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  • billysink
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    • 03-29-09
    • 5172

    #36
    Begger brings up a great point. The Seattle offense has been game planned on a "run first" mentality since Tavaris went down with a pec injury earlier this year. And quite simply put running against that 3/4 set against San Fran is probably a slow ticket to no where. In my mind Isaac Sapoago is the best NT in the league this year. They can continue to pound Lynch all they want. They are going to be facing some third and long here.

    So how are they going to solve that problem. Wideouts Mike Williams (IR, broken leg), Sidney Rice (IR, concussion) are done. Leading receiver Doug Baldwin (ankle) who has not yet practiced this week including today, may not be an option. Golden Tate and that Obamanu guy probably don't scare San Fran any more than they do you and I. If Zach Miller is your answer he shouldn't be against some of the most active sideline to sideline linebackers in the biz. Willis or no Willis.

    If Tavaris has no one to stretch it out for him he is as dead in the water with his limited skill set as dead can be.

    Seattle's o-line has been completely revamped due to injuries in the last 4 weeks and will face its stiffest test since then.

    Answer this.

    How does Seattle score here???? Lynch against the run D of San Fran, with potentially an extra player (SS) in the box is not the right answer.

    ________________________________________ ________

    Seattle is tough as nails defensively as well and only slightly less stellar against the run. They have probably the best safety tandem in the league right now with Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor.

    The Niners have a full arsenal of weapons available. Vernon Davis, Crabtree and Braylon Edwards who will play, are far superior personnel than anyone the Hawks can field. Of concern is the likely absence of LT Joe Staley and Tedd Ginn.

    I think it is quite possible that the difference in this one is whoever has the ability to conquer third and long because we will see a lot of it in this one. With the personnel available I have to give the edge to San Fran.

    The under looks good at first glance but with these two stellar defenses and Leon Washington returning kicks we may see some bonus points here. I would need another point to get off the key.

    Good luck with whatever you guys decide.

    Happy Holidays!!!
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    • t-wizzle
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 12-18-09
      • 38099

      #37
      Originally posted by billysink
      Begger brings up a great point. The Seattle offense has been game planned on a "run first" mentality since Tavaris went down with a pec injury earlier this year. And quite simply put running against that 3/4 set against San Fran is probably a slow ticket to no where. In my mind Isaac Sapoago is the best NT in the league this year. They can continue to pound Lynch all they want. They are going to be facing some third and long here.

      So how are they going to solve that problem. Wideouts Mike Williams (IR, broken leg), Sidney Rice (IR, concussion) are done. Leading receiver Doug Baldwin (ankle) who has not yet practiced this week including today, may not be an option. Golden Tate and that Obamanu guy probably don't scare San Fran any more than they do you and I. If Zach Miller is your answer he shouldn't be against some of the most active sideline to sideline linebackers in the biz. Willis or no Willis.

      If Tavaris has no one to stretch it out for him he is as dead in the water with his limited skill set as dead can be.

      Seattle's o-line has been completely revamped due to injuries in the last 4 weeks and will face its stiffest test since then.

      Answer this.

      How does Seattle score here???? Lynch against the run D of San Fran, with potentially an extra player (SS) in the box is not the right answer.

      ________________________________________ ________

      Seattle is tough as nails defensively as well and only slightly less stellar against the run. They have probably the best safety tandem in the league right now with Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor.

      The Niners have a full arsenal of weapons available. Vernon Davis, Crabtree and Braylon Edwards who will play, are far superior personnel than anyone the Hawks can field. Of concern is the likely absence of LT Joe Staley and Tedd Ginn.

      I think it is quite possible that the difference in this one is whoever has the ability to conquer third and long because we will see a lot of it in this one. With the personnel available I have to give the edge to San Fran.

      The under looks good at first glance but with these two stellar defenses and Leon Washington returning kicks we may see some bonus points here. I would need another point to get off the key.

      Good luck with whatever you guys decide.

      Happy Holidays!!!
      Lot of good points.

