People trying to stick up for him r just crazy..guy cheated and got caught
If he was black everybody would be ripping the guy
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19th Hole
SBR Posting Legend
03-22-09
18964
#107
Originally posted by ehp6737
The test was done during the end of the 2011 season, not the off season. So if his appeal is denied and the results of the first test are upheld, how can they not strip him of his 2011 MVP award?
MVP is presented by the media ....NOT MLB.
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19th Hole
SBR Posting Legend
03-22-09
18964
#108
MLB players are notified that tests are coming. They try to beat
the test by cycling their chemical use.
Braun's failure to cycle properly got him busted.
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Brewers in 7
SBR MVP
01-20-10
1363
#109
Amazing how people react to a ESPN leaked story, this was not to be made public because of the 2nd negative test, but since it is ESPN's job to try to ruin people's lives with their bushleague reporting they leaked this story.. We'll see what happens at the end of the appeal process in January and see if he is innocent or not..
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neverstoppers23
SBR Hall of Famer
11-26-09
6302
#110
jsonline just put up anther story a few minutes ago, where brauns camp's appear very very confident.
"Source: Braun didn't take PED
e-mail print By Tom Haudricourt of the Journal Sentinel
Updated: Dec. 11, 2011 12:27 p.m. |(57) COMMENTS
A very good source on the Ryan Braun side of the drug testing controversy assures me that Braun did not test positive for a performance-enhancing drug, as reported by ESPN's "Outside the Lines."
ESPN reported that Braun tested positive for a PED that gave him an abnormally high testosterone level, which proved to be synthetic and therefore not produced by the body.
But my source -- and again, this is from Braun's end and not MLB -- familiar with the test's findings says the "prohibited substance" was not a performance-enhancing drug or steroid of any kind. And the source says there has "never" been a result like this in the history of the MLB testing program.
The source said MLB "knows that Ryan is telling the truth" and that source firmly believes the postive test will be overturned. Pretty amazing stuff, huh?
The source said more detail couldn't be provided at this time because of the ongoing legal process. But suffice it to say that this is getting more interesting by the minute.
If the prohibited substance Braun tested positive for was a stimulant instead of a steroid, he wouldn't be facing a 50-game suspension. The first offense for stimulants results in a 25-game suspension."
So googly eyes is a cheater. Who would have thunk it?
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neverstoppers23
SBR Hall of Famer
11-26-09
6302
#113
Originally posted by mlb
initially i was heartbroken
MLB really needs to get their shit together, if they have rules such that the players can not comment on issues pertaining this but then some how this info gets leaked to the media outlet espn, they need to find the people that did this because its unacceptable.
mlb has told braun, that they know he is telling the truth, however can not comment on it offically because of the appeal process won't be held in till january.
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antifoil
SBR MVP
11-11-09
3993
#114
mlb will try to cover this up like the ncaa did with cam newton. can't have the best players getting caught in their prime.
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Keelo
SBR Wise Guy
05-13-10
880
#115
Braun failed a test then passed the 2nd one he demanded just a couple days later. This was not even suppose to be leaked to the media until MLB found out all the details. Test results like his have never been seen before. He won't serve a suspension.
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xXxBallin21xXx
SBR Wise Guy
07-11-09
590
#116
he's clean
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KingJD31
SBR Hall of Famer
11-04-11
8167
#117
hes as dirty as arod manny big mac sosa palmero all of them except canseco
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moses millsap
SBR Hall of Famer
08-25-05
8289
#118
If he gets off, nothing more than Selig saving his favorite team's best player and MLB as a whole from embarassment.
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Holtgetsback
SBR MVP
01-04-10
4655
#119
Originally posted by Keelo
Braun failed a test then passed the 2nd one he demanded just a couple days later
quit twisting the story up and get off brauns dick
the 2nd test was almost a month after the first one.
I'm sure he panicked after the first test and got off his cycle
he's a juicing jew
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Darkside Magick
SBR Posting Legend
05-28-10
12638
#120
the biggest crime was he tested postive during the playoffs and no one said nothing !
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milkncereal
SBR Wise Guy
12-01-11
538
#121
Originally posted by Holtgetsback
quit twisting the story up and get off brauns dick the 2nd test was almost a month after the first one. I'm sure he panicked after the first test and got off his cycle he's a juicing jew
so many dudes on the juicing jews dick. We understand if you wanna say let the facts play out or use the manny defense it was OTC supplement, or whatever but saying that the same stuff over and over again in the same thread is pointless. Get of the juicing jews dick!
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milkncereal
SBR Wise Guy
12-01-11
538
#122
"In 2009 Ryan Braun was asked about Alex Rodriguez and his encounters with performance enhancing drugs.
