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  • griz
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    • 01-27-11
    • 3647

    #1
    eagles should NOT fire andy reid
    Reid can fix this in the offseason. Needs to hire a real d. Coordinator, draft/ sign real linebackers, and have some tough minicamps. Also get rid of djax. Firing Reid will be a mistake that sets the eagles back 5 years
  • DrStale
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    • 12-07-08
    • 9692

    #2
    Is he going to get smarter in the offseason too? Yeah keep the guy who has no idea how to use a challenge flag and stares off into space instead of calling a timeout while the clock keeps ticking away. I don't understand how people can keep defending this guy.
    Originally posted by Dark Horse
    If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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    • dlunc3
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      • 10-31-09
      • 9129

      #3
      I'm not defending him... But he won't be fired.. they will allow him to finish his contract
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      • philswin
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        • 04-18-07
        • 1279

        #4
        Why give him the chance again to do the things he should have done last year. How can you hire a D coordinator who has never coached defense?
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        • jjgold
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          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          Jackson is a huge cancer, cannot win with guys like him

          Reid is ok..let Vick be Vick
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          • Shafted69
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            • 07-04-08
            • 6412

            #6
            Andy Reid did not throw the interceptions, nor did he drop balls & let one go through the hands for bogus pick 6. Give the guy another year.
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            • letsgo
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              • 03-27-10
              • 2204

              #7
              Originally posted by griz
              Reid can fix this in the offseason. Needs to hire a real d. Coordinator, draft/ sign real linebackers, and have some tough minicamps. Also get rid of djax. Firing Reid will be a mistake that sets the eagles back 5 years
              Who thought that an Offensive Line Coach would make a good D Coordinator? - Andy Reid
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              • letsgo
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                • 03-27-10
                • 2204

                #8
                Originally posted by Shafted69
                Andy Reid did not throw the interceptions, nor did he drop balls & let one go through the hands for bogus pick 6. Give the guy another year.
                LOL, Andy Reid has as more impact on what Players are on his team than almost any other coach.

                He has helped screw up draft after draft, just look back at some of the Eagles past draft picks.

                They drafted Riley Cooper, he is horrible. Jackson is a cancer, Maclin can't stay healthy.

                Reid has always ignored Linebackers, now look what has happened.
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                • upscope
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                  • 04-26-11
                  • 2837

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DrStale
                  Is he going to get smarter in the offseason too? Yeah keep the guy who has no idea how to use a challenge flag and stares off into space instead of calling a timeout while the clock keeps ticking away. I don't understand how people can keep defending this guy.

                  Since Reid is so dumb & you obviously know more about coaching football than he does I'm wondering why you can't coach the same team @ the NFL level for 13 yrs & become the longest tenured coach in the league??
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                  • bruceBRUCEbruce
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                    • 06-20-09
                    • 2560

                    #10
                    reid's been a lousy coach for quite sometime now. he's made the same mistakes for years on end, and can't adjust.
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                    • Mr KLC
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                      • 12-19-07
                      • 31097

                      #11
                      Before this year, the man only had 2 losing seasons with the Eagles. He deserves to finish off his contract, and to try and straighten the team out.
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                      • DrStale
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                        • 12-07-08
                        • 9692

                        #12
                        Originally posted by upscope


                        Since Reid is so dumb & you obviously know more about coaching football than he does I'm wondering why you can't coach the same team @ the NFL level for 13 yrs & become the longest tenured coach in the league??
                        So rather than refute my statements (because you can't) you turn an argument into a bewildering statement on why I am not a coach? What does him being the longest tenured prove? That Eagles management is as dumb as he is? The guy was given a Pro Bowl roster and is now 4-8, please keep defending him.
                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                        If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                        • dlunc3
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                          • 10-31-09
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                          #13
                          Pro bowl roster? These safeties and lbs would not start for any other team in the nfl.. not one of them...sure Andy had played part in designing his roster.. but rough to say the whole roster is probowl caliber when the 5 down the middle of the defense prob shouldn't even be in this league
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                          • DrStale
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                            • 12-07-08
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by dlunc3
                            Pro bowl roster? These safeties and lbs would not start for any other team in the nfl.. not one of them...sure Andy had played part in designing his roster.. but rough to say the whole roster is probowl caliber when the 5 down the middle of the defense prob shouldn't even be in this league
                            Obviously there's a level of sarcasm there, but im not the one who called 'em a "dream team"
                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                            If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                            • Mr Handicapable
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                              • 09-23-07
                              • 6067

