Calipari is not a good basketball coach

[jackmyhoggoff]

Dean Smith had the best FAB FIVE of all time and got lucky to win ONE NC with them, MJ-Sam Perkins-James Worthy -Jimmy Black and I think the other was Doughtry ? . Michgan's FAB-5 Won zero ! Moral of the story better to be LUCKY than GOOD! AT times great isn't good enough!

[doublej95]

Dean Smith had the best FAB FIVE of all time and got lucky to win ONE NC with them, MJ-Sam Perkins-James Worthy -Jimmy Black and I think the other was Doughtry ? . Michgan's FAB-5 Won zero ! Moral of the story better to be LUCKY than GOOD! AT times great isn't good enough!

he won though didn't he? Smith should probably have won more than the two national titles that he did but he ran a clean program. 36 years of coaching 879 wins and not a single one of them tainted. 96.6% graduation rate, no violations.

[jeffdane]

you can talk about his coaching all you want, but

he did tell them to foul.

if you watched the game, you would know that calipari called over his guard, when UK was shooting ft's, and told him to foul. if you watched the game, you would have seen that the player tried to foul and the ref didnt call it. after the missed foul they couldnt foul because IU was now in shooting position and on the move. t jones didnt show up and the team missed free throws again. calipari called timeouts, at the right time, numerous times yesterday, and UK responded each time.

ps: i am not a UK fan or a Calipari fan, but I did watch the game.

[slatter]

He's not the worst Xs and Os coach, but his strength is obviously in his recruiting. And it's a big reason why he's been to a lot of Elite Eights and Final Fours and never won it.

[jackmyhoggoff]

you can talk about his coaching all you want, but

he did tell them to foul.

if you watched the game, you would know that calipari called over his guard, when UK was shooting ft's, and told him to foul. if you watched the game, you would have seen that the player tried to foul and the ref didnt call it. after the missed foul they couldnt foul because IU was now in shooting position and on the move. t jones didnt show up and the team missed free throws again. calipari called timeouts, at the right time, numerous times yesterday, and UK responded each time.

ps: i am not a UK fan or a Calipari fan, but I did watch the game.

THANK YOU ! Debate over !!

[jackmyhoggoff]

he won though didn't he? Smith should probably have won more than the two national titles that he did but he ran a clean program. 36 years of coaching 879 wins and not a single one of them tainted. 96.6% graduation rate, no violations.

BUT. Back to the point most of the time he to had the best kids BUT had to get LUCKY to have won the ones he did ! And most of the time NC doesn't even leave their OWN state until the Sweet 16 is over, which means most of the time had the best kids got the best places to play within their own state in the tourney AND still had to be LUCKY as well as good to have only WON 2 at that time. MORAL of story AGAIN better to be LUCKY than just GOOD!

[19th Hole]

John Wooden may disagree.

T H I S

[HR Paperstacks]

Marcus Camby UMass had its 4-1 1996 NCAA Tournament record vacated when the NCAA discovered that UMass player Marcus Camby had accepted money and gifts from an agent. According to the article, Camby accepted around $40,000 whlie a player for Calipari at UMass. ""Marcus was good," says [John] Lounsbury, 42, who estimates that he gave Camby more than $40,000 in cash and gifts between December 1994 and March 1996." "In addition to lavishing money and gifts on Camby, Lounsbury tried to ingratiate himself with the player's mother. Meanwhile, he says, Spears sought to use Camby's friends to get an inside track. "He went for the 'boys in the hood' approach," Lounsbury says. "Another agent I heard of tied himself to Jackie Bethea, Marcus's 'second mom.' [Bethea coached Camby on youth league teams and has a child with Camby's father, Ames Manderville.] Another guy went for the [then Minutemen] coach [John Calipari]. Another guy worked on the people handling the agent-screening process at UMass. We were all looking for an angle."[14] Dajuan Wagner In 2001, Calipari successfully recruited Dajuan Wagner, the Naismith Prep Player of the Year, to the University of Memphis. Soon after, Dajuan's father Milt Wagner was hired as Coordinator of Basketball Operations.[18] Dajuan declared for the NBA draft after his freshman year; his father remained in his position for six years before joining former Memphis assistant Tony Barbee at UTEP.[19] [edit]Tyreke Evans Calipari also hired McDonalds' All-American game MVP and Memphis recruit Tyreke Evans' personal strength coach as his administrative assistant.[20] Derrick Rose The NCAA investigated allegations that a player on the 2007-08 team committed "knowing fraudulence or misconduct in connection with his entrance examination" and had an unknown individual complete his SAT examination.[21] The NCAA informed Calipari in a letter that he was not considered "at risk" in this investigation.[1] The player was subsequently identified as Derrick Rose. Subsequently, allegations surfaced that Rose's brother, Reggie, had been allowed to travel to Tiger road games for free.[22] On August 20, 2009, the NCAA ruled that Rose was ineligible and forced Memphis to vacate the entire 2007-08 season, including the NCAA Tournament and its standing as runner-up. It took the line that even though Rose's score had not been thrown out by the Educational Testing Service, which administers the SAT, until after the season, strict liability required that Rose be ruled ineligible.[23][24] The committee also determined that even without the questions about his SAT score, he would have lost his eligibility in December 2007 due to his brother being allowed to travel with the team for free.[25] Robert Dozier Robert Dozier, a member of the 2007-2008 Memphis Tigers, also had questions arise over the legitimacy of his SAT score. According to the article, "Former University of Memphis forward Robert Dozier's initial SAT score was invalidated by the company that scores the exam, and when he took the test a second time, he scored 540 fewer points, ESPN.com has learned through an open records request. In addition, a person claiming to be a faculty member at his high school in suburban Atlanta wrote an anonymous letter to the NCAA Initial-Eligibility Clearinghouse questioning his score on the admissions test, records obtained from the University of Georgia show.[26] Laurinburg Institute "Laurinburg Institute became a pipeline for Memphis during Calipari's nine-year tenure. Former Memphis player Joey Dorsey also attended the school, which is located about 90 miles southeast of Charlotte. While at Laurinburg Institute, Dozier met the NCAA's initial eligibility requirements. He signed to play for the Tigers in November 2004 and enrolled the next year. In 2007, the NCAA launched a three-year investigation of Laurinburg Institute during its review of college prep schools around the country. In May, the NCAA announced it would no longer accept courses, grades and diplomas from Laurinburg Institute because of concerns about its academic programs and oversight."[27] Enes Kanter Calipari recruited and signed a professional player from Turkey. According to an Associated Press article, "The NCAA ruled Kanter received over $33,000 above his necessary expenses for the 2008-09 season. "Enes took advantage of an opportunity to play at the highest level available to him, but the consequences of receiving payments above his actual expenses is not compatible with the collegiate model of sports that our members have developed," said Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president of academic and membership affairs. Kentucky coach John Calipari had no immediate comment, but has stated repeatedly he believed Kanter maintained his amateur status."[28]

