**WARNING don't tail the chumps on DET

[ngates815]

The Falcons are a shitty team?
It's amazing the crap that is posted in these threads by the clueless.

I don't consider them anything special. They've beaten the Lions on the road, as there only decent win.
Do you think the Falcons have a chance at doing any damage in the Playoffs?

[Stevedore]

gb defense is awful. they are allowing 24 ppg the last 4 games versus 4 teams that will not be even be .500.

So what? They've never been behind in the 4th quarter all year, are teams going to run the ball trying to catch up? A quarter of all the yardage GB's defense has given up this year has been in the 4th quarter when the game has been essentially in hand.

[Stevedore]

I don't consider them anything special. They've beaten the Lions on the road, as there only decent win.
Do you think the Falcons have a chance at doing any damage in the Playoffs?

Don't think they're special either, probably one and done if they make it but far from shitty.

[ngates815]

Don't think they're special either, probably one and done if they make it but far from shitty.

You're correct, I shouldn't of called them a shitty team, but they aren't a team that others will be scared of.

[milwaukee mike]

ngates here was my entire quote that you have been bashing me for

"my point is that the right side is either gb or the over but at 6 the line is probably close to right. no reason to see value in the lions like a lot of people here are doing, there are much better plays on the board."

you argue with me for not betting it at -110 but you won't take the side you're leaning at +100 with a free loan for 30 days


seems strange that you would waste this much time arguing over nothing after i already apologized.

[Serbone]

I think you're overrating Detroit and their defense. Should be a shootout. I do think like is far though. Take the 6.5 and you might have slightly better than a coinflip chance.

NO, I do NOT think Detroit has a great defense at all, in another post I said Rogers would get his 28 pts or so but Detroit would get 30-40 and it would be an OVER.
What I AM saying is that Detroit is VERY UNIQUE and matches up well here because it has several top notch pass rushers plus some backup DL athletes who can go up the middle and disrupt Rogers and cause a turnover or two and get some sacks.
It is on artifiical turf which makes GB OL a LOT more vulnerable... they have already allowed a LOT of sacks (look it up... Rogers is near the top of the list of being sacked).

[Serbone]

Too many people on the Lions. All these teams "chasing history" rarely lose in the game that a lot of people are calling for.

Not sure on the cover, but I will throw the Packers in a teaser with the Dolphins.

Too many people are on the Lions?
Where?
You mean on this thread?
You cannot trust the data 100%, but Sports Betting Strategies has 73% on Green Bay.

http://pregame.com/p/sportsbook-spy.aspx?sport=nfl

There are different data bases on % of bets, this is just "one".

[PAULYPOKER]

NO, I do NOT think Detroit has a great defense at all, in another post I said Rogers would get his 28 pts or so but Detroit would get 30-40 and it would be an OVER. What I AM saying is that Detroit is VERY UNIQUE and matches up well here because it has several top notch pass rushers plus some backup DL athletes who can go up the middle and disrupt Rogers and cause a turnover or two and get some sacks. It is on artifiical turf which makes GB OL a LOT more vulnerable... they have already allowed a LOT of sacks (look it up... Rogers is near the top of the list of being sacked).

^Sharp post 100% agree

[ngates815]

ngates here was my entire quote that you have been bashing me for "my point is that the right side is either gb or the over but at 6 the line is probably close to right. no reason to see value in the lions like a lot of people here are doing, there are much better plays on the board." you argue with me for not betting it at -110 but you won't take the side you're leaning at +100 with a free loan for 30 days seems strange that you would waste this much time arguing over nothing after i already apologized.

Go ahead and re-read my posts where I said I'm leaning the Lions.

I read your whole posts, I know what they said.

You say there is no value in the Lions at +6, But then you say the right side here is GB or the over, but for some reason scared to bet the right side.

And mike, when you re-read my posts, you can see where I said, "No I don't want this bet, I don't like Detroit at 6 or even 7" I'm not sure how your brain works, but it makes sense that you won't bet the "right" side of the game, and you think that I'm leaning Detroit when I said I don't like them at 6 or 7.


Nice Try Mike.

[milwaukee mike]

what do you want from me ngates? i already apologized and yet you continue to argue about nothing.
if you want me to bet the game i'll bet it.
if you want me to take back what i said it's done i take it back.

the only thing i won't do is continue arguing with you about nothing. you claim you aren't leaning lions OR packers yet you continue to post to a thread about the lions/packers game.

[ngates815]

what do you want from me ngates? i already apologized and yet you continue to argue about nothing. if you want me to bet the game i'll bet it. if you want me to take back what i said it's done i take it back. the only thing i won't do is continue arguing with you about nothing. you claim you aren't leaning lions OR packers yet you continue to post to a thread about the lions/packers game.

Because I came in here because the title intrigued me. Then I go on to post something in here (not taking a shot at you) then I respond to a post of yours (taking a shot at you) and you responded back.

