ryan leaf did the same thing....

[ebbearsfb1]

1997 rose bowl... spiked it as time ran out... no need to even spike it

[ttwarrior1]

vid or it never happened

[seaborneq]

It happened. Just the wrong person to emulate in the clutch. Leaf?

[ebbearsfb1]

Tt warrior I told you the year and game don't be lazy and look it up... lmao. If your as clutch as ryan leaf well then you got issues

[muldoon]

1998 Rose Bowl

[ebbearsfb1]

Thanks 1997 season then it was against michigan

[Brock Landers]

i remember that, same spot on the field too

[big joe 1212]

I don't understand why they just don't run a play. They should know they couldn't spike it that fast.

[seaborneq]

I don't understand why they just don't run a play. They should know they couldn't spike it that fast.

It's going to be an offensive penalty every time. Everybody is running around crazy, no one is set. Spiking is the right play.

[ebbearsfb1]

Idk seemed like they had enough time to run the play... everyone was set to spike it... should be set to run a play

[ttwarrior1]

im sure its on youtube

[jgray]

Idk seemed like they had enough time to run the play... everyone was set to spike it... should be set to run a play

Sure they were set. It's because they didn't have to worry about anything else (like, hey what play are we going to run??) and just focus on lining up.

[Sports Tsunami]

It's going to be an offensive penalty every time. Everybody is running around crazy, no one is set. Spiking is the right play.

You still have to be set to spike the ball. They had time to setup anyway since the play before was a 1st down.

IMO he could have spiked it with a second left if he was quick with it. He didn't act like he was in a real hurry.

[FindTheLock]

they should have ran their previous play towards the sideline or lateraled the ball because with 2 seconds left and no time outs you're fuked.

[ebbearsfb1]

What play your going to run? Umm if u need to ask you shouldn't be on the field anyway

[jgray]

What play your going to run? Umm if u need to ask you shouldn't be on the field anyway

So they all will somehow know what play they are going to run. All 11? Really? How will they know this? Who's calling the play? How long does that take?

It's just not that easy. The spike is the right call.

[FindTheLock]

the coach is the reason they didn't have any more time outs in the first place. Even if they all go deep on that last play there is a small percentage they catch the hail mary in the end zone.

[jgray]

the coach is the reason they didn't have any more time outs in the first place. Even if they all go deep on that last play there is a small percentage they catch the hail mary in the end zone.

What's the snap count?

[ebbearsfb1]

So they all will somehow know what play they are going to run. All 11? Really? How will they know this? Who's calling the play? How long does that take? It's just not that easy. The spike is the right call.

I played college football.

I've been in that situation before... it should be done in practice everyone knows what they are suppose to do. the play call is get your ass in the end zone.. and yest it is that easy...


Yup spike looks like it was the right, didn't even give urself a chance to win...

or you run a hail mary and could get lucky and get p.I. or a catch it happened twice against them they should know... always give urself a chance the spike gives you no chance with 2 seconds left

[FindTheLock]

What's the snap count?

with 2 seconds left there is no snap count. You snap the ball and everyone runs to the end zone. There is no time for trickery... The coach busted their chances burning meaningless time outs in the 3rd quarter.

[ebbearsfb1]

snap count your joking right?

yeah lets snap it on 3 why dont we ..


get under center and your off...


no need for a count

[RyanLeafOfBets]

Don't be hatin' on my namesake!!!

[Ernie Mccracken]

Don't be hatin' on my namesake!!!

I see you as more of a Jamarcus Russell of bets.

[RyanLeafOfBets]

I see you as more of a Jamarcus Russell of bets.

Nah, I'm actually going through somewhat of a positive spell... Jamarcus Russell never had any silver lining!

[jgray]

You are correct that in this situation, there is no snap count to consider. But where do you draw the line and not spike the ball. Every time? Less than 1 sec? 2? 3? 4? 5? Where do you draw the line?

I just don't think you appreciate how chaotic it is in those situations. A simple task -- line up and spike it -- is much more likely to be successfully run.

[ebbearsfb1]

Anything less than 2 seconds... I do know how chaotic end game situations are... the defense also wasn't set ...

[seaborneq]

You are correct that in this situation, there is no snap count to consider. But where do you draw the line and not spike the ball. Every time? Less than 1 sec? 2? 3? 4? 5? Where do you draw the line?

I just don't think you appreciate how chaotic it is in those situations. A simple task -- line up and spike it -- is much more likely to be successfully run.

I like your thought process. Good info.

[Albert Pujols]

So they all will somehow know what play they are going to run. All 11? Really? How will they know this? Who's calling the play? How long does that take?

It's just not that easy. The spike is the right call.

Yeah, forfeiting was the right call.

[Ernie Mccracken]

Where do you draw the line?

