Another Tebow thread

[blackbeSSt]

Including 8-5 Detroit, their opponents are 47-57, but 46-50 when factoring out the Tebow games (I forgot that part). That's not that bad.

yes, but y'all keep missing my point. detroit actually has a decent qb. the other teams that i listed do not. short arm rivers is starting to get back to form but he's no where as good as he was

[Love The Action]

Question to those who say Tebow won't be Denver's starting QB next season?

Who will be starting?

The guys named free agency and draft. It doesn't matter, when a qb struggles or gets hurt (which is very possible with Tebow running 20x per gm), you go to the backup whoever that might be.

If Tebow had played like this and they lost a few of these close games, both the fans and Elway would be clammoring to bench the guy. Believe me, Elway is looking for the first opprtunity to get rid of Tebow because he doesn't fit Elways vision of the team he wants to out together. The only reason tebow hasnt been benched is the winning. Had they lost a few, you would see Quinn right now. Elway never believed this would happen and was hoping that Tebow would be exposed and he could go get his guy. Tebow is not Elways guy.

[Sam Odom]

Merry Christmas...

God Bless us , Every One!

[No coincidences]

Merry Christmas...

God Bless us , Every One!

And Thank God football keeps guys like Robert Griffin III off the streets.

Amen.

[Jago2008]

I was at the Chargers game @ San Diego, where Denver beat us in Overtime.

Tim Tebow again was horrible for basically the 1st half. Then the Chargers went into that vanilla zone defense before halftime only to allow what seemed like an easy TD for the Broncos. The Chargers held the ball most of the 1st half rushed for over 80 yards and only came away with 10points.

There's something about that Denver team that wears down opposing teams. And it seems anytime Tebow is in need for a last minute TD, defenses stop rushing 5-6 men, and fall into that zone, "prevent" defense.

I don't attribute the Chargers downfall to some "curse"; but the players and coaching have no accountability in San Diego, if this was another city, coaching changes would have been made, and players would be held to a different standard.

With that said, its almost as if Tebow's gameplay luls defenses into a state of passivity only to be punched in the face when in matters.

There was a feeling amongst Chargers fans as we watched, as the game was still close that the Broncos were gaining momentum, and seemingly every mistake the Chargers made, the Broncos capitalized on.

It just seems that his Broncos teammates are buying into his humility and unwavering spirit. One can only have respect for him at this point, and hope that this ridiculous nature in which they're winning games comes to a crashing halt (Charger fan in me hoping for that outcome).

Its ridiculous... almost miraculous what Tebow has done in these last 7 games. 3 OT wins

[poochiecollins]

Point seen. Denver would be a 2,3 win team with Orton. C'mon though, this isn't an easy situation. You have to see that

Dude, it's like watching a movie every week. Against Chicago, even after watching recent Tebow games, I thought they were dead late. Two minute warning passed, no timeouts left, Chicago first down. I said in another thread at that point that God appeared to be letting them play it out. And then.............

[Sam Odom]

And Thank God football keeps guys like Robert Griffin III off the streets.

That question I posed to you in that thread is still eating away at your moral fiber I see... BTW- you didnt have the guts to answer

[SportsMushroom]

so a 2-10 record isn't bad? or winless miami team at the time isn't bad? both of which have ok qb's at best?

so why are the vikings and the dolphins bad teams because they have losing records

but the jets, with a winning record are not respectively a good team? is it because it hurts you that tebow beat them?


also you didnt get the point I was trying to make, either because you dont have the capacity to, or because you dont want to


the record doesnt matter, at the end of the day, some teams have to win and some teams have to lose, what separates nfl teams is very little

evidence? most teams lose on details and technicalities, last week the dolphins lost to dallas by a last second field goal, this week minnesota lost to the lions on a last second missed call by the referee, yesterday the patriots won on a last second interference call in the end zone

this is the nfl, little to nothing separates teams, despite their records, and you cant say an nfl team is bad


tebow has already beat 7 teams and you've already branded them as bad

all teams are bad except for the broncos apparently, which are so good that they can beat all these teams while playing with the qb position vacated

[blackbeSSt]

Dude, it's like watching a movie every week. Against Chicago, even after watching recent Tebow games, I thought they were dead late. Two minute warning passed, no timeouts left, Chicago first down. I said in another thread at that point that God appeared to be letting them play it out. And then.............

and then marion barber fukked up.....twice.