You highlight a post saying he pays his players and then you post this crap. Where in all the jibberish you just posted does it say he paid anyone?

Nice try there Matlock.

[doublej95]

You highlight a post saying he pays his players and then you post this crap. Where in all the jibberish you just posted does it say he paid anyone?

Nice try there Matlock.

he has had players that take money, he has had to vacate seasons, he takes dumbass players that cheat to get into school. Coach Cal is as clean as a whistle, I was mistaken.

[jackmyhoggoff]

he has had players that take money, he has had to vacate seasons, he takes dumbass players that cheat to get into school. Coach Cal is as clean as a whistle, I was mistaken.

Everyones CLOSET has it's own dirt, some keep it hid some get caught ! ENRON & TYCO and now PENN ST.

[grannybettor]

He needs to hire someone who can game coach as an assistant, like Pitino did with Ralph Willard.
Then he can just be a pimp on the sidelines.... They wont win it.


Granny

[UNCGQ]

He'll never win one for the same reason his team's have never been to the Final Four.

[Scoobdog24]

He'll never win one for the same reason his team's have never been to the Final Four.

Final Four last year.

[Big Bear]

in college sports being a good recruiter is more important than being a good coach

[jackmyhoggoff]

He'll never win one for the same reason his team's have never been to the Final Four.

ARE YOU LOST ! Or just don't have access to info or watch the sport!

[BernardMadoff]

Double J posted a bunch of nonsense in response to the allegation that Calipari pays players, has nothing to do with the assertion.

[BernardMadoff]

Dean Smith had the best FAB FIVE of all time and got lucky to win ONE NC with them, MJ-Sam Perkins-James Worthy -Jimmy Black and I think the other was Doughtry ? . Michgan's FAB-5 Won zero ! Moral of the story better to be LUCKY than GOOD! AT times great isn't good enough!

That wasnt the best fab five of all time.

[doublej95]

Double J posted a bunch of nonsense in response to the allegation that Calipari pays players, has nothing to do with the assertion.

doublej posted the crap that Calipari and his players have been involved in during his coaching career. he is a dirty coach plain and simple. it's a good thing there is coaches like Coach K and Roy Williams that can win and do it clean.

[BernardMadoff]

doublej posted the crap that Calipari and his players have been involved in during his coaching career. he is a dirty coach plain and simple. it's a good thing there is coaches like Coach K and Roy Williams that can win and do it clean.

What does any of that have to do with Calipari himself paying anyone? Absolutely nothing. For the record I dont like how he coaches, dont like his halfcourt sets which are basically one on one matchups most of the times, dribble and kick bs, he acts as if his players arnt smart enough to run better or more complex sets and just feel they can get by on athleticism alone.

[doublej95]

What does any of that have to do with Calipari himself paying anyone? Absolutely nothing.

he has had players that took money under his watch. which means pay to play.

[BernardMadoff]

he has had players that took money under his watch. which means pay to play.

Did Calipari pay them?