Boxing Champ vs Roxxy Soccer Challenge

[showtiime]

Totes too much time, there weren't many games to cap yesterday / today other than La Liga / Serie A / Greece Leagues
But just driving home a point, if you caught some dude flat out lying and cheating you would probably call him up on it.

It just took a whole lot of shi-t to get the message across in detail after his initial denial so there was no way he could squirm out of it.

[Roxxyfish]

Totes too much time, there weren't many games to cap yesterday / today other than La Liga / Serie A / Greece Leagues
But just driving home a point, if you caught some dude flat out lying and cheating you would probably call him up on it.

It just took a whole lot of shi-t to get the message across in detail after his initial denial so there was no way he could squirm out of it.

you fool show me closing odds from oddsportal great, as the name says that was closing odds so the closing odds on -2 was 3.25 that means they couldnt be 4 at a time lol, and as i already said to BC, why i shoould i cheat for a 30$ push?? that makes no sense,if i would cheat than for sure for a higher stack

[Roxxyfish]

little bit unlucky in the end but not a bad day at all

[showtiime]

lol, everything you just said does not make sense.

I only showed the closing odds as an example of your lies because that other guy posted it.
You still haven't justified anything.

Yes the closing odds on the $1.44 ML for the AH-2 were $3.25, which means the odds for CLEARING the -2 would be $4 right? Just like I said they were at bet365 when you posted the spreadsheet with "-2 @$4" 15 mins before kick off.

Just an awful coincidence that the prices for the asian-2 and to CLEAR the -2 were the exact same price isn't it? & also quite the coincidence you say you play most your football at bet365

Initially when I queried why you graded it a push not a loss you said it was an asian line, I knew that it wasn't because I was watching the prices most of the day, and when I peppered you into telling me where you got those amazing odds for $1.44 ML / $4 -2 AH you kept dodging me thinking I would give up. I knew that whole time that the $4 in your spreadsheet was for them to clear the -2 handicap, not an AH.

And the fact that you continue on with saying those were the closing odds the price must of moved over 30c and you got $1.76ML at a mysterious book - the 2nd link posted by me shows that is a lie within a lie - it shows another game on the same night in the same league with a $1.72 ML had -2 AH odds of $5.50. & lol to the fact that you expect people to believe a ML moved over 30c in the 5th divison of the english league without major injury news or their being a red card before kick off.

Basically the lies you are trying to feed are that you got a (non-existent) $1.76ML and got the worst odds in the world AH-2 @$4, when really the odds should be around the $5.50+ mark.

Do you understand now dopefish? It pains me such a successful soccer capper as yourself not understanding everything that's been said.
I've explained it many times now, in great detail.

I don't know whether you're acting dumb or just replying with BS in the hope that I quit arguing.
I have no idea why you would cheat on $30 push, maybe because you thought you could get away with it? but the fact is; you didn't.
You were caught; hook, line and sinker.

Anyway, just to put another nail in the coffin, you just dobbed yourself in.

so the closing odds on -2 was 3.25 that means they couldnt be 4 at a time lol

Of course there couldn't be -2 AH @$4 on a $1.44 side, that is the WHOLE point, thats why I was being sarcastic in the other thread asking where you got those 'great odds' because I knew there was little to no line movement in this game and the price difference you were preaching on the ACTUAL -2 AH @$3.25 was off by 75c, and you kept telling lies which has wasted a good amount of my time because obviously this is going no where and you're not going to admit a thing / come clean, even though the evidence is so incriminating it's not even funny.

It would be interesting to hear what you have to say now, it couldn't be explained any clearer by me, your responses have had no reasoning what so ever, are dodging the facts and have been completely uninformative. You can go ahead a put forth a reply that sinks you even deeper.
The best you can you up with is calling me a fool and questioning why would you bother for $30, yet you won't go into detail and explain how you got the warped / wrong prices for the ML/AH.

I probably won't bother anymore if your response is as dumb as the last one.
Do what you do.