[poochiecollins]

a qb struggles or gets hurt (which is very possible with Tebow running 20x per gm)

Tebow has God protecting him.

its almost as if Tebow's gameplay luls defenses into a state of passivity

Yes, defenses laugh at Tebow ("defending this guy is the luls, let's relax") then God exposes their arrogant wickedness.

[stevenash]

Tebow is not Elways guy.

John Elway has made it clear he won't heap praise upon Tim Tebow just because he happens to be his team's starting quarterback.

But Elway -- the Broncos' executive vice president of football operations -- has a very pro-Tebow feeling as to why Denver continues to pull off unlikely victories like Sunday's against the Chicago Bears.

"I think when you look at it, I guess I just believe everyone believes that something good is going to happen," Elway said Monday during his weekly radio spot on KDSP-FM. "Tim's been the guy that has led that thinking and he's just such a strong believer. He's got everyone else believing that if you stay strong, stay positive, that something good is going to happen."

Elway's weekly radio spot has become a good barometer on where he stands on Tebow. Elway seemed decidedly underwhelmed by Tebow initially, but he said last week that the QB made "great strides" in a win over the Minnesota Vikings.

Now Elway is saying Tebow has transformative power on the will of teammates. Has he ever seen a player like his QB?

"No, not to this point," Elway said. "If you look at where we've been just this season and look at the impact that he has had this season, not only athletically with him running around and throwing the football, but I think that his presence has been just huge and his confidence and his competitiveness that he has, especially if you look about when we’re coming off 4-12 last year."

[blackbeSSt]

so why are the vikings and the dolphins bad teams because they have losing records

but the jets, with a winning record are not respectively a good team? is it because it hurts you that tebow beat them?


also you didnt get the point I was trying to make, either because you dont have the capacity to, or because you dont want to


the record doesnt matter, at the end of the day, some teams have to win and some teams have to lose, what separates nfl teams is very little

evidence? most teams lose on details and technicalities, last week the dolphins lost to dallas by a last second field goal, this week minnesota lost to the lions on a last second missed call by the referee, yesterday the patriots won on a last second interference call in the end zone

this is the nfl, little to nothing separates teams, despite their records, and you cant say an nfl team is bad


tebow has already beat 7 teams and you've already branded them as bad

all teams are bad except for the broncos apparently, which are so good that they can beat all these teams while playing with the qb position vacated

records don't matter? geez son you are fukkin stupid if you don't think records matter.

you're also thick in the head if you don't think that the vikes and colts aren't bad

[poochiecollins]

and then marion barber fukked up.....twice.

God was probably punishing him. He probably does coke off of hookers' asses after games. I mean, he's black... look at Africa. Is God helping that continent?

[Sam Odom]

@ poochiecollins

[poochiecollins]

yes, but y'all keep missing my point. detroit actually has a decent qb. the other teams that i listed do not. short arm rivers is starting to get back to form but he's no where as good as he was

No. The Denver Tebows have played a respectable strength of schedule according to the data I listed.

[blackbeSSt]

God was probably punishing him. He probably does coke off of hookers' asses after games. I mean, he's black... look at Africa. Is God helping that continent?

who brought religion in this thread again?

lets all just shut it and see what happens when timmy faces another team with a better then 'ok' qb this week.

No. The Denver Tebows have played a respectable strength of schedule according to the data I listed.

the records i posted above state otherwise

of the 7 wins:

matt moore--dolphins 4-9, winless at the time
carson palmer-- oakland 7-6, 4-4 at the time
matt cassel-- KC 5-8, 4-5 at the time
dirty sanchez-- NYJ 8-5, 5-5 at the time
short arm rivers-- SD 6-7, 4-7 at the time
christian ponder-- Minn 2-11, 2-10 at the time
caleb hanie-- Chi 7-6, 7-5 at the time

records of 39-55

they played 1 team that had a winning record at the time and that was yesterday.

