Why Do So Many People Here Dismiss Teasers??

[brahmabull117]

To me, its the best form of betting in the nfl. Its very difficult to find teams that consistently cover the spread in the nfl but you can easily find teams where the underdog teaser in their games is usually covered in certain situations (for example any saints/falcons game as the last 6 have been decided by 1 td or less)


I understand teaser payouts are bad, but if you can hit 60 plus percent with -120 teasers, isn't that much better than spread betting??

[Darkside Magick]

teasers = free money!!!!!!!!

[Djstucky]

I think it's more of not liking teaser payouts over not liking teasers in general...I agree the way to go in NFL...

[tanner40]

I have been profitable on teasers this year but there are very few that I like. You have to be very picky with them as they all look like the "should" hit. This past week I had Dallas Arizona and Philly. It hit but Dallas and the Cards almost fukked me.

[Djstucky]

And crazy in itself some guys like to win/lose after a game is over and not wait until another 1,2, or 3 finish...have a buddy who doesn't like them for this reason...to each their own...betting NFL is a tough living...

[brahmabull117]

I have been profitable on teasers this year but there are very few that I like. You have to be very picky with them as they all look like the "should" hit. This past week I had Dallas Arizona and Philly. It hit but Dallas and the Cards almost fukked me.

no offense bro but you're not playing the right plays



Arizona??? teasing a double digit underdog is the absolute worst kind of teaser play there is, how many 10-14 point dogs end up losing by 30+ points??


Dallas?? a 7 point road favorite teaser is the 2nd worst kind of teaser there is. 7-9 point favorites traditionally win straight up at a mediocre percentage (especially if you're looking to put it in to a teaser)



You gotta tease teams and situations that are traditionally a very good and safe choice - Any opponent that is an underdog against the browns (cleveland never wins by more than a few points) or jaguars (same) is a great example. Detroit at home this week was another great example - Carolina is winless against +.500 teams on the year

[FindTheLock]

I always thought the rules of teasers were to never cross 0. I don't play them as I prefer straight betting ML's and spreads instead of funny looking parlays. To each his own, but I don't think there is an exact science to betting teasers in the NFL. If there were then more people would be rich betting on the NFL.

[brahmabull117]

I always thought the rules of teasers were to never cross 0

you never tease across the 0 unless you're doing a 13 point teaser and you can get it to +7.5 (nothing wrong with those types of teasers - a situation where the ravens, steelers or pats are 3-5 point favorites at home, you can do a 13 point teaser on them and be practically guaranteed your money)


teasing across the 0 on a 3-4 point line is completely retarded though you're right

[PAULYPOKER]

Only people who don't understand teasers dismiss them,however they are only useful in the NFL and should consist of no more than 2 teams with no higher than -120 juice...........

[brahmabull117]

Only people who don't understand teasers dismiss them,however they are only useful in the NFL and should consist of no more than 2 teams with no higher than -120 juice...........

I kinda agree here



I personally do 13 point teasers myself but I think the average person will lose their ass doing 13 point teasers because they don't understand/have much experience with 13 point teasers (putting a total in a 13 point teaser is retarded, putting a 6-7 point dog in a 13 point teaser is retarded, etc...). The reason I love those teasers is because I can take advantage of situations like GB and NE this week where the SU win is a stone cold lock

[crustyme]

you are like 2-15 on teasers.

[brahmabull117]

you are like 2-15 on teasers.

6-0

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/1402659-my-nfl-plays-11-20-11-a.html

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/1390195-my-nfl-plays-today.html

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/1376753-my-plays-today.html

I struggled a bit early in the year on teasers cause I kept picking bad plays, rough learning curve

[Grits n' Gravy]

13 point teasers are not a strong play. Too much vig and you will lose games that you thought were impossible to lose. The house doesn't hand out extra points unless it is going to be profitable for them. There are only a handful of guys who are long term success stories with teasers and just from your posts brahma, it is very obvious you aren't one of them.