[Wordsworth]

[Roxxyfish]

Showtime if you have too much time check my todays bets you might find a bad line

argueing with you is like argueing with a 5 year old, by thw way, i never said i have the moneyline for 1.78 i just said i saw it, again i made my bet a 5dimes, maybe i was wrong with the 1.76 i dont know as i didnt play it ,understand?? but i was not wrong with 4.0

[showtiime]

I dont know what he is blabbering, he says the odds for Kidderminster were 1.44 that might be right, i dont know, the time i did that bet they were 1.76 so the Handicaps have even a higher odds, lines change quick as we all know, and yes the bet for real money i did was with 5dimes, it was -1 and the odds were -134, but again that was for -1 AND ASIAN Handicap at 5DIMES

Ok lets just forget the fact you said that 'at the time when you placed the bet odds were 1.76', not 1.44.

You played the -1AH for -134 ($1.75) at 5dimes with real money right, which points to the fact that the ML was indeed in the area of $1.44.
How do you go from getting -1AH @- 134 / $1.75, to getting -2AH @$4.

Price seems way off doesn't it? I'm sure it was a bad line eh?

Answer that and I'll shut up, promise.

[doublej95]

showtime you might as well accept the fact that Roxxy is a huge lier and craves attention. I'm not sure you was around when Roxxy lied about playing in the WSOP this year.

[Roxxyfish]

double jizz you better stop calling me a liar i promise you will not like the action, better be careful, stop it or you have to face the messures,i already have talked that over with some higher ups,and believe me this time Shari will not save your ass

showtime you might as well accept the fact that Roxxy is a huge lier and craves attention. I'm not sure you was around when Roxxy lied about playing in the WSOP this year.

[ngates815]

lol...roxxy is such a liar.


Carry on with the sweet contest.

[Roxxyfish]

Ok lets just forget the fact you said that 'at the time when you placed the bet odds were 1.76', not 1.44.

You played the -1AH for -134 ($1.75) at 5dimes with real money right, which points to the fact that the ML was indeed in the area of $1.44.
How do you go from getting -1AH @- 134 / $1.75, to getting -2AH @$4.

Price seems way off doesn't it? I'm sure it was a bad line eh?

Answer that and I'll shut up, promise.

what a question -1AH was 5dimes -2AH was Bet365 ffs

[doublej95]

double jizz you better stop calling me a liar i promise you will not like the action, better be careful, stop it or you have to face the messures,i already have talked that over with some higher ups,and believe me this time Shari will not save your ass

yeah ok. stop being a lier and I will not call you one. talked to higher ups

[showtiime]

showtime you might as well accept the fact that Roxxy is a huge lier and craves attention. I'm not sure you was around when Roxxy lied about playing in the WSOP this year.

I had gathered that and accepted it, I just want him to fess up.
Looks like it won't happen no matter what, basically fighting a lost cause.

Wasn't around for WSOP thing, sounds funny.

[Roxxyfish]

yeah ok. stop being a lier and I will not call you one. talked to higher ups

exactly someone tried yesterday to call me a cheater at SBR Poker, I talked this things over with "higher ups",the guy from yesterday also doesnt liked it, believe me Shari cannot help you this time be careful

[showtiime]

what a question -1AH was 5dimes -2AH was Bet365 ffs

Whatever fish sticks, you never got $4 -2AH at bet365, I live there. That was the price for them to clear the -2, not AH. You know that, I know that, you're a fraud, end of story.

I'm not going through all the BS again.
You're dreaming and sounds like you have been caught out before, real trustworthy cat you are.

Liars never win.

I'm out.

[doublej95]

exactly someone tried yesterday to call me a cheater at SBR Poker, I talked this things over with "higher ups",the guy from yesterday also doesnt liked it, believe me Shari cannot help you this time be careful

You must be real proud of yourself running to a mod every time you get your feelings hurt by someone. You are what 45 years old, you should have some thicker skin than that.

And here is a factoid for you. The amount of times I have asked Shari to help or save me. ZERO.

[BebeRebozo]

Kindergarten

[Wordsworth]

[Wesley]

[Gee]

lying POS roxy. go away.

