NJ Removes 2 Key Provisions Of Sports Betting Bill In Hopes Of Getting It Approved

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    NJ Removes 2 Key Provisions Of Sports Betting Bill In Hopes Of Getting It Approved
    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and state Sen. Ray Lesniak walk different sides of the street on most issues. Christie is an in-your-face conservative Republican who likes nothing better than ripping teachers unions and other public-service employees, and Lesniak is a liberal Democrat who has among other things spent decades advocating for the rights of state employees.

    But oil and water will have to mix as the state moves toward a court challenge to the federal law which limits unfettered sports betting to Nevada and more-limited wagering in Oregon, Montana and Delaware. And Lesniak has made the first move, removing two key provisions from legislation that would to take the choke chains off state lawyers in an expected 2012 legal challenge.

    In order to make placate Christie and pre-empt a veto that would cripple the bill and set back efforts for months, if not longer, Lesniak and other co-sponsors have agreed to delete portions of the bill that would allow placing of bets from home computers or smartphones.

    The move may actually be a sign that the Christie and Lesniak camps are talking. Last March Christie vetoed Lesniak-backed legislation that would have made New Jersey the first state in the country to sanction online gambling. Perhaps this time Christie at least sent word to Lesniak that he needed to prune the sports betting bill; if so, it would be a sign of cooperation.

    Lesniak had hoped to have the bill signed by Christmas, but now a vote is expected on Jan. 9 on the revised plan.

    Last month voters set the legislation in motion via referendum by overwhelmingly (65-35) backing a state challenge to the 1992 Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act -- spearheaded, ironically, by then-N.J. Sen. Bill Bradley.
  • ACoochy
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-19-09
    • 13949

    #2
    Hang tight Coach. Common sense will prevail soon enough...
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      I have no need for this

      Not driving to place bets
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      • prop
        SBR MVP
        • 09-04-07
        • 1073

        #4
        Isn't the Costa Rican Gaming Control Board based in New Jersey? I don't see the problem if online sites from Costa Rica are already being regulated from with in the state. I say fire that shit up, launch a few New Jersey ones and let JJ and other board members sort out the regulation part.
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        • jjaycuny
          SBR MVP
          • 07-01-11
          • 1617

          #5
          Thought you didn't care about NJ sports betting JJ? What happened to "Fuk NJ, it's a dump."
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          • alling
            SBR MVP
            • 05-13-10
            • 1405

            #6
            They got rid of the online provision.
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            • Sportsbetting123
              SBR MVP
              • 03-01-08
              • 1400

              #7
              This would help Atlantic City big time.
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              • Reload
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-23-08
                • 12250

                #8
                Originally posted by Sportsbetting123
                This would help Atlantic City big time.
                Atlantic City and The Big M could both use the boost
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                • BrianLaverty
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-02-07
                  • 2183

                  #9
                  Would Love to see this happen.... I'd be making the 4-hour trip to new jersey at least twice a month.
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                  • Bluehorseshoe
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-13-06
                    • 15003

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BrianLaverty
                    Would Love to see this happen.... I'd be making the 4-hour trip to new jersey at least twice a month.
                    Why??
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                    • Seattle Slew
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-02-06
                      • 7373

                      #11
                      Best they'll ever get is a sports lottery, similar to Delaware.

                      Feds will never allow sports betting, even at a NJ casino. Never.
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                      • Louisvillekid1
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-17-07
                        • 52143

                        #12
                        one time, they neeed to make this happen
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Race tracks would be booming again if this passes
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                          • Casperwaits
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-25-06
                            • 5042

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Seattle Slew
                            Best they'll ever get is a sports lottery, similar to Delaware. Feds will never allow sports betting, even at a NJ casino. Never.
                            This will happen without a doubt.

                            I guarantee it.

                            NJ will have full sports betting by 2015
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                            • RonPaul2008
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-08-07
                              • 6741

                              #15
                              There is no good Constitutional reason that the feds can stop states from allowing sports gambling and even less that they can allow Nevada and no other state.
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                              • BrianLaverty
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-02-07
                                • 2183

                                #16
                                Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                                There is no good Constitutional reason that the feds can stop states from allowing sports gambling and even less that they can allow Nevada and no other state.
                                Yep... this law will not hold up in the courts. Rhode Island was all about this about 5 years ago but it got pushed to the side... If it passes in New Jersey, Rhode Island will be next in line.
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                                • Casperwaits
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-25-06
                                  • 5042

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BrianLaverty
                                  Yep... this law will not hold up in the courts. Rhode Island was all about this about 5 years ago but it got pushed to the side... If it passes in New Jersey, Rhode Island will be next in line.
                                  Big difference in NJ and RI in regards to what was on the table and the provisions beforehand.

