what does a line move like this mean?

[ebbearsfb1]

for syracuse over/ under opened at 131

its up to 136.5

what does that mean? take the over or under?

[No coincidences]

Often times, it means it will conveniently land somewhere in the middle.

[SportsMushroom]

well, the public is on the over big, so the movement could be from sharp money, but its most likely just public money

college basketball lines are very soft and even a little public money causes massive line moves like that


in any case, the only bet now is the under, cause with a 5.5 shift in the line, the value on the over is long gone

[ebbearsfb1]

i like the under but wasnt sure ... interesting

i also saw va tech at scores and odds went from 129 to 138 ? is that right

[doublej95]

The movement was caused from it being a RAS play. Edwards plays after released move the line anywhere from 1 point up to 5 points.

[SportsMushroom]

yeap, just went to check and it literally just jumped from 138 to 141.5 right in front of my eyes

[allabout the $$$]

these early line moves on openers of totals is normally large when sharps and or public think a total is way off particularly early in the season thats why last year books werent offering totals on cbb games early in the year if they werent on tv since there isnt any nba books are opening them up again pinnacle normally opens them at 100 or 250 limits and then as the day goes along and the line gets sharper they open up the limits

[doublej95]

line not moving on so called Sharps, pure Right Angle Sports line movement.

[TEXAS MICKEY]

EBB,

IMO, I think it's steam, sharp, syndicate, or whatever you want to call it, money that usually will come in late, 30-45 minutes before game time. From what I've been told and have seen from my locals paid information which is SportsOptions, their steam money comes in from a Jewish Syndicate and they will hit a game 50-100 dimes at a pop. Their paid service has a voice over pop-up that comes up and says
""Steam Play"" by the time you get it, the line has usually already moved. Believe me, I've tried to chase it, but never get it.

TM

[Inkwell77]

teamrankings is on the under and I bet it at 133.5. F

[Romanov]

teamrankings is on the under and I bet it at 133.5. F

always fade TR

[ebbearsfb1]

i did like cuse under and va tech under... both moved up a lot now im getting nervous of what to do

[allabout the $$$]

line not moving on so called Sharps, pure Right Angle Sports line movement.

yes you are right but he said line opened at 129 ras play wasnt out when that was the line ras released it sometime when it was in the 136 range

[ebbearsfb1]

public might on monmouth over cause they lost first game 106-70

[doublej95]

yes you are right but he said line opened at 129 ras play wasnt out when that was the line ras released it sometime when it was in the 136 range

RAS released o134.5

[allabout the $$$]

ok so the movement from 129 - 134.5 wasnt a ras play had to be other sharp money on it before ras released it

[doublej95]

ok so the movement from 129 - 134.5 wasnt a ras play had to be other sharp money on it before ras released it

Maybe Old Edward was pumping the line up himself with his own bets.

[Inkwell77]

always fade TR

I don't know man. Unless they are straight up falsifying their information (which I kinda doubt because they clearly state many years and in many categories they are minus units, yes they do change certain games from 3 stars to 2 stars and such with line moves, so I guess you could say that is kinda shady, but I don't think they change the stars after the game starts).
But it looks like they have been quite successful with college totals early in the season the past few years.

[doublej95]

on a side note RAS totals are off to a slow start this season 2-5

[allabout the $$$]

Maybe Old Edward was pumping the line up himself with his own bets.

definetly possible gl on your plays tonight

[CarpeDime]

doublej is 100% right about the move

i'm not sure what RAS is seeing though, I'd lean under at 136.5

[TEXAS MICKEY]

And you sometimes just never know. Like yesterday, Blowdog never moved the side on the Steelers -3, while everybody else was going to 4 and 4', but they were making you pay for that 3. It got as high as -155 about 15 minutes before kick, and settle back down to -145 right at kickoff.

[ebbearsfb1]

also why is temple/pa over 124.5 juiced -132 at pinny.. but 127 at greek?

[upscope]

stay away

[19th Hole]

The movement was caused from it being a RAS play. Edwards plays after released move the line anywhere from 1 point up to 5 points.

T H I S

[freeVICK]

stay away

[TEXAS MICKEY]

And another real funny thing about all this, not even half of any these wagers are even available in Vegas. They have very few totals and damn sure don't take qtrs, halfs, and all these other lollipop bets that the offshores offer.

[davidchong]

i like the under but wasnt sure ... interesting

i also saw va tech at scores and odds went from 129 to 138 ? is that right

u like under, bet under!!

[gryfyn1]

generally it means your too late.

[WichitaStateFan]

52 points in the first half for Cuse, now 3 points in the first 5 minutes of the 2nd half for them. Strange game with the line movement.

[doublej95]

Cuse over was a winner.


A side note about RAS moving the line, moved it up 3.5 in this game and in the N. Illinois games moved it down a whole 5 points.