[Boxing Champ]

Showtime..I appreciate the fact that you are trying to keep this challenge fair, if in fact that's what your intentions are. You have to look at it from my point of view.There is no way I can keep track of every single bet and every single odds that he plays(and he plays a lot of games).I check his picks here and there when I have time.I have to take his word for it and rely on a fact that he is an honest dude with have no reason to believe that he has cheated me yet. .Weather he cheated or not, it will probably not make a difference already...because it can't be proven. If he wins or loses this challenge, it will not be because of that $32.
No need for you to get upset and stressed over it. if he's a lier and a cheat..I'm sure it will come up down the road anyway, If he's not than all this will be forgotten. Lets just see what happens..
Thanks for paying attention and trying to keep this challenge fair..

[showtiime]

what a question -1AH was 5dimes -2AH was Bet365 ffs

Hey fish sticks, I thought you would continue on with this BS thinking it would just be your word against mine on the prices. Did you really have to drag it out this much by getting completely embarrassed instead of just admitting you're lying? Well I just had a nice sleep and when I woke up seeing that BC had still not quite put 2 and 2 together, I thought what the hell, I've come this far, might as well bury this guy once and for all.

As you know, if you are signed up with bet365, they have a log of all the info on past events / prices, and this information is obtainable within a certain time frame, considering the game was only 3 days ago I thought 'why not give some cold hard evidence because this joker likes playing tit for tat'.

& so I decided, while being bored, that I would not let it die here with 'your word against mine'.

Here is a little conversation I had on live chat not too long ago.

You are now chatting with Daniel.
Daniel Hello. I am looking into the query for you now, please hold one moment.
Daniel Please confirm the game in question?
Jason the game in question was 'Kidderminster vs Hayes & Yeading', in the Blue Square Premier League in England
Daniel Yes we keep a log of this but you would be required to email in to obtain this information.
Daniel Our email address is support-eng@customerservices365.com.
Jason ok sure, so if I send an email to that address querying the opening or highest odds for the ML and asian handicap -2 on kidderminster, you'll provide this?
Daniel Yes we can obtain this information if you require this.
Jason would i be able to call and obtain it, I've typed enough today and would be much easier over the phone
Jason or the only way is by that email?
Daniel Yes you are able to call if you wish.
Jason ok great, the number?
Jason is it just the usual toll free one
Daniel 08000 288 365 and select option 2.
Jason Ok I think thats the UK number, no problem I will just call the international one
Jason thanks you've been very helpful
Daniel Thank you for contacting bet365 Live Chat today.

Now BC, referring to your last post - I was never upset/angry regarding the issue, I was actually enjoying slowly exposing this guy, I felt like with every reply he was cowering and not addressing what I had been saying, but when you know you're speaking the truth and you don't even have 1% doubt, then I guess the natural instinct in you is to not quit until there is 0% doubt in everyone else's mind, along with yourself. Why I would bother with all this if I was not 100% certain is beyond me.

Anyway, I called the number to finally set the record straight and the question was asked and it took the guy a couple of minutes to find the information but boy was I happy when he took me off hold, and provided me with the facts I already knew, and I quote "The highest price for the Kidderminster ML was $1.50, and the highest price on the -2AH market was $3.35"

Which is pretty much spot on with what I said in my first post on this whole thing that the ML price at most books couldn't be higher than $1.50 because I was monitoring the odds for the game that whole day.

He then went on to question me why I sought this information and was it relating to a bet I had placed, so I told him the truth - it was to prove a guy that was lying through his teeth on a price he got on the -2AH and I just wanted to get some evidence and this was the only way to leave him with no other option but to accept he was lying. He actually laughed and said "I know someone like that, compulsive liar" we had a bit of a chuckle.
I asked him to email me the topic of our conversation just to sink this clown a little deeper and he was more than happy to oblige.

support-eng@customerservices365.com
6:10 PM (38 minutes ago)

to me
Your email to us has been assigned tracking number: - Please do not remove.

Dear Mr ---------,

Further to our conversation just, I can confirm the largest price available on Kidderminster -2 on the Asian Handicap was 3.35; the largest price on Kidderminster on the Full Time Result was 1.50.

If you require any further assistance in regard to this or any other matter, please do not hesitate to contact us. Our team are available 24 hours a day by Live Chat, via email support-eng@customerservices365.com, or call +44 1782 684757 and we will be pleased to assist you. Please include your username and four digit security number on all future responses.