                              #15
                              Andy Reid is a good coach but he needs to go! Kind of like Donovan was catching so much $hit it was time to move on for him. Hope I got this right.....Reid names Castillo the D-coordinator when he was the O-line coach?? Two completely different jobs...how in the hell is that going to work out? The chick from American Airlines is doing a good job handing out cocktails so lets make her a pilot. They could drag Reid's kid out of a meth house at 3am and he'd tell you thats not a good idea.
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                              • neverstoppers23
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                                • 11-26-09
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                                #16
                                i am going back and fourth on this issue, reid is a top tier coach no doubt about it. no one should question that, but it just is not working right now. maybe it will in the future, but do you really want to waste anther season with all the talent? eagles would have first pick of coaches coming out of retirement to help them when a title. looks like they are going to have a high draft pick, samuel is probably going to leave in free agency.

                                so, i think you fire him, if you have a guy.
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                                • bruceBRUCEbruce
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                                  • 06-20-09
                                  • 2560

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                  Before this year, the man only had 2 losing seasons with the Eagles.
                                  Reid is 58-49-1 since 2005. that's slightly better than average.
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                                  • McBa1n
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                                    • 01-02-06
                                    • 2642

                                    #18
                                    So, going over Andy Reid's... We'll say 'overwhelmingly' successful career being the coach in Philly.
                                    Where does Philly go to find a candidate that has had such a consistent track record of success?
                                    It's such a knee jerk thing to want a coach's head to roll in the ESPN age. If he's got to go, then who do you bring in? Who else is out there that has taken a team with a QB that everyone in Philly wanted gone (McNabb) to so many playoff appearances and championship games?

                                    All the "dream team" hype was a fugazi, and anyone that studies football knows that it's a VERY rare that a free agent or player new to the team makes a day 1 impact. It takes time to develop chemistry. There's no Brian Dawkins anymore to bring veteran leadership. Vick is a leader? Really? Philly lacks that locker room chemistry that is so critical to keeping a team together thru adversity. There aren't even that many studs, to be fair, on the team. They have some guys that I'd want on my team, but they also have guys you couldn't pay me to put on my team, you know, the 'me first guys', like Samuel or Jackson. Talented guys, but not guys you really want on your team.

                                    Philly has some serious issues to address and Reid is not one of them, IMO. Again, find me a replacement that would be suitable and I'll stop defending the guy. Bad coaches do not go to the playoffs pretty much every year. The real problem on that team is lack of veteran leadership and a selfishness that has become a cancer in that locker room.
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                                    • Mr Handicapable
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                                      • 09-23-07
                                      • 6067

                                      #19
                                      I'll give you one from last night that shows Reid has checked out with the rest of his team. Seattle gets stopped on 3rd down w/a minute left 1H and is obv going for a field goal. Reid has timeouts but lets the clock run down to :15. Philly then gets a nice kickoff return and Young gets them past midfield only to have time for 1 hail mary into the endzone.
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                                      • letsgo
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                                        • 03-27-10
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by neverstoppers23
                                        i am going back and fourth on this issue, reid is a top tier coach no doubt about it. no one should question that, but it just is not working right now. maybe it will in the future, but do you really want to waste anther season with all the talent? eagles would have first pick of coaches coming out of retirement to help them when a title. looks like they are going to have a high draft pick, samuel is probably going to leave in free agency.

                                        so, i think you fire him, if you have a guy.
                                        Andy Reid has to be one of the worst in game Coaches out there, Time Management is brutal, play calling is brutal (I know Marty calls the plays but he is an extension of Andy).