“The best thing he (Alex Rodriguez) can do is come out, admit to everything and be completely honest. The situation will die a lot faster if he tells the whole truth.” – Ryan Braun"
Source: www.figurethingsout.com/blog/2011/12/10/with-brauns-suspension-should-kemp-be-the-2011-mvp/
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Ace_of_Spades
SBR Posting Legend
10-14-09
13518
#123
Originally posted by milkncereal
"In 2009 Ryan Braun was asked about Alex Rodriguez and his encounters with performance enhancing drugs.
“The best thing he (Alex Rodriguez) can do is come out, admit to everything and be completely honest. The situation will die a lot faster if he tells the whole truth.” – Ryan Braun"
Source: www.figurethingsout.com/blog/2011/12/10/with-brauns-suspension-should-kemp-be-the-2011-mvp/
Ha! What a dikhead. Braun, you a-hole.
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65733
#124
Milwaukee Brewers star Ryan Braun’s original test for performance-enhancing drugs as the playoffs were winding down in October was “insanely high, the highest ever for anyone who has ever taken a test, twice the level of the highest test ever taken,” said a source familiar with the developing case in which the outfielder was reported to have tested positive for an elevated level of testosterone caused by a synthetic substance, triggering a possible 50-game suspension if the test results are upheld.
The never-before-seen ratio, according to the source, is one of several “highly unusual circumstances” Braun’s camp has referred to when adamantly denying that he is year’s National League Most Valuable Player ingested a performance-enhancing drug that caused the positive test.
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Br0nxer
SBR Posting Legend
03-25-11
13665
#125
Cant wait to watch him hit 9 homers next year
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thebestthereis
SBR Posting Legend
03-01-09
11459
#126
whatever test he failed, it wasn't for anything that increases your strength because braun is not big and looks like he never lifted weights. if he is lifting he is doing it all wrong....unless it was bionics.
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ngates815
SBR Posting Legend
12-01-09
13845
#127
Originally posted by MB
Yup. I don't get why people are still surprised or even care.
Taking steroids doesn't put the bat on the ball.
I for one could give a fukk less.
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paco
SBR Aristocracy
05-07-09
62873
#128
Originally posted by ngates815
Taking steroids doesn't put the bat on the ball.
I for one could give a fukk less.
Helps eye/hand coordination = bat on ball at higher %
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65733
#129
Ryan Braun's positive test for testosterone showed a level that was extremely elevated, and likely the highest that has been recorded in Major League Baseball, according to sources with knowledge of the NL MVP's test.
Braun, who has vigorously denied guilt -- "It's BS," he told USA Today on Saturday night -- is entitled to the arbitration process through which players have a right to dispute a positive test and of which Braun will avail himself. Shortly after news of the test came out on Saturday, Braun's spokesman said in a statement that "there are highly unusual circumstances surrounding this case which will support Ryan's complete innocence."
ESPN, which initially broke the news of the positive test, reported that analysis of Braun's sample was positive for exogenous testosterone. If that's the case, a valid defense would be that Braun had an appropriate medical prescription for testosterone that earned him a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) from Major League Baseball. But multiple sources tell SI that Braun did not have a TUE, and a TUE cannot be applied retroactively. If Braun had a TUE, his test would not have been considered a positive by MLB in the first place
A source with knowledge of Braun's test result said that his MLB test was positive for a banned substance, but not a steroid or drug. Braun may argue that he ingested dietary supplements tainted with testosterone or testosterone-boosting ingredients not listed on the label. The supplements would presumably have to be very tainted to produce what sources say was his extremely high T:E ratio.
According to a source who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the process was supposed to remain confidential, when Braun learned of his positive test in October he voluntarily took another test at an independent lab that showed normal testosterone levels. Neither Braun's spokesman nor his attorney immediately returned messages asking whether Braun's voluntary test was analyzed for banned substances that might still be detectable even once the T:E ratio had dropped.
It is unlikely that Braun will argue, as some have speculated, that he inadvertently ingested dehydroepiandrosterone, or DHEA, in a dietary supplement. DHEA is converted in the body to testosterone, but is not banned by MLB. Since the 1994 Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act, DHEA has been legal to sell over the counter. (It can be found on plenty of labels at GNC or Vitamin Shoppe.) DHEA can elevate testosterone levels, but it has a specific metabolite that anti-doping laboratories look for, so the World Anti-Doping Association-accredited lab in Montreal, where Braun's test was analyzed after the initial high testosterone result, would have been able to tell if DHEA was the culprit.
Braun's voluntary test -- which showed normal testosterone levels -- came a few weeks after his positive test, and is expected to be part of his defense at arbitration. A source suggested that because Braun had passed previous tests and then passed his voluntary test, the fact that the one test produced such an extraordinarily high testosterone level may be used to suggest a problem with the testing or accidental one-time ingestion of a banned substance.