[SportsMushroom]

records don't matter? geez son you are fukkin stupid if you don't think records matter.

thank you for proving my point, you do not have capacity to understand what I am saying



ok let me put it to you this way, if every week you bet the moneyline for the teams with the better record, would you be up or down at the end of the day? you'd be broke, which you probably are, you are probably the kind of person that bet the lions yesterday or the 49ers, or the patriots last week against the colts


you know how they say that the best team doesnt always win? well its because teams are more or less evenly matched

and most wins/losses in the nfl are within one score, because no team is that much better than the other

[Jago2008]

No. The Denver Tebows have played a respectable strength of schedule according to the data I listed.

The Denver Tebows, I like that moniker. LOL

[TheAntFather]

God was probably punishing him. He probably does coke off of hookers' asses after games. I mean, he's black... look at Africa. Is God helping that continent?

Lmaoooo

[blackbeSSt]

thank you for proving my point, you do not have capacity to understand what I am saying ok let me put it to you this way, if every week you bet the moneyline for the teams with the better record, would you be up or down at the end of the day? you'd be broke, which you probably are, you are probably the kind of person that bet the lions yesterday or the 49ers, or the patriots last week against the colts you know how they say that the best team doesnt always win? well its because teams are more or less evenly matched and most wins/losses in the nfl are within one score, because no team is that much better than the other

just yesterday, if you played the ML on teams with better records you woulda been 8-3-3 (phi/mia, sd/buff and chi/den same record as of yesterday). but 2 of those 3 the ml fave won

[TheAntFather]

Tebow is a winner. No if, ands or buts about it. Some people can't stand that he wins and want him to lose with every fiber in their soul. Sad and pathetic people.

[SportsMushroom]

just yesterday, if you played the ML on teams with better records you woulda been 8-3-3 (phi/mia, sd/buff and chi/den same record)

then you must be making a killing from gambling sir


and you know the irony in your statement?

because you count the broncos win as well

so I guess what you are saying is that the record tells us which teams are good or not, but the 8-5 broncos are no good, and the 7-1 tebow is no good


its nice for one to know the level of intellect of the person in front of them

[stevenash]

God was probably punishing him. He probably does coke off of hookers' asses after games. I mean, he's black... look at Africa. Is God helping that continent?

And has trouble pronouncing such words as 'ask' and 'teeth'

[Sam Odom]

Tebow is a winner. No if, ands or buts about it. Some people can't stand that he wins and want him to lose with every fiber in their soul. Sad and pathetic people.

i cannot understand why it is soooooo hard for some people to admit the obvious, Tebow is a winner, PERIOD

TheAntFather , their extreme dislike and sometimes hate for this kid is irrational. personally i believe it is a flaw in their personality and something lacking in the lives generating envy & jealousy

[blackbeSSt]

a quick glance at week 13 betting ML based on record woulda yielded roughly 11-4

[blackbeSSt]

then you must be making a killing from gambling sir and you know the irony in your statement? because you count the broncos win as well so I guess what you are saying is that the record tells us which teams are good or not, but the 8-5 broncos are no good, and the 7-1 tebow is no good its nice for one to know the level of intellect of the person in front of them

please, show me one post where i said THE BRONCOS ARE NOT GOOD. i'll wait patiently here.

and you're the fukktard that brought up the "records don't matter" and "you'd be broke if you bet the ML based on records" yet i have given you 2 straight weeks of winners. so you're one to talk about intellect

[letsgo]

Tebow is a winner. No if, ands or buts about it. Some people can't stand that he wins and want him to lose with every fiber in their soul. Sad and pathetic people.

That be great if he played Tennis or some other sport where winning was most important.

Why didn't he win the Detroit game? Oh that's right, football is a team sport and if your defense blows during a game then you are going to have a hard time winning.

He isn't a starting Pitcher in baseball, he can't control the whole game. If his kicker has a bad game does that make Tebow worse?

[stevenash]

He isn't a starting Pitcher in baseball, he can't control the whole game. If his kicker has a bad game does that make Tebow worse?

Baseball isn't a team game?

