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  • Landscaper
    SBR MVP
    • 10-12-10
    • 2712

    #106
    People trying to stick up for him r just crazy..guy cheated and got caught

    If he was black everybody would be ripping the guy
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    • 19th Hole
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-22-09
      • 18964

      #107
      Originally posted by ehp6737
      The test was done during the end of the 2011 season, not the off season. So if his appeal is denied and the results of the first test are upheld, how can they not strip him of his 2011 MVP award?

      MVP is presented by the media ....NOT MLB.
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      • 19th Hole
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-22-09
        • 18964

        #108
        MLB players are notified that tests are coming. They try to beat
        the test by cycling their chemical use.
        Braun's failure to cycle properly got him busted.
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        • Brewers in 7
          SBR MVP
          • 01-20-10
          • 1363

          #109
          Amazing how people react to a ESPN leaked story, this was not to be made public because of the 2nd negative test, but since it is ESPN's job to try to ruin people's lives with their bushleague reporting they leaked this story.. We'll see what happens at the end of the appeal process in January and see if he is innocent or not..
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          • neverstoppers23
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-26-09
            • 6302

            #110
            jsonline just put up anther story a few minutes ago, where brauns camp's appear very very confident.

            "Source: Braun didn't take PED
            e-mail print By Tom Haudricourt of the Journal Sentinel
            Updated: Dec. 11, 2011 12:27 p.m. |(57) COMMENTS

            A very good source on the Ryan Braun side of the drug testing controversy assures me that Braun did not test positive for a performance-enhancing drug, as reported by ESPN's "Outside the Lines."

            ESPN reported that Braun tested positive for a PED that gave him an abnormally high testosterone level, which proved to be synthetic and therefore not produced by the body.

            But my source -- and again, this is from Braun's end and not MLB -- familiar with the test's findings says the "prohibited substance" was not a performance-enhancing drug or steroid of any kind. And the source says there has "never" been a result like this in the history of the MLB testing program.

            The source said MLB "knows that Ryan is telling the truth" and that source firmly believes the postive test will be overturned. Pretty amazing stuff, huh?

            The source said more detail couldn't be provided at this time because of the ongoing legal process. But suffice it to say that this is getting more interesting by the minute.

            If the prohibited substance Braun tested positive for was a stimulant instead of a steroid, he wouldn't be facing a 50-game suspension. The first offense for stimulants results in a 25-game suspension."
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            • mlb
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-04-09
              • 10509

              #111
              initially i was heartbroken
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              • numismatist
                SBR MVP
                • 10-02-11
                • 2192

                #112
                So googly eyes is a cheater. Who would have thunk it?
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                • neverstoppers23
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-26-09
                  • 6302

                  #113
                  Originally posted by mlb
                  initially i was heartbroken
                  MLB really needs to get their shit together, if they have rules such that the players can not comment on issues pertaining this but then some how this info gets leaked to the media outlet espn, they need to find the people that did this because its unacceptable.

                  mlb has told braun, that they know he is telling the truth, however can not comment on it offically because of the appeal process won't be held in till january.
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                  • antifoil
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-11-09
                    • 3993

                    #114
                    mlb will try to cover this up like the ncaa did with cam newton. can't have the best players getting caught in their prime.
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                    • Keelo
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 05-13-10
                      • 880

                      #115
                      Braun failed a test then passed the 2nd one he demanded just a couple days later. This was not even suppose to be leaked to the media until MLB found out all the details. Test results like his have never been seen before. He won't serve a suspension.
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                      • xXxBallin21xXx
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 07-11-09
                        • 590

                        #116
                        he's clean
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                        • KingJD31
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-04-11
                          • 8167

                          #117
                          hes as dirty as arod manny big mac sosa palmero all of them except canseco
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                          • moses millsap
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-25-05
                            • 8289

                            #118
                            If he gets off, nothing more than Selig saving his favorite team's best player and MLB as a whole from embarassment.
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                            • Holtgetsback
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-04-10
                              • 4655

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Keelo
                              Braun failed a test then passed the 2nd one he demanded just a couple days later
                              quit twisting the story up and get off brauns dick

                              the 2nd test was almost a month after the first one.

                              I'm sure he panicked after the first test and got off his cycle

                              he's a juicing jew
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                              • Darkside Magick
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-28-10
                                • 12638

                                #120
                                the biggest crime was he tested postive during the playoffs and no one said nothing !
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                                • milkncereal
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 12-01-11
                                  • 538

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by Holtgetsback
                                  quit twisting the story up and get off brauns dick the 2nd test was almost a month after the first one. I'm sure he panicked after the first test and got off his cycle he's a juicing jew
                                  so many dudes on the juicing jews dick. We understand if you wanna say let the facts play out or use the manny defense it was OTC supplement, or whatever but saying that the same stuff over and over again in the same thread is pointless. Get of the juicing jews dick!
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                                  • milkncereal
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-01-11
                                    • 538