[brahmabull117]

you will lose games that you thought were impossible to lose. The house doesn't hand out extra points unless it is going to be profitable for them. .

the overwhelming majority of people will get destroyed doing 13 point teasers because they don't know how to use them - these are the people who put a 10 point dog in a 13 point teaser, the people who put a total in said teaser, etc...



you gotta understand that I use them in situations where I have a real advantage - for example you don't think teasing NE to - 2 at home against a crappy kansas city team is a profitable play long term?? (especially considering the patriots complete and utter straight up dominance at home under Tom Brady/bellicheck)



the time to use 13 point teasers is when you got a 13-15 point HOME favorite where you know a SU win is a stone cold lock or a 3-5 point home favorite where you know a 1+ TD loss is VERY unlikely

[ACoochy]

Anything that gives a -EV return stay away from. U will lose in the end

[ManBearPig]

3-team - 10-pt total teasers can be money, but they are frowned upon my most books now.

[brahmabull117]

3-team - 10-pt total teasers can be money, but they are frowned upon my most books now.

Any type of a teaser can be money if u do it right

[Pride]

brahma how about you make a teaser tutorial thread.

would help a lot of people out and you can prove that teasers are a valid option

[jeffdane]

whats a teaser

[dontbuythehook]

because you play them

[daimoshokage]

because you're a fukking moron brahma!

[Grits n' Gravy]

the overwhelming majority of people will get destroyed doing 13 point teasers because they don't know how to use them - these are the people who put a 10 point dog in a 13 point teaser, the people who put a total in said teaser, etc...


you gotta understand that I use them in situations where I have a real advantage - for example you don't think teasing NE to - 2 at home against a crappy kansas city team is a profitable play long term?? (especially considering the patriots complete and utter straight up dominance at home under Tom Brady/bellicheck)

the time to use 13 point teasers is when you got a 13-15 point HOME favorite where you know a SU win is a stone cold lock or a 3-5 point home favorite where you know a 1+ TD loss is VERY unlikely

Needing a 13 point cushion on a handful of games to get a win means you are a terrible capper. If you keep accurate records of your teasers see how many of them actually needed the 13 points. More often than not the points don't matter. As for your NE/KC argument, the smart play long term is to hit NE at opening number and if you get scared or see a good middle opportunity before kickoff buy some back. Way too lazy to run numbers but I'd guess many home favs of 3 to 5 points lose by more than 8 to 10 points.

Your logic is the same as the guy who bets all the favorites in baseball laying heavy juice each time. In the long run your bankroll gets destroyed. Sure some people who do this claim to be way ahead and throw stats like "Phillies are 27-10 when Halladay or Lee pitch at home." With an example like that you'd grind out a small profit at best if flat betting. The more likely scenario would be a busted bankroll from a 2 or 3 game losing streak.

You are still very young brahma. I hope you win but right now you are the book's dream. Proclaiming how easy it is to pick winners and how sharp people play 13 point teasers. The only stone cold lock is the house wins in the long run.

[ssmann]

when it comes down to it, make bets that cash. if a 13 pt teaser cashes, then go for it

[GunShard]

I prefer to play 6 point 2 team teasers on home teams that are known for winning at home.

The Ravens, the Jets, the Chargers and the Eagles are unreliable for teasers when they are favorites.

[Stevedore]

Dallas EV. to SF +10.5, 7 point teaser -130

[Romanov]

brahma! dude I have been having trouble in football. can you make thread that i can tail on teasers? profitable? i need solid economic profits within 3 weeks. thanks brahma, i know you are the only poster who could possible understand

[allabout the $$$]

you are the 2nd biggest douche on this sight(behind priskilla whichita state fan kerrywood or big ten sports at least you dont change your handle) if teasers are free money why do you play straight plays because you sure do lose them

how did the mortal lock do for you with the saints teased 13 against the rams also. im sure i can find more just dont have the time. go back to your sunday thread and read it you might learn something in there

[Big Bear]

Teasers are not my thing. I prefer betting straight up or doing parlays both ML and ATS.