[SportsMushroom]

please, show me one post where i said THE BRONCOS ARE NOT GOOD. i'll wait patiently here.

you're the fukktard that brought up the "records don't matter" and "you'd be broke if you bet the ML based on records" yet i have given you 2 straight weeks of winners

so I'll ask you this, are you betting ml favorites every week and how much money have you made up to now?



I didnt say records dont matter, what I said was that records are not an indicator of the variance between the abilities of two teams, what you took from that is something simplistic such as yourself

nfl teams are all good teams, and any team can beat another on any given sunday

records simply exist to determine who will fight for the ring

[blackbeSSt]

so I'll ask you this, are you betting ml favorites every week and how much money have you made up to now? I didnt say records dont matter, what I said was that records are not an indicator of the variance between the abilities of two teams, what you took from that is something simplistic such as yourself nfl teams are all good teams, and any team can beat another on any given sunday records simply exist to determine who will fight for the ring

nope. just looked at 2 weeks and proved your ass wrong so i stopped looking

and you sure you didn't say records don't matter? post #148 if you wanna look, but i'll copy it here:

so why are the vikings and the dolphins bad teams because they have losing records but the jets, with a winning record are not respectively a good team? is it because it hurts you that tebow beat them? also you didnt get the point I was trying to make, either because you dont have the capacity to, or because you dont want to the record doesnt matter, at the end of the day, some teams have to win and some teams have to lose, what separates nfl teams is very little evidence? most teams lose on details and technicalities, last week the dolphins lost to dallas by a last second field goal, this week minnesota lost to the lions on a last second missed call by the referee, yesterday the patriots won on a last second interference call in the end zone this is the nfl, little to nothing separates teams, despite their records, and you cant say an nfl team is bad tebow has already beat 7 teams and you've already branded them as bad all teams are bad except for the broncos apparently, which are so good that they can beat all these teams while playing with the qb position vacated

[SportsMushroom]

nope. just looked at 2 weeks and proved your ass wrong so i stopped looking

and you sure you didn't say records don't matter? post #148 if you wanna look, but i'll copy it here:

if the team with the better record always won you would be betting them cause it would be profitable and you wouldnt need to look back 2 weeks cause you would just need to recite me your win/loss record, so your point is invalid


also, you quote 3 words out of 100? and that proves your point?

you quoted only 3 words because you cant understand what the other 97 mean

[blackbeSSt]

but for shits and giggles, week 12 quickly looks to be another 12-3ish just betting ml's based on record.....

if the team with the better record always won you would be betting them cause it would be profitable and you wouldnt need to look back 2 weeks cause you would just need to recite me your win/loss record, so your point is invalid


also, you quote 3 words out of 100? and that proves your point?

you quoted only 3 words because you cant understand what the other 97 mean

blah blah blah. can't back your stupid ass out of this. and who the fukk bets every game, ml or not? yet again, you aren't too bright. you asked, im researching and proving you wrong

[SportsMushroom]

but for shits and giggles, week 12 quickly looks to be another 12-3ish just betting ml's based on record.....



blah blah blah. can't back your stupid ass out of this. and who the fukk bets every game, ml or not? yet again, you aren't too bright. you asked, im researching and proving you wrong

you know what they say, you cant beat an idiot in an argument, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

you can always make your point sound valid by bending words, but you will never convince an intelligent person

[blackbeSSt]

you know what they say, you cant beat an idiot in an argument, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience you can always make your point sound valid by bending words, but you will never convince an intelligent person

what words am i bending?

and im still waiting for you to quote me where i said the broncos are not good. i'll be up a while so take your time

[TheAntFather]

That be great if he played Tennis or some other sport where winning was most important.

Why didn't he win the Detroit game? Oh that's right, football is a team sport and if your defense blows during a game then you are going to have a hard time winning.

He isn't a starting Pitcher in baseball, he can't control the whole game. If his kicker has a bad game does that make Tebow worse?

So, using your logic. It's more important to win in Tennis than it is in Football? You ask why he didn't win in Detroit? Please show me a QB that has a 100% winning percentage with atleast 10 career starts. My guess is that you can't. You're just one of the haters that try to find flaws with Tebow because you hate it when he wins a game. Yes, I know the team is important in football, but he is the QB, which is the most important position on a football team.