Legal Sports Gambling Coming to Canada?

[numismatist]

Watch out offshores and Vegas....here comes Canada......

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2011/11/02/wdr-comartin-betting-bill.html

Canada is one step closer to allowing betting on single sporting events, such as the Super Bowl.
Members of Parliament voted Tuesday night in favour of Windsor-Tecumseh NDP MP Joe Comartin's private members' bill that if passed would change the criminal code to allow gambling on one sporting event at a time.
Right now, gamblers must bet on the outcome of multiple games to legally bet. Gamblers must illegally bet with a bookie if they wish to bet on one game.
Comartin is confident the bill will breeze through the Justice and Human Rights Committee and receive a third reading in the House by year's end.
"I’m optimistic we’re ultimately going to get this through. It’s not often a private members’ bill gets through," Comartin said.
The bill was already fast-tracked. Members of Parliament decided to forgo a second hour of debate, which would have occurred about a month from now.
"I wasn't clear on how strong the support was going to be on the Conservative side of the House, but as I say there was no opposition whatsoever," Comartin said. "And there would have been an opportunity for members of that party to speak against it, but none of them did."

[k13]

Hmm, we already have Pro-Line here.

So would this be like Las Vegas style betting?

Wished this came sooner...

[jjgold]

[numismatist]

Hmm, we already have Pro-Line here.

So would this be like Las Vegas style betting?

Wished this came sooner...

Yep, apparently Las Vegas style betting.
Pro-Line can go under, its been ripping people off for 15 years now.

[Merella]

Are the odds gonna be as crappy as proline?

[DemoralizdDreamr]

We have gambling here already. I dont know what this shit is about.

[numismatist]

Are the odds gonna be as crappy as proline?

From what I understand it will be Las Vegas style...probably follow the lines out of Vegas.
Would be out of the casinos....Windsor, Niagara and the horse tracks.
We will see. Definitely interesting.

[Stocks]

That will never happen

Why would Canada do this when they're making a mint from proline. They currently have a monopoly on sports betting with proline so I don't see them giving that up and allowing something new in.

[jjgold]

does not matter if you live in Canada

You have access to the best books in the world and tons of ways to transfer money in and out

Would be whore shit compared to places like Pinnacle

[Monitor-Tan]

does not matter if you live in Canada

You have access to the best books in the world and tons of ways to transfer money in and out

Would be whore shit compared to places like Pinnacle

Omg, this is the first time i've heard JJ actually say something that's not dog poopie... what is this world coming to..

[k13]

does not matter if you live in Canada

You have access to the best books in the world and tons of ways to transfer money in and out

Would be whore shit compared to places like Pinnacle

Average person is scared to send money online to who knows where. I can't get one friend to play offshore.

[MC PICKS]

Isnt it already legal there? I know online poker is legal there and sportsinteraction the sportsbook is there too? I dont understand?

[lakerboy]

Prob will be shitty lines. I'm happy at pinny.

[numismatist]

Isnt it already legal there? I know online poker is legal there and sportsinteraction the sportsbook is there too? I dont understand?

sportsinteraction has a special license out of Kahnawake native reserve.
There is no "in house" one game legal betting anywhere in Canada. This law would allow people to go into Casino Niagara and bet on single games, as in the Vegas casinos. Nothing indicated about how lines would be set, etc. No details.
There is pro-line and the provincial lottery sports betting games, which are a joke and so heavily lean to the house I consider them legalized robbery.

I myself am happy with my offshore books too, Pinnacle is fantastic and so far so good with Bet365.

Thought it was a thought provoking article.

[numismatist]

Prob will be shitty lines. I'm happy at pinny.

Me too.
The problem is, as someone said, people who don't know are suspicious of putting their money into an offshore book.
I have tried to convince various friends to do but they just keep buying Proline tickets like morons.

[rfr3sh]

Would be kind of fun to walk into casino niagara and bet on a single game while you are playing other casino games i always wanted to do that

[k13]

I would just go to windsor and play poker all day and bet sports all night.

[AribaAriba]

not good if they tax it though, minimum juice probably on lines would be a minimum at -120. Wonder in UK where sports gambling is pretty legal and accepted, do they boot the winners there? oh well probably most are losers anyway.

[MC PICKS]

sportsinteraction has a special license out of Kahnawake native reserve. There is no "in house" one game legal betting anywhere in Canada. This law would allow people to go into Casino Niagara and bet on single games, as in the Vegas casinos. Nothing indicated about how lines would be set, etc. No details. There is pro-line and the provincial lottery sports betting games, which are a joke and so heavily lean to the house I consider them legalized robbery. I myself am happy with my offshore books too, Pinnacle is fantastic and so far so good with Bet365. Thought it was a thought provoking article.

Thanks for clearing it up. I understand now, so it will basically put sportsbooks in canadien casinos like vegas, good stuff, i wish they would put em in casinos here in atlantic city.

[byronbb]

30 cent lines on NHL here we come!!!

[lakerboy]

Me too.
The problem is, as someone said, people who don't know are suspicious of putting their money into an offshore book.
I have tried to convince various friends to do but they just keep buying Proline tickets like morons.

so funny isnt it? they keep betting on parlays of like 6-7 teas and bitch every day on how they lost one game. the thing is they are all dreamers and want big payouts so they will be turned off on betting one game at a time.

[rfr3sh]

proline and this sort of gambling will be strictly for recreation but nothing wrong with that
some guys just like doing prolines to make sundays a little more exciting, a lot of my friends do it

[k13]

I'll play a 4 teamer this week on pro line. Look at some of these...