                                        I didn't think Samuel was a free agent next year, didn't they sign him to that long contract? I don't doubt they may release/trade him.
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                                        • Mr Handicapable
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                                          • 09-23-07
                                          • 6067

                                          #21
                                          Who was it that made sure McNabb never had a big name receiver (or RB) other than TO for his entire Philly career? Reid is as soft as Mike Martz....ignore the running game and then wonder why you can't pick up 3rd/1 or play smashmouth in the redzone.
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                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-06-06
                                            • 71662

                                            #22
                                            Lurie is a loyal owner. Doubtful Reid is fired because of this poor season. He will be given next year to try and mesh this unit together. Given the shortened offseason from the lockout, etc. - the "excuses" are there to justify another season. Although I loathe his play calling with Marty M, I think he's earned the right to have a shit season and not get canned. He's only had three losing seasons in his tenture since 1999, one was his 1st, the 2nd was 2005 and all the T.O. bullshit.

                                            Only way I would can him is if he refuses to hire a DC or acknowledge the flaws of this team ... or Bill Cowher is available.
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                                            • stevenash
                                              Moderator
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 65661

                                              #23
                                              Five words Mr. Reid
                                              "Clock management, look into it"

                                              Five more words.
                                              "Step away from the cheeseburger"
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                                              • t-wizzle
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                                                • 12-18-09
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                                                #24
                                                I forgot that Andy Reid is the only coach in the NFL capable of coaching this team

                                                It's time for a change. Plain and simple.
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                                                • GotWood?
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                                                  • 04-10-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  With the exception of the 2004 team, the backbone of those great Eagles teams was the defense. Reid was always able to hide his flaws because the defense coached by a Hall of Famer kept them in games. Harbaugh, Frazier, Spagnuolo, & Rivera all current HC's were great position coaches and without them Reid is lost.
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                                                  • Brian891
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                                                    • 04-28-10
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                                                    #26
                                                    Personally think qbs are a big problem here, as well as defense. vick has reverted back to the qb he was before the aberration of 2010. New coach isnt always the answer, although castillo was a huge mistake. defense is just awful. i think reid will right the ship if given chance, but he is awfully overrated as a coach and couldnt win big games with the talent he had a huge hand in assembling. stay or go both make sense.
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                                                    • upscope
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                                                      • 04-26-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      Refute your statements?? You didn't make any intelligent statements that deserve to be refuted. The only statements you made in this thread were the following.....which are ignorant btw


                                                      Originally posted by DrStale
                                                      Is he going to get smarter in the offseason too? Yeah keep the guy who has no idea how to use a challenge flag and stares off into space instead of calling a timeout while the clock keeps ticking away. I don't understand how people can keep defending this guy.

                                                      What's to refute?? Your unintelligent comments that are nothing more than opinions anyhow that were obviously said out of hatred towards Andy Reid than any basis of fact.

                                                      "Is he going to get smarter in the offseason".... Are you insinuating that he is dumb?? The man can't be too dumb, he's lasted 13 season's coaching the same team & getting paid millions to do so. And he's been moderately successful in the process. Do you have any clue how few last 13 yrs as an NFL head coach, let alone for the same team?? Do you think that they hand this position out to just any "dumb person?" What exactly have you accomplished in your life that rivals this & qualifies you to be so smart compared to Andy Reid??

                                                      "Yeah keep the guy who has no idea how to use a challenge flag"........This is such an ignorant comment that it doesn't even deserve a "refute" I'm curious as to specific examples that you are referring to that suggest that an NFL head coach doesn't know how to use a challenge flag??

                                                      "Stares off into space instead of calling a timeout while the clock keeps ticking away"......This comment was even more ignorant than the challenge flag comment.