According to drug testing experts, though, passing a subsequent test is not, in and of itself, a valid defense and actually fits the pattern of some previous doping cases. US Anti-Doping Agency CEO Travis Tygart has no specific knowledge of the Braun case, but says that a testosterone level that goes from normal, to high, to normal is typical of someone on a steroid cycle. "After a person stops using, the T:E ratio" -- that's the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, which is 1:1 in most people, and above 4:1 in positive tests -- "goes back down to normal levels, and that could be in a matter of days or hours. It depends on how much they used, how long they've been using, and their own individual metabolism." Research done by German scientists showed that one particular drug boosted a patient's T:E ratio above 80:1 before it dropped back to normal only 12 hours later.
A number of articles and blogs have characterized Braun's positive test as yet another drug-related black eye for baseball and commissioner Bud Selig, who extolled the virtues of Braun as a bright light of the post-steroid scandal era.
But anti-doping experts who spoke with SI and are not involved in Braun's situation see the positive test and MLB's subsequent move to impose sanctions as a sign that drug testing is proceeding as it should. The darkest black eyes, they say, came when testing was feckless or not truly random and when big-name players were only exposed when they were dragged into Congress or court.
Dr. Gary Wadler, who until this year was chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency's Prohibited List and Methods Sub-Committee, testified at the famous 2005 Congressional hearings on drugs in baseball, and says, "There's no question baseball has come a long, long way from when I testified." He notes that testing at every game would be more effective, but said that a positive test from a star player suggests that "all comers" are being treated equally.
Added Tygart, "If athletes in a sport are cheating, it's not a bad thing for the integrity of the sport that they're caught.... It might be a double-edged sword publicly, but it's what clean athletes expect."
David Howman, director general of WADA, could not comment on Braun's case but said that "testing is now undertaken by the MLB to a far greater extent than previously."
At a recent gathering of the Partnership for Clean Competition at NFL headquarters, Howman applauded MLB on adopting blood testing for human growth hormone in its new collective bargaining agreement, and said, "I hope I can applaud the NFL soon."
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ehp6737
SBR MVP
12-11-08
4185
#130
"According to drug testing experts, though, passing a subsequent test is not, in and of itself, a valid defense and actually fits the pattern of some previous doping cases. US Anti-Doping Agency CEO Travis Tygart has no specific knowledge of the Braun case, but says that a testosterone level that goes from normal, to high, to normal is typical of someone on a steroid cycle. "After a person stops using, the T:E ratio" -- that's the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, which is 1:1 in most people, and above 4:1 in positive tests -- "goes back down to normal levels, and that could be in a matter of days or hours. It depends on how much they used, how long they've been using, and their own individual metabolism." Research done by German scientists showed that one particular drug boosted a patient's T:E ratio above 80:1 before it dropped back to normal only 12 hours later".
According to ESPN, they are relevant ... therefore, I never believe anything they say.
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richard1214
SBR Rookie
12-09-11
20
#132
Matt Kemp should have been MVP!
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richard1214
SBR Rookie
12-09-11
20
#133
He didn't cheat, at least he didn't get caught if he has been cheating. They should take away Brauns mvp and give it to Kemp
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stevenash
Moderator
01-17-11
65733
#134
Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
According to ESPN, they are relevant ... therefore, I never believe anything they say.
And why should you.
ESPN hasn't been on the level sing 1987
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KingJD31
SBR Hall of Famer
11-04-11
8167
#135
espn is avoiding this story the best they can they havnt said 1 thing about on first take monday and tuesday its cause hes white no question
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Bcatswin
SBR Posting Legend
12-21-10
13931
#136
So he failed and he's going to get nothing?
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Darkside Magick
SBR Posting Legend
05-28-10
12638
#137
this shit getting fishy!!!
guy has synthetic testosterone in his body and nobody not saying nothing!!!
jewish media protecting him!!!!!!!!
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KingJD31
SBR Hall of Famer
11-04-11
8167
#138
Originally posted by Darkside Magick
this shit getting fishy!!!
guy has synthetic testosterone in his body and nobody not saying nothing!!!
jewish media protecting him!!!!!!!!
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Big Bear
SBR Aristocracy
11-01-11
43253
#139
now you guys can get off Barry Bonds nuts! Ryan Braun does steroids too! I personally don't give a fukk what the players take as long as they entertain me.
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Darkside Magick
SBR Posting Legend
05-28-10
12638
#140
Originally posted by Big Bear
now you guys can get off Barry Bonds nuts! Ryan Braun does steroids too! I personally don't give a fukk what the players take as long as they entertain me.
i dont care what a player take either because at the end of the day...it is entertainment.