                                    #122
                                    "In 2009 Ryan Braun was asked about Alex Rodriguez and his encounters with performance enhancing drugs.
                                    “The best thing he (Alex Rodriguez) can do is come out, admit to everything and be completely honest. The situation will die a lot faster if he tells the whole truth.” – Ryan Braun"
                                    Source:
                                    www.figurethingsout.com/blog/2011/12/10/with-brauns-suspension-should-kemp-be-the-2011-mvp/
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                                    • Ace_of_Spades
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-14-09
                                      • 13518

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by milkncereal
                                      "In 2009 Ryan Braun was asked about Alex Rodriguez and his encounters with performance enhancing drugs.
                                      “The best thing he (Alex Rodriguez) can do is come out, admit to everything and be completely honest. The situation will die a lot faster if he tells the whole truth.” – Ryan Braun"
                                      Source:
                                      www.figurethingsout.com/blog/2011/12/10/with-brauns-suspension-should-kemp-be-the-2011-mvp/
                                      Ha! What a dikhead. Braun, you a-hole.
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                                      • stevenash
                                        Moderator
                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 65733

                                        #124
                                        Milwaukee Brewers star Ryan Braun’s original test for performance-enhancing drugs as the playoffs were winding down in October was “insanely high, the highest ever for anyone who has ever taken a test, twice the level of the highest test ever taken,” said a source familiar with the developing case in which the outfielder was reported to have tested positive for an elevated level of testosterone caused by a synthetic substance, triggering a possible 50-game suspension if the test results are upheld.

                                        The never-before-seen ratio, according to the source, is one of several “highly unusual circumstances” Braun’s camp has referred to when adamantly denying that he is year’s National League Most Valuable Player ingested a performance-enhancing drug that caused the positive test.

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                                        • Br0nxer
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-25-11
                                          • 13665

                                          #125
                                          Cant wait to watch him hit 9 homers next year
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                                          • thebestthereis
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-01-09
                                            • 11459

                                            #126
                                            whatever test he failed, it wasn't for anything that increases your strength because braun is not big and looks like he never lifted weights. if he is lifting he is doing it all wrong....unless it was bionics.
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                                            • ngates815
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-01-09
                                              • 13845

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by MB
                                              Yup. I don't get why people are still surprised or even care.



                                              Taking steroids doesn't put the bat on the ball.

                                              I for one could give a fukk less.
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                                              • paco
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-07-09
                                                • 62873

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by ngates815



                                                Taking steroids doesn't put the bat on the ball.

                                                I for one could give a fukk less.
                                                Helps eye/hand coordination = bat on ball at higher %
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65733

                                                  #129
                                                  Ryan Braun's positive test for testosterone showed a level that was extremely elevated, and likely the highest that has been recorded in Major League Baseball, according to sources with knowledge of the NL MVP's test.

                                                  Braun, who has vigorously denied guilt -- "It's BS," he told USA Today on Saturday night -- is entitled to the arbitration process through which players have a right to dispute a positive test and of which Braun will avail himself. Shortly after news of the test came out on Saturday, Braun's spokesman said in a statement that "there are highly unusual circumstances surrounding this case which will support Ryan's complete innocence."

                                                  ESPN, which initially broke the news of the positive test, reported that analysis of Braun's sample was positive for exogenous testosterone. If that's the case, a valid defense would be that Braun had an appropriate medical prescription for testosterone that earned him a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) from Major League Baseball. But multiple sources tell SI that Braun did not have a TUE, and a TUE cannot be applied retroactively. If Braun had a TUE, his test would not have been considered a positive by MLB in the first place

                                                  A source with knowledge of Braun's test result said that his MLB test was positive for a banned substance, but not a steroid or drug. Braun may argue that he ingested dietary supplements tainted with testosterone or testosterone-boosting ingredients not listed on the label. The supplements would presumably have to be very tainted to produce what sources say was his extremely high T:E ratio.

                                                  According to a source who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the process was supposed to remain confidential, when Braun learned of his positive test in October he voluntarily took another test at an independent lab that showed normal testosterone levels. Neither Braun's spokesman nor his attorney immediately returned messages asking whether Braun's voluntary test was analyzed for banned substances that might still be detectable even once the T:E ratio had dropped.

                                                  It is unlikely that Braun will argue, as some have speculated, that he inadvertently ingested dehydroepiandrosterone, or DHEA, in a dietary supplement. DHEA is converted in the body to testosterone, but is not banned by MLB. Since the 1994 Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act, DHEA has been legal to sell over the counter. (It can be found on plenty of labels at GNC or Vitamin Shoppe.) DHEA can elevate testosterone levels, but it has a specific metabolite that anti-doping laboratories look for, so the World Anti-Doping Association-accredited lab in Montreal, where Braun's test was analyzed after the initial high testosterone result, would have been able to tell if DHEA was the culprit.