      Let's face it. This is going to be a tough grind it out game. I'll take the home team though especially with the 49ers on a short week after a big win against the Steelers.
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      • Jutzu
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-24-10
        • 949

        #38
        Let's go 49ers

        19-12 49ers!
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        • baskets
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-24-11
          • 11691

          #39
          tavaris jackson will fock you in the ass
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          • k13
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            • 07-16-10
            • 18130

            #40
            Originally posted by ParlayJunkie
            False. Kurt Warner does not play for the Cardinals anymore.
            Cards to playoffs +1000
            Seahawks to playoffs +1400
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            • t-wizzle
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-18-09
              • 38099

              #41
              Originally posted by k13

              Cards to playoffs +1000
              Seahawks to playoffs +1400
              Seattle plays AT Arizona in Week 17.
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              • MidgetTossers
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                • 11-06-09
                • 13376

                #42
                i really think the niners lose this one too twizzer but im having a real hard time pulling the trigger on it..this game means an awful lot for both teams but that seattle crowd is insane and will play a factor..lynch is a tough runner but nobody runs on the niners...hard for me to put my money on tavaris though...i will most likely pass on this game but gun to my head..seattle wins...i hope i am dead wrong though
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                • baskets
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                  • 11-24-11
                  • 11691

                  #43
                  you are overanalizing this big-time

                  Tavaris Jackson will fock you in the ass when you put your cold hard cash on the Hawks.

                  it is the giant X-factor fuckign staring right at you. after the game ends you'll be fuckign kicking yourself if you bet the Hawks
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                  • Cutler'sThumb
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 12-06-11
                    • 287

                    #44
                    I'm nobody (or maybe I'm Joe Public), but this game seems to be over-analyzed. I'm Chicago guy and the Bears are one of the worst teams in the league as currently construed. Yes Seattle beat the Bears, but they don't really have any impressive wins recently if you ask me (ravens to some extent, but they have proven that can lay eggs on the road). I think their run stats are a bit padded because they've jumped on some bad teams early which put the run in the back seat for those teams. The Bears had no trouble running on Seattle for most of that game, and Seattle knew it was coming. Hanie just threw his way out of the NFL at our expense.

                    Hardbaugh is too much of a red-ass to allow the Niners let down. Good defense doesn't need as much rest as good offense, in my opinion, and that D (minus Willis) made the Steelers look terrible. Aldon Smith anyone? I saw him toss 345lb Max Stark to the side like a rag doll and go sit on Big Ben's head.

                    All Niners in this one.
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                    • baskets
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-24-11
                      • 11691

                      #45
                      exactly. and if they made Big Ben eat the turf and threw him to the ground, what will they do to Tavaris Jackson?

                      oh boy, some people bout to get bamboozled on this one.
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                      • minnis2winnis
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 09-26-11
                        • 26

                        #46
                        With where the line is at on this one, is the best play a 6 pt teaser ..... SF +4.5 under 43.5? Close low scoring game, I like the math anyways.
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                        • GunShard
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                          • 03-05-10
                          • 10033

                          #47
                          Can Lynch even get through the 49ers defense?
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                          • TheBet
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                            • 02-07-10
                            • 395

                            #48
                            When looking at it from a statistical standpoint, the 49ers laying 1 point is a gift, no doubt about it. They have the best rushing defense in the NFL; and will easily bottle up Lynch and the Seattle running attack. This will force Seattle to open up the passing game, putting the game in the hands of T. Jackson. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to lay down my hard earn cash on Jackson, but that's just me.

                            However, the 49ers are coming off an extremely short week (Monday Night Football then Saturday). When the 49ers played the Ravens on Thursday night, they looked extremely flat; however, they we're traveling all the way to the east coast. Keep in mind however, that they are going to Seattle (who's hot right now, and have an extremely loud home field advantage). Furthermore, the 49ers might be flat from their MNF win versus the Steelers on prime time. They had that game marked on their calender since early November and are in a prime spot for a let down.