                                                      "What does him being the longest tenured prove?".......Do you honestly not understand what lasting 13 yrs as a head coach in the NFL for the same team & having tenure on every other head coach in the league represents??
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                                                      • ttwarrior1
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                                                        • 06-23-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        they need 2 offensive lineman, 2 linebackers, and a defensive end,not a backup wr, backup qb and backup rb like they go this past off season
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                                                        • GUMMO77
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                                                          • 08-23-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          I love seeing Philly fans suffer. Let him stay, please!
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                                                          • DrStale
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                                                            • 12-07-08
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by upscope
                                                            Refute your statements?? You didn't make any intelligent statements that deserve to be refuted. The only statements you made in this thread were the following.....which are ignorant btw





                                                            What's to refute?? Your unintelligent comments that are nothing more than opinions anyhow that were obviously said out of hatred towards Andy Reid than any basis of fact.

                                                            "Is he going to get smarter in the offseason".... Are you insinuating that he is dumb?? The man can't be too dumb, he's lasted 13 season's coaching the same team & getting paid millions to do so. And he's been moderately successful in the process. Do you have any clue how few last 13 yrs as an NFL head coach, let alone for the same team?? Do you think that they hand this position out to just any "dumb person?" What exactly have you accomplished in your life that rivals this & qualifies you to be so smart compared to Andy Reid??

                                                            "Yeah keep the guy who has no idea how to use a challenge flag"........This is such an ignorant comment that it doesn't even deserve a "refute" I'm curious as to specific examples that you are referring to that suggest that an NFL head coach doesn't know how to use a challenge flag??

                                                            "Stares off into space instead of calling a timeout while the clock keeps ticking away"......This comment was even more ignorant than the challenge flag comment.

                                                            "What does him being the longest tenured prove?".......Do you honestly not understand what lasting 13 yrs as a head coach in the NFL for the same team & having tenure on every other head coach in the league represents??
                                                            Okay, you're clearly a touch slow so ill try to explain more clearly.

                                                            Here's an article from and Eagles fan site ( a touch old, but true nonetheless) about Reid's challenge flag woes:



                                                            Feel free to simply goog "andy reid challenge" and read up on the countless times the guy has botched challenges, both by calling them when he shouldn't and not calling them when he should, then we'll see who's "ignorant"

                                                            Here's another article from that Eagles fan site about Reid's clock management ineptitude



                                                            Are you Reid's kid or something? Did you watch last nights game? He botched a challenge on Young's early pick (which was obviously caught) and then let the Seahawks take the clock all the way down at the end of the half instead of calling a timeout, leaving the Eagles to throw a hail mary on a drive they could have easily scored on.

                                                            Why would I possibly hate a coach I have never met on a team I dont care about? It's about looking at the situation from a neutral point of view and seeing things clearly, which you are obviously not doing.

                                                            Get a clue.
                                                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                            If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                                            • Louisvillekid1
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                                                              • 10-17-07
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                                                              #31
                                                              All that matters is that he won't be fired .....

                                                              The D coordinator will be fired, but that's its...
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                                                              • dlunc3
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                                                                • 10-31-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                                All that matters is that he won't be fired .....

                                                                The D coordinator will be fired, but that's its...
                                                                This is accurate
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                                                                • Gmen30
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                                                                  • 10-13-10
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Heard that Rich Kotite could be joining the staff. This can't be true, right???????
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                                                                  • mh217
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                                                                    • 12-05-10
                                                                    • 2226

                                                                    #34
                                                                    you shouldnt waste your time thinking about andy reid's job..he wouldnt give a shit if you died tomorrow.
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                                                                    • philswin
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                                                                      • 04-18-07
                                                                      • 1279

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Reid has the worst record in the NFL on replay challenges. He missed a easy challenge in the Atlanta game when the Eagles were driving for a TD and Vick threw a pick 6 that clearly hit the ground, cost them the game. He has lasted this long due to a Jim Johnson coached defense. He made a huge mistake hiring his OLine coach to be D Coordinator. Eagles OLine has been bad for many years and you promote the guy to D Coordinator?? I do think he will get another year if he agrees to fire the defensive coachs and hire a new D Coordinator and let him run the D.
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