Kind regards,

Rich J
The bet365 Team

Wow, finally! What an effort on my behalf , at last there is no where for you to run, no where to hide, no excuse you can give.
You flat out lied and cheated, I bet you're now wishing that you didn't respond and just went with the silent treatment - your initial tactic. I would've given up in the end and just left it for other people to decide.

You really are dumb buddy, everything I said in all my previous posts is justified by the guys at bet365.
I guess you took me for some 'non-pro' newbie who wouldn't press on once he called you out.

In the end, it took well over an hour of my life, I'd like some of that back please, 100 points would be sufficient. At the end of the day it was all worth it, just great to know I've exposed one of the biggest frauds on here, seems like he has done this before / has a reputation for doing so and people couldn't be bothered digging as much as I did.

You lied to the wrong person buddy.
Enjoy the extra flaming you'll cop on top of what you already receive for being a bad capper.
Updating that pick now might save this sham contest but from your point of view, it's far too late.

Feel free to change and twist anything you said, but anyone with half a brain will realize it's another feeble and pathetic attempt to get out of a hole you've dug so deeply for yourself.

[rfr3sh]

[BebeRebozo]

We need more people like you.

[showtiime]

[Roxxyfish]

what a tool,nice story bro, now get a life, how manyhours doyou worked on that "evidence"again why shoud i do that for 30$ ?? is beyond me and like BC said the challenge will sure not decided in the behalf of 30$, keep on writinf copying pasting,you are a frustraded young lad it seems

[doublej95]

be careful showtiime, Roxxy doe's not like to be exposed and proven he is a lier and fake. he will cry and report you.

[Roxxyfish]

one game form Turkey added, starts in 5 Minutes, its 10AM your time i guess

game no started starts in 33 minutes from now, its 11AM then i guess

[showtiime]

what a tool,nice story bro, now get a life, how manyhours doyou worked on that "evidence"again why shoud i do that for 30$ ?? is beyond me and like BC said the challenge will sure not decided in the behalf of 30$, keep on writinf copying pasting,you are a frustraded young lad it seems

Nice dodging there, just as I expected, you almost had a heart attack when you read that email didn't you, didn't think someone would go to all that trouble to expose you?

I was going to let it rest since it was obvious you were never going to own up, but when BC couldn't figure out whether you were cheating or not, I just had to go that little extra and contact bet365 myself.

That part only took 5 minutes, I'm not a slow airhead like you.
Also, if BC doesn't mind I will forward that email to him, how would I forge that then el-cheato?

I can't believe you're STILL denying it, after all that, read it idiot, if you would like I will post a screenshot of the email in here, oh wait, I'll probably somehow photoshop that right?

God you're pathetic. Just own up.

Screenshot coming if you don't.

[Roxxyfish]

do whatever you want buddy
again call me whatever you want,but fact is i am the best soccer capper and no one is even close, i would crush a Mickey Mouse like you in every contest,and thats what makes you mad, and you know it

Nice dodging there, just as I expected, you almost had a heart attack when you read that email didn't you, didn't think someone would go to all that trouble to expose you?

I was going to let it rest since it was obvious you were never going to own up, but when BC couldn't figure out whether you were cheating or not, I just had to go that little extra and contact bet365 myself.

That part only took 5 minutes, I'm not a slow airhead like you.
Also, if BC doesn't mind I will forward that email to him, how would I forge that then el-cheato?

I can't believe you're STILL denying it, after all that, read it idiot, if you would like I will post a screenshot of the email in here, oh wait, I'll probably somehow photoshop that right?

God you're pathetic. Just own up.

Screenshot coming if you don't.

[MartinBlank]

Is Roxxy the guy who told everyone he was playing the WSOP?

Is this the same guy?

[doublej95]

Is Roxxy the guy who told everyone he was playing the WSOP?

Is this the same guy?

yep same one and the best soccer capper in the world.

[doublej95]

Roxxy I'm having a hard time finding the Bursaspor -3 @ 4.25 do you think you could point it out for me.

[showtiime]

he doesn't know the difference from an AH or a straight handicap.

[showtiime]

Looks like someone was busted twice, it's funny because you're so conniving yet dumb at the same time.
Why do exactly what I was ranting about for the past day, pretty much straight after you offer no excuse for the sh*t I pulled you up on before?

What a dumbas-s.