San Diego +7
Miami +5.5
Wash +4.5

[jjgold]

Average person is scared to send money online to who knows where. I can't get one friend to play offshore.

Never knew a guy that had money stolen from any top book and they have been around forever

Even if NJ passed it it would be garbage , getting cash after game is only positive and of course safety but that is overrated if you play at top offshore books

[Inkwell77]

I really would like to know what the shops are like in the UK and Europe.
Why is everybody so concerned about 30 cent lines and crazy juice? Is this how it is in the UK and Europe? I would imagine these countries look at the UK and go, "they are making money in this country, why don't we just follow their model." Any country or town would make more money if they offered decent lines, guaranteed! Just follow what Vegas does. It doesn't seem that complicated.

[Maniac]

I really would like to know what the shops are like in the UK and Europe.
Why is everybody so concerned about 30 cent lines and crazy juice? Is this how it is in the UK and Europe? I would imagine these countries look at the UK and go, "they are making money in this country, why don't we just follow their model." Any country or town would make more money if they offered decent lines, guaranteed! Just follow what Vegas does. It doesn't seem that complicated.

Most of the shops will be shops that have a big online presence anyway - Will Hill, Ladbrokes + Corals are the 3 big ones that spring to mind, so generally you will be getting the same prices that these same shops have on their websites.

There may be some discrepancies between prices I guess - for instance a match between Man Utd and Liverpool you might find the lines shaded towards Man U in shops around Manchester, and shaded towards Liverpool in shops around there. Having said that this probably applies more to the smaller, independent betting shops rather than the bigger ones mentioned above (I dont have any proof either way, but makes sense to shade the side you know you will lay in your location in the same way Boston Locals no doubt shade lines on the Patriots etc).

Back in the olden days (10+ years ago), there used to be a betting tax applied to the customer on all bets - this was 7% I think, and you had the choice to pay it on your stake (so a £100 bet ends up costing £107) or to have it taken out of your winnings if you won (recieve £93 for every £100 won). This isnt the juice, this was applied on top of the juice - so a standard 20 cent line would end up being more like a 50 cent line with a 7% tax added these days.

This betting tax was abolished around 10 years ago and no longer exists, but this is the sort of thing that you might possibly see if sports betting is legalised in Canada + US etc - though things have changed a lot with the internet though, so a tax like this probably wouldnt work as well these days if people know that they could go online and bet and just pay the regular juice.

The question is though - would the legalisation on Betting shops in Canada lead to the Canadian Govt closing ranks and banning online gaming in order to protect the new revenue stream that the legalisation would bring ?

[4TH AND STUPID]

I'll play a 4 teamer this week on pro line. Look at some of these...

San Diego +7
Miami +5.5
Wash +4.5

lol thats the one good thing about proline. if you bet dogs you get a big advantage.


last week i won a 5 to 1 payout 3 teamer just like the one you posted by going arizona +13.5 minny +3.5 and pitts +3.5 for some pretty big money (bought three tickets for 100 dollars each)

[Maniac]

lol thats the one good thing about proline. if you bet dogs you get a big advantage. last week i won a 5 to 1 payout 3 teamer just like the one you posted by going arizona +13.5 minny +3.5 and pitts +3.5 for some pretty big money (bought three tickets for 100 dollars each)

You do realise that betting those 3 teams at the closing lines of +11.5, +3 and +3 all at -110 then you would have still won your 3 team parlay but at odds of 6/1 had you bet with a normal book.

Ok there will be some instances where the extra point or two in a game will make a difference and make your bet a winner with proline and a loser elsewhere - but do those situations occur often enough to make sense longterm ?

[goombah]

lol thats the one good thing about proline. if you bet dogs you get a big advantage.


last week i won a 5 to 1 payout 3 teamer just like the one you posted by going arizona +13.5 minny +3.5 and pitts +3.5 for some pretty big money (bought three tickets for 100 dollars each)

The 5:1 you think you are getting is probably only 4:1 because you are probably including your stake in your return.

[goombah]

You do realise that betting those 3 teams at the closing lines of +11.5, +3 and +3 all at -110 then you would have still won your 3 team parlay but at odds of 6/1 had you bet with a normal book.

Ok there will be some instances where the extra point or two in a game will make a difference and make your bet a winner with proline and a loser elsewhere - but do those situations occur often enough to make sense longterm ?

+1 not sure why people would ever bet proline, it's like a tax for people who like sports.

[thespeculator]

Prob will be shitty lines. I'm happy at pinny.

i would stick with pinny , anyways, who wants to drive 2 hours to niagara falls , when you can bet from home

[k13]

You do realise that betting those 3 teams at the closing lines of +11.5, +3 and +3 all at -110 then you would have still won your 3 team parlay but at odds of 6/1 had you bet with a normal book.

Ok there will be some instances where the extra point or two in a game will make a difference and make your bet a winner with proline and a loser elsewhere - but do those situations occur often enough to make sense longterm ?

The 4 teamer pays 10 to 1 I think. That's not that much off from most books.

[icemaster47]

you often get very soft lines on proline but the payouts are juiced to death.
Which is what you'll see if Canada ever gets single game betting. 40-50 cent lines here we come!

[rfr3sh]

I bet both but proline is fun to throw some money on and get cash in hand if you win
more satisfying then winning a bet online cuz technically you didnt win shit till you get paid