I don't want you to bet a game that you don't want to.

But it's funny to see you be so high on Green Bay, but apparently you don't like money, so you're not betting the game that you know which side is going to win.

So you say everyone that is on Detroit is chumps, but you obviously don't really believe that, since you don't think Green Bay is really the play or else you'd lay money on them.

I was just making sure that you're really that big of a homer for the team in your state.

Have fun mike, try to find yourself one day, and quit being scared.

[ngates815]

I apologize for questioning you mike, I forgot you used to make them threads asking why no one payed any attention to you, when all you did was post winners. This is probably an attention thread, maybe all of your "plays" threads have been.

Sorry again, shoulda of picked up on that from the beginning.

Have a good thanksgiving, enjoy the game.

[milwaukee mike]

I apologize for questioning you mike, I forgot you used to make them threads asking why no one payed any attention to you, when all you did was post winners. This is probably an attention thread, maybe all of your "plays" threads have been.

Sorry again, shoulda of picked up on that from the beginning.

Have a good thanksgiving, enjoy the game.

thanks ngates and also enjoy your thanksgiving

the thread title was in reference to all the new threads the past few days saying what a great and easy pick detroit was. i thought they were setting themselves up to fail by rooting for the underdog or rooting against the 10-0 team.
i think there is just as much emotion in people betting on detroit looking for someone to beat the packers as there is emotion on us "homers" rooting for the packers to keep winning.

i think i'm done trying to "find myself" since i'm at least twice as old as most of the posters here, and i'm not scared of anything, including death. certainly not scared of losing a bet seems like i embrace it (just ask anyone that has seen me in vegas about this lol) but thanks for the support, and again, best wishes for the holidays.

[ngates815]

Good man Mike.

Have a good holiday, and hopefully the Pack win, so the Bears can take them out Christmas day for their first loss (joke)

[neverstoppers23]

A guy from wisconsin who thinks greenbay is great and can't lost. who woulda thunk it .

detriot is on a mission i think, to shud people up. all those years when people hated on them playing on thanksgiving, they want to give them the middle finger by beating the good green bay packers. and really they have a great shot.

if you look at the nfc, i would say detriot 2-3 best passing team. they have the best wr.
packers worst secondary by far in the league. they lead the league in int's, but if you go back and look at them, they really did not create them. they were made by care-less errors, and dropped passes by wrs.

so i think that stat will come down to what it should be shortly.

mr. matthey stafford will have one of his better games of his career tomorrow. 400+ yards.

[freakydave]

A guy from wisconsin who thinks greenbay is great and can't lost. who woulda thunk it .

detriot is on a mission i think, to shud people up. all those years when people hated on them playing on thanksgiving, they want to give them the middle finger by beating the good green bay packers. and really they have a great shot.

if you look at the nfc, i would say detriot 2-3 best passing team. they have the best wr.
packers worst secondary by far in the league. they lead the league in int's, but if you go back and look at them, they really did not create them. they were made by care-less errors, and dropped passes by wrs.

so i think that stat will come down to what it should be shortly.

mr. matthey stafford will have one of his better games of his career tomorrow. 400+ yards.

So the packers have worst secondary in the league & because of this the opposing teams just get careless with the ball & those lucky Packers are just always in the right place at the right time.

[Stevedore]

You're correct, I shouldn't of called them a shitty team, but they aren't a team that others will be scared of.

They are a common opponent that both GB and Detroit have played with GB winning at Atlanta and Detroit losing at home to Atlanta.

[Stevedore]

NO, I do NOT think Detroit has a great defense at all, in another post I said Rogers would get his 28 pts or so but Detroit would get 30-40 and it would be an OVER.
What I AM saying is that Detroit is VERY UNIQUE and matches up well here because it has several top notch pass rushers plus some backup DL athletes who can go up the middle and disrupt Rogers and cause a turnover or two and get some sacks.
It is on artifiical turf which makes GB OL a LOT more vulnerable... they have already allowed a LOT of sacks (look it up... Rogers is near the top of the list of being sacked).

Rodgers is at the top of the league in sacks and has it affected their offense? Just like Ben for Pittsburgh, Rodgers likes to hold the ball and let plays develop; most dangerous QB in the league outside of the pocket. The play where he got concussed on last year at Detroit was a 10 yard scramble up the middle; he'll get down this time. The most important thing is he doesn't fumble or throw picks, sometimes taking a sack is the best thing. In short, Rodgers values the football; Stafford not so much.

[milwaukee mike]

Good man Mike.

Have a good holiday, and hopefully the Pack win, so the Bears can take them out Christmas day for their first loss (joke)

hey sorry about cutler, love him or hate him he has a hell of an arm and led them to the nfc championship with home field advantage.

i think bears moneyline +185 might be a pretty good play. hanie seems decent enough and the rest of the team is probably better than oakland. thoughts?

