The PINNY lean is unopposed sharp money. Pinny has a lot of "SHARP" accounts with guys betting 10,20,30K. When 8 sharp accounts all line up on say Michigan +7 with no opposition on the other side they will use the Pinnacle lean and change the line to maybe 5.5 while the rest of the market/books will still have 7
Another Pinny lean cashes with ease
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Bobby DRestricted User
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Bobby DRestricted User
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#37Pinnacle hands down is the sharpest book with the sharpest clients. They have accounts with $250,000 balances betting 10K, 20K a pop like it's nothing. It's a completely different business from the Bodogs and SIA's of the world who have 2K limits and boot winners. Those books are for smaller players and not wiseguy friendly.
Just an FYI for those who don't know.Last edited by Bobby D; 11-22-11, 04:39 PM.Comment -
No coincidencesSBR Aristocracy
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I'd like to, but (believe it or not) I don't track the lines enough to always catch them. I just happen to notice this one because I was capping at that particular time of the night (this usually occurs between 1 and 2 in the morning).Comment -
No coincidencesSBR Aristocracy
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#39I agree, but there's also a difference between juice at -120/125 and juice at -140/150/160 -- especially if it's a play the public is backing.Comment -
No coincidencesSBR Aristocracy
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I'm not reinventing the wheel with this thread, and I'm also not guaranteeing you will cash the next play that Pinny posts at -3.5 (-140). Just pointing out that it's a good frame of reference for those of you looking for an extra angle from time to time.
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#41whhaaattt?Comment -
RonPaul2008SBR Hall of Famer
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#43Ipinnacle.
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pm9964SBR High Roller
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how did you spot that move being a sharp move vs. automated?Comment -
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#45Cleveland State +3 @ PINNY while everyone else was +5/+5.5 was perfect example of what the pinnacle lean is. Cleveland ST won outright.Comment -
Bobby DRestricted User
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#47Tuesday nightComment -
Masu485SBR Hall of Famer
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#49I've occasionally observed this throughout the years, and it doesn't hit that often in the pro leagues. Hard to track in NFL as well because of pinny's lines to fukk up teasers. Never tracked it in college sports though, but I'm sure it's mad money in those. Most of the games are fixed.Comment -
pm9964SBR High Roller
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#50I've occasionally observed this throughout the years, and it doesn't hit that often in the pro leagues. Hard to track in NFL as well because of pinny's lines to fukk up teasers. Never tracked it in college sports though, but I'm sure it's mad money in those. Most of the games are fixed.
5dimes is the one to watch in NFL, here are the records for it so far in the NFL this year: (Ive tracked/played it since 2002 and got records for the past 9 years)
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="176"><colgroup><col style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:2752;width:65pt" width="86"> <col style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:2880;width:68pt" width="90"> </colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt;width:65pt" height="19" width="86"> (11-5) FAV</td> <td style="width:68pt" width="90">
</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">(10-0) FAV</td> <td>(5-1) FAV </td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl67" style="height:15.0pt" height="20">(3-0) FAV</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl67" style="height:15.0pt" height="20">
</td> <td>(1-0) FAV</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">(7-0) FAV</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> </td> <td>(4-0) FAV</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">(20-5) DOG</td> <td>(3-0) DOG</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> (5-1) FAV</td> <td>(2-1) Dog</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">
</td> <td>(1-0) Dog</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">(11-0) FAV</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">
</td> <td>(6-0) FAV</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl67" style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> (11-1) DOG</td> <td>(4-1) DOG</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl67" style="height:15.0pt" height="20">
</td> <td>(1-0) FAV</td> </tr> <tr style="height:15.0pt" height="20"> <td class="xl67" style="height:15.0pt" height="20">
</td> <td>(5-1) FAV HM</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">
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</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">(1-0) DOG</td> <td>(1-0) DOG</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">(1-0) DOG</td> <td>(1-1) DOG</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">(5-1) DOG</td> <td>(1-0) DOG</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.25pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.25pt" height="19">
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#51Pinnacle doesn't have a lean on college basketball totals. The market is too small...with max bets of $500 they have no reason to be worried about unopposed sharp money. They already taken a stance with micro limits.Comment -
pm9964SBR High Roller
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#53
every now and then you will see pinny leans on euro basketballComment -
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#54Actually you find more Pinny leans in Pro sports and large markets like NFL and NBA since the limits are so much higher.Comment -
pm9964SBR High Roller
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#55
true but every now and then (id say 1-2 every 2 weeks) you will see a euro line where like last sunday Pinny had +5 and all other oversea books had +8 and the dog won outright by 10.Comment -
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pm9964SBR High Roller
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#57this is the #1 reason I miss NBA this year.Comment -
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#61PINNACLE HAD 145 1/2 IN THE MISSOURI CAL GAME MY LOCAL GUY HAD 144 OF COURSE I WENT WITH THE OVER 144 AND YES THE GAME ENDED ON 145THANKS AGAIN PINNACLE
A MISSOURI 3 POINTER WITH 4 SECONDS TO GO UP BY OVER 30 POINTS I LOVE IT
FINAL SCORE MISSOURI 92 CAL 53
I GRINWHEN I WIN
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Bobby DRestricted User
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#62No, but they do have a much better idea than you or I do. This isn't fool-proof -- nothing is -- but it will cash much more often that not.
I'd like to, but (believe it or not) I don't track the lines enough to always catch them. I just happen to notice this one because I was capping at that particular time of the night (this usually occurs between 1 and 2 in the morning).Comment -
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#63PINNACLE HAD 145 1/2 IN THE MISSOURI CAL GAME MY LOCAL GUY HAD 144 OF COURSE I WENT WITH THE OVER 144 AND YES THE GAME ENDED ON 145THANKS AGAIN PINNACLE
A MISSOURI 3 POINTER WITH 4 SECONDS TO GO UP BY OVER 30 POINTS I LOVE IT
FINAL SCORE MISSOURI 92 CAL 53
I GRINWHEN I WIN
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#64How you close to gametime does it need to be? Or does that not matter?Comment -
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#65Excellent thread.. useful info this one!!Comment -
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#66Pinny Lean Kansas 2nd half
Pinny has Kansas +3 every other book has +5
Go Play kansas +5 2nd half.Comment -
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#67Boys, if you can spot these from time to time, they cash quite often. I'll never forget last year when Kansas was like -3.5 (-160) at K-State when most books had long gone to 6. Pinny eventually did as well, but they sucked the juice out of all the players who went with the consensus fave.
Just something to keep an eye on from now on -- no guarantees, but usually pretty strong hints as to which side is the right one.
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#68SD St game nowComment -
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#69I'm getting sd st+ 4.5 @ pinny...? same as everywhere else.Comment -
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#70Is pinny doing the same thing with TB/Car Game?Comment
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