I just don't like messing with all the points of the teasers, in my opinion you are better off just picking games against the spread or doing ML. I don't like messing with points. However I will buy a point here and there or buy the hook.

To each his own brahmabull don't let the haters get you down.

[hydrosmak]

brahma how about you make a teaser tutorial thread.

would help a lot of people out and you can prove that teasers are a valid option

Yes!

[Love The Action]

Only people who don't understand teasers dismiss them,however they are only useful in the NFL and should consist of no more than 2 teams with no higher than -120 juice...........

That should read -110. Wong teasers are the ONLY profitable long term teasers but they require juice of -110 or less.

Anyone that consitently plays 13 point teasers is loved by the books and will be a long term loser. That is a fact.

[raiders72001]

To me, its the best form of betting in the nfl. Its very difficult to find teams that consistently cover the spread in the nfl but you can easily find teams where the underdog teaser in their games is usually covered in certain situations (for example any saints/falcons game as the last 6 have been decided by 1 td or less)


I understand teaser payouts are bad, but if you can hit 60 plus percent with -120 teasers, isn't that much better than spread betting??

Need to win each leg 73.85% of the time.

[Richkas]

Needing a 13 point cushion on a handful of games to get a win means you are a terrible capper. If you keep accurate records of your teasers see how many of them actually needed the 13 points. More often than not the points don't matter. As for your NE/KC argument, the smart play long term is to hit NE at opening number and if you get scared or see a good middle opportunity before kickoff buy some back. Way too lazy to run numbers but I'd guess many home favs of 3 to 5 points lose by more than 8 to 10 points.

Your logic is the same as the guy who bets all the favorites in baseball laying heavy juice each time. In the long run your bankroll gets destroyed. Sure some people who do this claim to be way ahead and throw stats like "Phillies are 27-10 when Halladay or Lee pitch at home." With an example like that you'd grind out a small profit at best if flat betting. The more likely scenario would be a busted bankroll from a 2 or 3 game losing streak.

You are still very young brahma. I hope you win but right now you are the book's dream. Proclaiming how easy it is to pick winners and how sharp people play 13 point teasers. The only stone cold lock is the house wins in the long run.

[crustyme]

someone should start a thread and keep track of his teasers.

i bet he wont even hit 50%.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Anything that gives a -EV return stay away from. U will lose in the end

You could say every bet is a -ev return with juice.......if you're good enough at picking winners you can win over time

Reality is most people will lose money in the long run, the difference in ev between a teaser and other bets is not so much where you should tell the average bettor to stay away

[brahmabull117]

Needing a 13 point cushion on a handful of games to get a win means you are a terrible capper. If you keep accurate records of your teasers see how many of them actually needed the 13 points. More often than not the points don't matter. As for your NE/KC argument, the smart play long term is to hit NE at opening number

But the patriots played a game against a crappy backup starter vs green bay last year and barely won by 4 points, how can you be so sure that they're gonna beat KC by 14+ points?? A 13 point teaser in that situation is pretty much like an ML parlay and with how incredibly succesful the patriots have been in winning outright under brady, how can you tell me that's not profitable long term??

Way too lazy to run numbers but I'd guess many home favs of 3 to 5 points lose by more than 8 to 10 points.

let me give you a stat here - between the packers, patriots, saints, ravens, falcons, bears and steelers last 2 seasons - they have lost one yes ONE home game by 7+ in a situation. How many times have those teams been small favorites in those situations?? 30 times?? 40 times?? and yet a 13 point teaser would have failed like 3% of the time


it's about picking your spots and knowing what you're doing.

Your logic is the same as the guy who bets all the favorites in baseball laying heavy juice each time.

no my logic is the same as the guy who looks for value regardless of what kind of play it is. I'll lay - 150 every time If I think the bet will win a huge percentage of the time


keep in mind I rarely do 13 point teasers, I usually do 6 pointers with 2 teams - but sometimes there is real value when you got a couple of the really good teams playing awful teams at home and you know a SU win is a lock