sides to lose it, yes sir.
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                                                • FourLengthsClear
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-29-10
                                                  • 3808

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by andywend
                                                  OP claims he is winning so frequently that he can't bet anywhere online or offline and yet he's whining about $20 in fees?

                                                  Either he is lying about his handicapping prowess or is INCREDIBLY CHEAP!!!

                                                  Probably both.
                                                  When it come to banks and bookies, there is nothing wrong with being incredibly cheap.

                                                  On this side of the pond we obviously have a very different regulatory environment to you guys and fees on deposits/withdrawals are pretty much non-existent.
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                                                  • dontknowhowtobet
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-21-09
                                                    • 2896

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                                    When it come to banks and bookies, there is nothing wrong with being incredibly cheap.

                                                    On this side of the pond we obviously have a very different regulatory environment to you guys and fees on deposits/withdrawals are pretty much non-existent.
                                                    When I donate money to charity for instance I don't give a **** how much fees they charge me if it's in America and they take it out from my £ account and I pay fees to convert £ to $, but when it comes to this industry especially that I work close with it being cheap with these guys is the best you should do, don't give them anything out of your pocket .... £10 is £10, it's not free money that I am feeling happy to pay, FLC is right.
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                                                    • dontknowhowtobet
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-21-09
                                                      • 2896

                                                      #27
                                                      Don't get me wrong, I do get bad bets too but what do you want me to do with them - to post them?





                                                      I lost tons of £10 bets, but I play them as a test and not as a big play.
                                                      So far I've noticed the NBA is like baseball, no clue to guess who would win, the under/over is damn hard to predict, they play it now like the NBL in Australia completely not reliable.
                                                      The NCAA on the other hand is much much easier to predict.
                                                      This is where I play lots of £££ and make lots of £££ --> hence, got limited.
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                                                      • Hareeba!
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 07-01-06
                                                        • 37308

                                                        #28
                                                        Those UK books will all limit you sooner than later.

                                                        Depending on what sports you bet you have to use Pinnacle, SBO, 188, Betfair and Matchbook.
                                                        No deposit or withdrawal fees.

                                                        And Moneybookers to fund them. There's a fee to fund Moneybookers in the first place but withdrawals are free.
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                                                        • FourLengthsClear
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-29-10
                                                          • 3808

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                          Those UK books will all limit you sooner than later.

                                                          Depending on what sports you bet you have to use Pinnacle, SBO, 188, Betfair and Matchbook.
                                                          No deposit or withdrawal fees.

                                                          And Moneybookers to fund them. There's a fee to fund Moneybookers in the first place but withdrawals are free.
                                                          Actually in the UK, the is a nifty feature known as "direct ebanking" which allows you to access the bank's internet banking facility through the moneybookers site. Depositing that way is also free from any fees.
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                                                          • kiwi
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-11-05
                                                            • 674

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                                            Actually in the UK, the is a nifty feature known as "direct ebanking" which allows you to access the bank's internet banking facility through the moneybookers site. Depositing that way is also free from any fees.
                                                            Same in Germany.
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                                                            • Glitch
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-08-09
                                                              • 11795

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                                                              Neteller = fees.
                                                              Moneybookers = fees.
                                                              I don't like fees.
                                                              the moneybooker fees will be misicule to get money to and from your bank and almost always non-existent when making a deposit at a book or getting a withdrawal..
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                                                              • paco
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-07-09
                                                                • 62873

                                                                #32
                                                                Guess u should change ur username.
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                                                                • dj_destroyer
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-28-10
                                                                  • 3856

                                                                  #33
                                                                  You're an absolute idiot.

                                                                  Pinnacle has the highest limits in the industry for NCAA ($7000).
                                                                  Pinnacle has one FREE withdrawal per month. No fees!
                                                                  If you use |nstad3b|t, you can deposit and withdraw in a matter of minutes (most often, seconds).
                                                                  They don't limit anyone.

                                                                  All your fukking problems solved you mush.
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                                                                  • whatagoal1
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 06-05-10
                                                                    • 56

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Don't understand how you struggle to get on in uk shops, over the Christmas period Laddys laid me a four monkeys, 7 times, started a carpet, after touching bottle and half
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                                                                    • FourLengthsClear
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-29-10
                                                                      • 3808

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by whatagoal1
                                                                      Don't understand how you struggle to get on in uk shops, over the Christmas period Laddys laid me a four monkeys, 7 times, started a carpet, after touching bottle and half
                                                                      A bottle and a half on the shoulders, right?
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