                                                  Braun's voluntary test -- which showed normal testosterone levels -- came a few weeks after his positive test, and is expected to be part of his defense at arbitration. A source suggested that because Braun had passed previous tests and then passed his voluntary test, the fact that the one test produced such an extraordinarily high testosterone level may be used to suggest a problem with the testing or accidental one-time ingestion of a banned substance.
                                                  According to drug testing experts, though, passing a subsequent test is not, in and of itself, a valid defense and actually fits the pattern of some previous doping cases. US Anti-Doping Agency CEO Travis Tygart has no specific knowledge of the Braun case, but says that a testosterone level that goes from normal, to high, to normal is typical of someone on a steroid cycle. "After a person stops using, the T:E ratio" -- that's the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, which is 1:1 in most people, and above 4:1 in positive tests -- "goes back down to normal levels, and that could be in a matter of days or hours. It depends on how much they used, how long they've been using, and their own individual metabolism." Research done by German scientists showed that one particular drug boosted a patient's T:E ratio above 80:1 before it dropped back to normal only 12 hours later.

                                                  A number of articles and blogs have characterized Braun's positive test as yet another drug-related black eye for baseball and commissioner Bud Selig, who extolled the virtues of Braun as a bright light of the post-steroid scandal era.

                                                  But anti-doping experts who spoke with SI and are not involved in Braun's situation see the positive test and MLB's subsequent move to impose sanctions as a sign that drug testing is proceeding as it should. The darkest black eyes, they say, came when testing was feckless or not truly random and when big-name players were only exposed when they were dragged into Congress or court.

                                                  Dr. Gary Wadler, who until this year was chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency's Prohibited List and Methods Sub-Committee, testified at the famous 2005 Congressional hearings on drugs in baseball, and says, "There's no question baseball has come a long, long way from when I testified." He notes that testing at every game would be more effective, but said that a positive test from a star player suggests that "all comers" are being treated equally.
                                                  Added Tygart, "If athletes in a sport are cheating, it's not a bad thing for the integrity of the sport that they're caught.... It might be a double-edged sword publicly, but it's what clean athletes expect."

                                                  David Howman, director general of WADA, could not comment on Braun's case but said that "testing is now undertaken by the MLB to a far greater extent than previously."

                                                  At a recent gathering of the Partnership for Clean Competition at NFL headquarters, Howman applauded MLB on adopting blood testing for human growth hormone in its new collective bargaining agreement, and said, "I hope I can applaud the NFL soon."
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                                                  • ehp6737
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-11-08
                                                    • 4185

                                                    #130
                                                    "According to drug testing experts, though, passing a subsequent test is not, in and of itself, a valid defense and actually fits the pattern of some previous doping cases. US Anti-Doping Agency CEO Travis Tygart has no specific knowledge of the Braun case, but says that a testosterone level that goes from normal, to high, to normal is typical of someone on a steroid cycle. "After a person stops using, the T:E ratio" -- that's the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, which is 1:1 in most people, and above 4:1 in positive tests -- "goes back down to normal levels, and that could be in a matter of days or hours. It depends on how much they used, how long they've been using, and their own individual metabolism." Research done by German scientists showed that one particular drug boosted a patient's T:E ratio above 80:1 before it dropped back to normal only 12 hours later".

                                                    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/david_epstein/12/12/ryan.braun.test/index.html#ixzz1gQ8aCF93"\
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                                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-06-06
                                                      • 71662

                                                      #131
                                                      According to ESPN, they are relevant ... therefore, I never believe anything they say.
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                                                      • richard1214
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 12-09-11
                                                        • 20

                                                        #132
                                                        Matt Kemp should have been MVP!
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                                                        • richard1214
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 12-09-11
                                                          • 20

                                                          #133
                                                          He didn't cheat, at least he didn't get caught if he has been cheating. They should take away Brauns mvp and give it to Kemp
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65733

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                            According to ESPN, they are relevant ... therefore, I never believe anything they say.
                                                            And why should you.
                                                            ESPN hasn't been on the level sing 1987
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                                                            • KingJD31
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-04-11
                                                              • 8167

                                                              #135
                                                              espn is avoiding this story the best they can they havnt said 1 thing about on first take monday and tuesday its cause hes white no question
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                                                              • Bcatswin
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-21-10
                                                                • 13931

                                                                #136
                                                                So he failed and he's going to get nothing?
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                                                                • Darkside Magick
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 05-28-10
                                                                  • 12638

                                                                  #137
                                                                  this shit getting fishy!!!

                                                                  guy has synthetic testosterone in his body and nobody not saying nothing!!!

                                                                  jewish media protecting him!!!!!!!!
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                                                                  • KingJD31
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-04-11
                                                                    • 8167

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                                    this shit getting fishy!!!

                                                                    guy has synthetic testosterone in his body and nobody not saying nothing!!!

                                                                    jewish media protecting him!!!!!!!!
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                                                                    • Big Bear
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 11-01-11
                                                                      • 43253

                                                                      #139
                                                                      now you guys can get off Barry Bonds nuts! Ryan Braun does steroids too! I personally don't give a fukk what the players take as long as they entertain me.
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                                                                      • Darkside Magick
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 05-28-10
                                                                        • 12638

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                                        now you guys can get off Barry Bonds nuts! Ryan Braun does steroids too! I personally don't give a fukk what the players take as long as they entertain me.

                                                                        i dont care what a player take either because at the end of the day...it is entertainment.

                                                                        but be equal with the criticism.
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