                            Personally, I'd lay off this game fellas.
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                            • baskets
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-24-11
                              • 11691

                              #49
                              Originally posted by TheBet
                              When looking at it from a statistical standpoint, the 49ers laying 1 point is a gift, no doubt about it. They have the best rushing defense in the NFL; and will easily bottle up Lynch and the Seattle running attack. This will force Seattle to open up the passing game, putting the game in the hands of T. Jackson. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to lay down my hard earn cash on Jackson, but that's just me. However, the 49ers are coming off an extremely short week (Monday Night Football then Saturday). When the 49ers played the Ravens on Thursday night, they looked extremely flat; however, they we're traveling all the way to the east coast. Keep in mind however, that they are going to Seattle (who's hot right now, and have an extremely loud home field advantage). Furthermore, the 49ers might be flat from their MNF win versus the Steelers on prime time. They had that game marked on their calender since early November and are in a prime spot for a let down. Personally, I'd lay off this game fellas.
                              you just saved yourself a bloody asshole, sir



                              ONE WORD: TAVARIS

                              need not say more.
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                              • TheBet
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 02-07-10
                                • 395

                                #50
                                Patrick Willis looks like he's probable for the game.
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                                • innn
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                                  • 08-31-10
                                  • 492

                                  #51
                                  I taking the Glorious UNDER 37.5 that got me money with Colts-Texans as well, Good Luck guys
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                                  • 4seasons
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-04-11
                                    • 1793

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                    The Seahawks have kept things simple on offense and it's working. Lots of running and play action.
                                    They got a simple minded coach, who'll get schooled today
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                                    • gimpy
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-17-10
                                      • 510

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                      The Seahawks have kept things simple on offense and it's working. Lots of running and play action.
                                      Sure, Marshawn Lynch is a baller... but you can't run the ball very well on San Fransisco.
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                                      • t-wizzle
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 12-18-09
                                        • 38099

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by gimpy

                                        Sure, Marshawn Lynch is a baller... but you can't run the ball very well on San Fransisco.
                                        Might be a little easier this week on short rest.
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                                        • LT Profits
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                                          • 10-27-06
                                          • 90963

                                          #55
                                          I teased Seattle to +7.5 myself (with Carolina -1, Saints -0.5)
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                                          • GunShard
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                                            • 03-05-10
                                            • 10033

                                            #56
                                            Anyone remember Week 1?

                                            San Francisco 33
                                            Seattle 17

                                            covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nfl/results/2011-2012/boxscore29353.html

                                            Lynch only got 33 yards in that game. Beast mode my ass.
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                                            • LT Profits
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                                              • 10-27-06
                                              • 90963

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by GunShard
                                              Anyone remember Week 1?

                                              San Francisco 33
                                              Seattle 17

                                              covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nfl/results/2011-2012/boxscore29353.html

                                              Lynch only got 33 yards in that game. Beast mode my ass.
                                              Yeah but that was a tight game (really a 2-point game), Lynch and his team are on fire right now and the 49ers have clinched and are coming off of their biggest game in many years. All of that said, I am only confident in tease and not Seattle straight.
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                                              • shawnjohn5
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-13-10
                                                • 836

                                                #58
                                                I would stay away from this game personally, the niners strength is their run d and this is a huge game for them!! They will be ready for Seattle, I don't get how people can still consistently bet against this niner team! I'm not saying they will cover every game but geez, why would u keep betting against these guys?? Plenty of other games on the board giants should roll and the titans are in pines position hy in the world would you bet t jazz and the hawks against the niners?! Huh????
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                                                • mcmc
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 09-09-09
                                                  • 765

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by GunShard
                                                  Anyone remember Week 1?