                                  NJ will be the east coast equivalent to Vegas.

                                  Take it from someone that has spoken in front of the Senate on this same topic.
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                                  • E Vincent
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 12-20-11
                                    • 47

                                    #18
                                    I heard Good ole Goldman Sachs and Cantor Fitzgerald are already moving in on the US Market of sports bettors.........
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                                    • kfranz31
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-09-10
                                      • 1186

                                      #19
                                      it will never happen vegas wont let it happen
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                                      • TodayIsForgotten
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 06-19-06
                                        • 534

                                        #20
                                        such a greedy world we live in. If they don't allow it because of vegas. You'd have to be dumb not to realize more people would take advantage of this if you could bet from a computer or smartphone. So dumb.
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                                        • Preston09
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-19-09
                                          • 1834

                                          #21
                                          Can't wait!!!!!
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                                          • BrianLaverty
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-02-07
                                            • 2183

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Casperwaits
                                            Big difference in NJ and RI in regards to what was on the table and the provisions beforehand.

                                            NJ will be the east coast equivalent to Vegas.

                                            Take it from someone that has spoken in front of the Senate on this same topic.
                                            Oh yeah.. I agree.... Rhode island never went through with it at all.... but if new jersey gets approved.... you get the feeling Rhode island will try to duplicate it. The states in big trouble with mass approving casinos and I've heard they would seriously pursue it.
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                                            • MartinBlank
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-20-08
                                              • 8382

                                              #23
                                              AC will be basking in cash if this gets through the courts. Imagine you're an east coast guy (Philly, NYC)---and it's opening weekend of March Madness or the first weekend of College Football? Load up--- head off to AC, and have an incredible weekend.
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                                              • Extra Innings
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-26-10
                                                • 15058

                                                #24
                                                What a ridiculous opening paragraph. How much are you paying in property taxes, you probably get the low end in that dump you call Clifton, 7-8k/ year It's about 15k in middle income neighborhoods. People are leaving in droves
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                                                • Leo Bello
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 09-23-11
                                                  • 267

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  I have no need for this

                                                  Not driving to place bets
                                                  JJ, I read this last week in one of the papers (I think Phila Inquirer, or PhillyNews). I don't think it is a big deal for now. Like putting an enormous cart before two small horses. It will be an uphill battle as it is to get the bill passed and okayed but not impossible. Let's get the bill passed, then we can worry about these other things. They made a smart move, in my opinion.
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                                                  • Salmon Steak
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-05-10
                                                    • 2110

                                                    #26
                                                    call up that politician and make a video. Say you have an entire website of voters who want online gambling decriminalized.
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                                                    • andywend
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-20-07
                                                      • 4805

                                                      #27
                                                      Christie is an in-your-face conservative Republican who likes nothing better than ripping teachers unions and other public-service employees
                                                      Unions have no place in our educational system or anywhere in the public sector.

                                                      How can politicians be so right on target when it comes to getting rid of labor unions while at the same time being so wrong about online gambling?
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        It would be weird to go to the Meadowland and place sports bets

                                                        Place would be mobbed
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                                                        • princecharles
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 11-22-10
                                                          • 827

                                                          #29
                                                          If and when the perfect storm of political necessity, money from the right people, and an environment of heavy upside down state budgets occurs......well big things have come to fruition over alot less in history.
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                                                          • pacers101
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 03-07-11
                                                            • 603

                                                            #30
                                                            so what happens to the local mob bookies?
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                                                            • LVHerbie
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-15-05
                                                              • 6344

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by kfranz31
                                                              it will never happen vegas wont let it happen
                                                              Ignoring that Nevada has little say in the issue I can't see why Vegas would care if sports betting was legal in NJ... For the most part the casinos there see sports books as a loss leader and it has be a minuscule percentage of the people that live in Vegas or visit strictly based on access to sports betting and an even smaller number who would opt for New Jersey's books over Nevada's...
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                                                              • Leo Bello
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 09-23-11
                                                                • 267

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                It would be weird to go to the Meadowland and place sports bets

                                                                Place would be mobbed
                                                                No doubt about that!
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