[milwaukee mike]

and ngates in honor of you i am opening a special line detroit +6 1/2 +100 in a new thread

you're right, i should have a little more than just the action i have on gb going 11-0

[kcDdegenerate]

Lions ...Easy

[milwaukee mike]

lions backers give me your 400 points in my other thread

[byronbb]

In the real world GB should be -6.5

[WinningIsKeY]

Detroit is the play here... Bol to all with opinions

[Koldazzice]

best point u ever made was - either take GB or lay off - not sure people heard that right but im saying it again.
Why would you want to stand in front of the GB train? i know det can cover? sure
but the point is if you dont love GB lay off sit back eat turkey play the total or lay off but why would you want to get in
front of the GB train?

[billysink]

Green Bay is a real good offensive football team. May be the best in the league.

That being said the Lion's are a bad matchup for them.

It is as simple as that.

[kcDdegenerate]

and ngates in honor of you i am opening a special line detroit +6 1/2 +100 in a new thread you're right, i should have a little more than just the action i have on gb going 11-0

lions backers give me your 400 points in my other thread

Let me get this straight...U go out of your way to start a thread calling people who are posting lions and laying actual cash on the Lions " chumps" , but you are just betting sbr point?

[Serbone]

Look at history... when teams get 2-3 games up in their divisions... and have playoffs easily within reach... this time of the year... they let down as big favorites.
(Except 2 yrs ago Indy just kept goddam covering, the yr they almost went 16-0.)
GB can coast, win 1-2 of last 6 and win the division. And they are not thinking home field advantage yet, no, don't try and say that...
Last week, it started. TB scored 26 on them at Lambeau, GB was only up 2 pts with a few mins to go... scored late, still did not cover.
I had thought it was going to start the week before, but GB pummeled Minny, rookie QB, dumb ass coach, got behind could not run the ball with Peterson, Monday night home game. Ooops.
But most of the time, this time of yr, stay away from teams like GB, SF 9-1 5 games up (though they are a dog, they are playing an excellent team that NEEDs a win for playoffs).

[EmpireMaker]

Go ahead and ride your emotion with your home team and get buried tomorrow.
It is not who you play, but WHEN you play them.
GB is the best in the NFL but is 10-0 and it's "D" is not so hot to begin with and will not be fired up, they have things pretty much locked up.
Sure, for awhile, on national TV, they might come out strong. But Detroit will fight for their lives all 60 minutes.
And GB might even come out FLAT and get blown out. Really.
GB @ 9-0 was sloppy with TB at home, was up 2 pts with a few minutes to go, got a last minute TD. TAMPA BAY! AT HOME! Sloppy.
Detroit is a quality club, has played a SUPERIOR strength of schedule compared to GB.
Detroit has a very strong "O", is desperate, fighting for playoff spot, the game is on AT (a KEY) their top notch DL speed rush will get to Rodgers up the middle. That is the only way to deal with Rogers. He will still get his points, but not be as effective as usual at all. After Suh and others throw him around a few times, Rogers will start thinking, hey, I have to stay healthy for the playoffs, these guys are trouble.
I like the Lions straight up but to be safe I will take the 6 points.


(How much did you lose betting on the Milwaukee Brewers against the Cardinals?)

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/schedule/DET

Who have the Lions beat and how have they done last 5 games ?

[Wrecktangle]

right, just keep on believing that....

[milwaukee mike]

Let me get this straight...U go out of your way to start a thread calling people who are posting lions and laying actual cash on the Lions " chumps" , but you are just betting sbr point?

seems like you got it right, what's your point?


how do you know they are laying actual cash? betting sbr points is the way to go man.
i said they were chumps for thinking detroit was the best play of the week, there's a lot of other games out there with bigger leans where you don't have to pray for a 10-0 team to stumble.


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[d2bets]

Look at history... when teams get 2-3 games up in their divisions... and have playoffs easily within reach... this time of the year... they let down as big favorites.
(Except 2 yrs ago Indy just kept goddam covering, the yr they almost went 16-0.)
GB can coast, win 1-2 of last 6 and win the division. And they are not thinking home field advantage yet, no, don't try and say that...
Last week, it started. TB scored 26 on them at Lambeau, GB was only up 2 pts with a few mins to go... scored late, still did not cover.
I had thought it was going to start the week before, but GB pummeled Minny, rookie QB, dumb ass coach, got behind could not run the ball with Peterson, Monday night home game. Ooops.
But most of the time, this time of yr, stay away from teams like GB, SF 9-1 5 games up (though they are a dog, they are playing an excellent team that NEEDs a win for playoffs).

Except GB is not a big favorite today, like they were last week.

[k13]

No, in the real world they should be -4

What's the line now?

[d2bets]

Strongly considering GB ML -190

[milwaukee mike]

congrats packer backers

special stuff, 17 wins in a row and counting