                                                  San Francisco 33
                                                  Seattle 17

                                                  covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nfl/results/2011-2012/boxscore29353.html

                                                  Lynch only got 33 yards in that game. Beast mode my ass.
                                                  The Niners pulled away late with two Ginn kick returns. That game had flat offense on both sides.
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                                                  • Mr. Kite!
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 12-17-11
                                                    • 28

                                                    #60
                                                    Anyone who says the Seahawks are playing great football clearly didn't watch the MNF game against the Rams. The Seahawks are a sloppy team with a mediocre QB. Their last 3 wins are against the Eagles with Vince Young (who threw 4 picks), the Rams (self explanatory), and the Caleb Hanie Bears (they haven't won a game yet with him). Before that they lost to the Redskins at home. The 49ers on the other hand just held the Steelers to 3 points. This is an easy pick, don't overthink it.
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                                                    • Demonata
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                                                      • 07-12-11
                                                      • 26578

                                                      #61
                                                      San Francisco -1 is the pick today. Seattle still is not good and forcing Jackson to win with the pass. HAHAHAHAHAHA
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                                                      • k13
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                                                        • 07-16-10
                                                        • 18130

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                        Yeah but that was a tight game (really a 2-point game), Lynch and his team are on fire right now and the 49ers have clinched and are coming off of their biggest game in many years. All of that said, I am only confident in tease and not Seattle straight.
                                                        Game was not tight. Niners were dominating. 16-0 at the half. Seahawks got some garbage lucky points to make it look like it was close then Ginn took off.

                                                        Either way, Week 1 has no bearing on Week 16.

                                                        Rarely do you see a line that is off by this much. Either a big trap or a big gift by Vegas.
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                                                        • LT Profits
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                                                          • 10-27-06
                                                          • 90963

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by k13
                                                          Game was not tight. Niners were dominating. 16-0 at the half. Seahawks got some garbage lucky points to make it look like it was close then Ginn took off.

                                                          Either way, Week 1 has no bearing on Week 16.

                                                          Rarely do you see a line that is off by this much. Either a big trap or a big gift by Vegas.
                                                          I don't think line is off, it is just right. That why tease to 7.5 is good. If a line is off, you just play it straight.
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                                                          • k13
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                                                            • 07-16-10
                                                            • 18130

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                            I don't think line is off, it is just right. That why tease to 7.5 is good. If a line is off, you just play it straight.
                                                            Niners are 8 points better so yes it is off.

                                                            I guess you missed the +9 tease? Lot of points for a game like this.
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                                                            • LT Profits
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                                                              • 10-27-06
                                                              • 90963

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by k13
                                                              Niners are 8 points better so yes it is off.

                                                              I guess you missed the +9 tease? Lot of points for a game like this.
                                                              You have to factor in 49ers clinched and letdown spot after home MNF statement game. If game was meaningful to both teams, 49ers would be -4 or -4.5, so 8 points better seems pretty close yeah.
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                                                              • LT Profits
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                                                                • 10-27-06
                                                                • 90963

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by k13
                                                                I guess you missed the +9 tease?
                                                                Teasers are one of the few bets where you actually WANT efficient lines, so best to wait for game day
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                                                                • zoo youk
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                                                                  • 10-23-11
                                                                  • 10701

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Aldon Smith baby!

                                                                  also theres this..you know Harbaugh has this posted in the team locker room...

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                                                                  • k13
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                                                                    • 07-16-10
                                                                    • 18130

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                    You have to factor in 49ers clinched and letdown spot after home MNF statement game. If game was meaningful to both teams, 49ers would be -4 or -4.5, so 8 points better seems pretty close yeah.
                                                                    Yeah I agree. Makes for an interesting game.
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                                                                    • rockhardfister
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                                                                      • 11-27-08
                                                                      • 1037

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                                      49ers are still going for the 2 seed so this game will be important. My money is on Seattle at home though.
                                                                      Any chance Seattle can be eliminated by game time? Dont think so.
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                                                                      • t-wizzle
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                                                                        • 12-18-09
                                                                        • 38099

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by GunShard
                                                                        Anyone remember Week 1?

                                                                        San Francisco 33
                                                                        Seattle 17

                                                                        covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nfl/results/2011-2012/boxscore29353.html

                                                                        Lynch only got 33 yards in that game. Beast mode my ass.
                                                                        We are now in Week 16.
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