Bowl lines out: what are your Top-5 bets?

Dutch · 12-07-11, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I'm not seeing Iowa's slow D keeping up with OU, unless they are a no-show mentally for this game.

Originally posted by sandman0713

ou loses some games they shouldn't...and they really look bad doing it sometimes...but they are almost always $$$ after a loss under stoops. still don't know if i like this game...but they have been an auto-play for me after a str8 up loss for several years now.

Iowa's D is M.I.A. this year. And their O hasn't ever been explosive. I wouldn't be surprised to see a score like 34-9 OK.

Goat Milk · 12-07-11, 09:19 PM

survive · 12-08-11, 12:53 AM

^how many times has denard beat MSU??

Joe_Shabadoo · 12-08-11, 01:16 AM

I understand the issues with Utah; those were in my thought process as well. Believe me, I know.

John Hays is not a competent D-1 QB, but, last season against Boise in the MAACO Bowl nonwithstanding, Kyle Whittingham is a master planner when time is on his side.

Norm Chow is still a great offensive mind -- he's just having to make due with a paucity of talent at the QB position with Wynn going down early in the season.

Utah's receiving corps. is extremely talented, and go almost 8-deep. So, if outside chance meets a bit of execution in the passing game, Utah can put up some splash plays. They're rooted in a strong offensive and defensive front, though.

I also believe that the veer concept is just similar enough between the last 10 years of game-planning for Fisher DeBerry and Troy Calhoun's iteration on the triple-option so as to get this defense back up to speed with Tech's philosophy.

I revere what Paul Johnson does as a coach, and for his demeanor, but until he can get back to that seminal moment of fielding the right QB for his attack such as when he put his trust in Josh Nesbitt or Kaipo back in the West Point days, Tevin Washington will have this team way behind schedule and drive counts.

Utah's defense is damn-good, and their D-line rotation is robust. I like getting a good return on the moneyline here.

No coincidences · 12-08-11, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by survive

^how many times has denard beat MSU??

0.

Goat's just trying to stir up shit because that's all he's got here. Can't pick games, makes irrational arguments, horrible assessments of players and teams, etc.

He's a shit talker. Nothing more.

Killer_Demo · 12-08-11, 02:24 AM

Navy -7
TCU - 10 1/2
Boise ST - 14
Michigan ST +3 1/2
LSU -1

GL all

PAYTON20 · 12-08-11, 02:33 AM

Ohio St ML
Penn St ML
UCLA ML
Purdue -2.5
Florida St -3

Longshots: Washington +10/stab at ML & Arizona St +14/stab at ML

PAYTON20 · 12-08-11, 02:50 AM

Southern Miss -6

skers11 · 12-08-11, 12:01 PM

Nebraska ML
Alabama ML (rarely does a team beat the same team twice same season)
Michigan St Georgia Under
Mich St +3.5
Wisky ML and spread ( wisky has the better d, and 3 of the top 4 players offensively, Wilson, Ball, Toon vs James)

survive · 12-08-11, 12:23 PM

wiscy/oregon over (wisky's defense is mediocre at best/we all know about oregon's o, wilson/ball will roll ducks d), clemson, penn st, boise st, texas

seaborneq · 12-08-11, 03:13 PM

Kansas State +7.5, guranteed letdown for Arky
West Virginia +3, Clemson never plays two good games in a row
Fla St -3, Notre Dame can still be manhandled
Louisville +2.5, NCst has no medium, really bad or really good, I'm banking on bad
California +3, Texas is not that good this year, plus travel to northwest

ElCapitan · 12-08-11, 03:18 PM

WISC +6
W.MICH +2.5
CIN +2.5
TEM -6.5
HOU -5.5

In that order.

naloboy · 12-08-11, 11:32 PM

boise; baylor; laf; nw; wisky; clemson. i'll be in vegas to make that a parlay @40-1!

aleiverson02 · 12-09-11, 12:46 AM

You guys Oregon is going to roll! That is easy money, they will destroy Wisconsin. They keep it close till about half way through the 3rd qtr and UO pulls away with the 42-21 defeat.

No coincidences · 12-13-11, 10:18 AM

Updated list for me....

Strong leans (no particular order):
Louisiana-Lafayette +5.5
Penn State +5.5
Vanderbilt -2.5
Iowa State +1.5
Northwestern +9.5
Wisconsin +6

Regular leans:
Utah State -2.5
Virginia Tech +2.5
Ohio State +2
Virginia +1.5
Nebraska +2.5
Wake Forest +7
Utah +3.5
BYU -3

HoulihansTX · 12-13-11, 10:22 AM

Iowa +14.5

tiger_bait · 12-13-11, 10:27 AM

LSU
UL Laf
La Tech
Vanderbilt
Notre Dame

No coincidences · 12-13-11, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Iowa +14.5

I don't know what to think about this game. Part of me wants to hammer Iowa because I think Oklahoma will be uninspired and they're horribly banged up, but there's still such a talent gap that if the Sooners actually want to turn it on, they could win this game by 30.