4 Seconds is enough for a disciplined team (maybe not SEC droolers). 3 seconds is a gamble and 2 seconds should be ruled impossible kind of like inbounding rules in basketball.

[Albert Pujols]

You are correct that in this situation, there is no snap count to consider. But where do you draw the line and not spike the ball. Every time? Less than 1 sec? 2? 3? 4? 5? Where do you draw the line?

I just don't think you appreciate how chaotic it is in those situations. A simple task -- line up and spike it -- is much more likely to be successfully run.

It was an absolutely boneheaded play. At 2 seconds, you know you don't have enough time to spike it. If you don't , you're an idiot. You probably aren't going to win, but you have hope. You snap the ball and throw it in the end zone. You had no chance at the 15 with 16 seconds left. Somehow, you now have a shot, which is a miracle itself. And then you throw it away and forfeit.

[jgray]

So it's "impossible" to spike it at 2 seconds? Seemed awfully close to being succussful to me and I thought the whole thing was pretty slow (and the clock may have started early).

Sorry guys, if you expect all 11 guys to know what to do in this situation, you are crazy. They just completed a long pass, and you expect all 11 guys to look at the clock and make an independant determination that it won't be spiked. If even one offensive lineman is wrong, here comes the rush unblocked (because he thinks it's just a spike). How much precious time do you spend practicing this play so everyone's ready? Also, what play are you running? You are only thinking about where the ball was last night. What if it's inside the 10. The "hail mary" won't work. How about inside your own 20? What play then?

Frankly, it seems to me that any coach that's thinking this far in advance is likely to NOT have burned an unnecessary TO earlier in the half.

[milwaukee mike]

So it's "impossible" to spike it at 2 seconds? Seemed awfully close to being succussful to me and I thought the whole thing was pretty slow (and the clock may have started early).

Sorry guys, if you expect all 11 guys to know what to do in this situation, you are crazy. They just completed a long pass, and you expect all 11 guys to look at the clock and make an independant determination that it won't be spiked. If even one offensive lineman is wrong, here comes the rush unblocked (because he thinks it's just a spike). How much precious time do you spend practicing this play so everyone's ready? Also, what play are you running? You are only thinking about where the ball was last night. What if it's inside the 10. The "hail mary" won't work. How about inside your own 20? What play then?

Frankly, it seems to me that any coach that's thinking this far in advance is likely to NOT have burned an unnecessary TO earlier in the half.

the wisconsin coaching staff continues to get outcoached in big games like this.
remember the end of the first half?
wisconsin player gets tackled at the boundary with 20 seconds left, it took wisconsin all the way down to 6 seconds to realize the clock was running and call a time out.

lot of guys being paid a lot of money to look at things like that, where's the offensive/defensive coordinators and other coaches? shouldn't take 14 seconds to realize the clock is moving and what would they do with their 2 timeouts left in the first half?

bielema is always calling timeouts when he shouldn't (end of the michigan st game before hail mary, and 2 wasted 2nd half timeouts last night) and not calling them when he should (end of first half last night).

[ebbearsfb1]

So it's "impossible" to spike it at 2 seconds? Seemed awfully close to being succussful to me and I thought the whole thing was pretty slow (and the clock may have started early).

Sorry guys, if you expect all 11 guys to know what to do in this situation, you are crazy. They just completed a long pass, and you expect all 11 guys to look at the clock and make an independant determination that it won't be spiked. If even one offensive lineman is wrong, here comes the rush unblocked (because he thinks it's just a spike). How much precious time do you spend practicing this play so everyone's ready? Also, what play are you running? You are only thinking about where the ball was last night. What if it's inside the 10. The "hail mary" won't work. How about inside your own 20? What play then?

Frankly, it seems to me that any coach that's thinking this far in advance is likely to NOT have burned an unnecessary TO earlier in the half.

. Have you played the game before? Any coach that doesn't practice late game situations is a moron.
With 2 seconds left you gave yourself 0 chance with a spike... look what happened... the clock didn't start early it started when it was suppose to.. the play call is whatevrt you did in practice hail mary... 2 guys deep 1 crossing over... idk I'm not at wisconsin practices.. but yes if I was coaching I would expect them to know what they are doing, they are scholarship athletes mind you.. so instead the game ends with the ball at oregon 25 yard libne without giving your team a chance

[ebbearsfb1]

its called practice for a reason... you prepare your teams for late game scenarios... 10 to 15 mins of practice is dedicated to it at most programs... so about 40 mins a week give or take.. idk what wisconsin does .. I guess brett assumes they are going to blow teams out so he doesn't give a f*ck about it.. idk.. also you got a first down.. while your running down the field you had time to yell out a play number..the clock stopped ticking for a good 5 to 7 seconds

[ebbearsfb1]

The difference between 3 games yesterday was poor managing at the end of the game... georgia stanford and wisconsin coaching staffs all failed their teams