No coincidences · 12-13-11, 10:47 AM

Also like the over in the national title game.

Doubt I'll play a side there though.

Glitch · 12-13-11, 10:50 AM

ohio u, iowa st, lsu

rkellyatrecess · 12-13-11, 01:46 PM

UNC+5
Western Michigan+2.5
Air Force+3
Notre Dame+3
Utah+3.5(Hard not to think this line is a gift)

BigdaddyQH · 12-13-11, 02:46 PM

I also took Toledo-Air Force over 70. 80 will be closer to it the way these two teams score and give up points.

Brock Landers · 12-13-11, 02:56 PM

seen a few Illinois plays here and have to ask WHY? The team is in the toilet and has half a coaching staff getting them ready for a game they aren't interested in playing anyway.

Really bad choice to go with Illinois

porterkid69 · 12-13-11, 05:37 PM

South Carolina -2
W Michigan ML
Ark. St. -1.5
UCLA Under 47
Temple -6.5

1 extra Utah +3.5

Big Bear · 12-13-11, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by seaborneq

Kansas State +7.5, guranteed letdown for Arky
West Virginia +3, Clemson never plays two good games in a row
Fla St -3, Notre Dame can still be manhandled
Louisville +2.5, NCst has no medium, really bad or really good, I'm banking on bad
California +3, Texas is not that good this year, plus travel to northwest

guaranteed let down for Arkansas? why?

pacocn · 12-14-11, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I'm not really sure why everyone thinks the Badgers will get rolled. They may have trouble with Oregon's team speed, but how will the Ducks handle Wisconsin's physical play? The Badgers are very balanced. I watched Oregon get absolutely shredded by USC at home -- they're far from perfect.

N.C. as i learned in my 6th grade health class Speed Kills.
We saw this same situation last year and Oregon prevailed, speed over power.

sportfan · 12-14-11, 01:11 AM

Lsu/Bama under whatever

Purdue -2.5
Penn st +6
West Virginia +3.5
Okie st/Stanford O74

Big Bear · 12-14-11, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by pacocn

N.C. as i learned in my 6th grade health class Speed Kills.
We saw this same situation last year and Oregon prevailed, speed over power.

Wisconsin will dominate when they have the ball. No way Oregon is able to get Wisconsin off the field that offensive line and Montee Ball will manhandle Oregons undersized defense.

pacocn · 12-14-11, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Big Bear

Wisconsin will dominate when they have the ball. No way Oregon is able to get Wisconsin off the field that offensive line and Montee Ball will manhandle Oregons undersized defense.

Over 72 may be the play.

Dutch · 12-14-11, 01:44 PM

Wisc/OR is tough to get a handle on.

Both teams were able to run the score up against pretty weak conferences/schedules. And in their loses both teams allowed some points. Makes the over look good.

But I'm still scary to jump on the over. Might have to leave this one alone...don't really need the action, just root for the Big10 and enjoy the game I guess.

fishmonger · 12-15-11, 04:08 AM

Ul Lafayette
Arizona state
Penn st
NCSU
Clemson

BiffTFinancial · 12-15-11, 08:09 PM

Vandy
Michigan
Penn State
Boise
Utah

pacocn · 12-15-11, 08:35 PM

Oregon, Temple, Penn St.,
Bama, Fla international

madworld · 12-16-11, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Joe_Shabadoo

I understand the issues with Utah; those were in my thought process as well. Believe me, I know. John Hays is not a competent D-1 QB, but, last season against Boise in the MAACO Bowl nonwithstanding, Kyle Whittingham is a master planner when time is on his side. Norm Chow is still a great offensive mind -- he's just having to make due with a paucity of talent at the QB position with Wynn going down early in the season. Utah's receiving corps. is extremely talented, and go almost 8-deep. So, if outside chance meets a bit of execution in the passing game, Utah can put up some splash plays. They're rooted in a strong offensive and defensive front, though. I also believe that the veer concept is just similar enough between the last 10 years of game-planning for Fisher DeBerry and Troy Calhoun's iteration on the triple-option so as to get this defense back up to speed with Tech's philosophy. I revere what Paul Johnson does as a coach, and for his demeanor, but until he can get back to that seminal moment of fielding the right QB for his attack such as when he put his trust in Josh Nesbitt or Kaipo back in the West Point days, Tevin Washington will have this team way behind schedule and drive counts. Utah's defense is damn-good, and their D-line rotation is robust. I like getting a good return on the moneyline here.

Utah's offense is horrible and there defense is top notch. That is why under 51 is the only option for me in this game. I believe this game will be under 40.

Thunders77 · 12-16-11, 02:35 PM

Stronger:
Kansas State +8
Wisconsin +6
Houston -5
Ohio St. +2
Cincy -2.5

Regular:
Ohio +3
W.Michigan -2.5
Wake Forest +6.5