Originally posted by jjgold
Pinnacle traffic by countries: USA ranks second !!!
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teaserpleaserBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#36Mexican addy,utility bill and mexico ip wouldnt be enough?Comment -
teaserpleaserBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#37No p2p?Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#38You need foreign bank accounts to play anywhere in europeComment -
P.F.KasooffSBR MVP
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#39I have a banamex acct & atm card, mx addy. many many gringos do.Comment -
teaserpleaserBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-14-08
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#40Will look into this... Its Mexico anything is possible.Originally posted by P.F.KasooffI have a banamex acct & atm card, mx addy. many many gringos do.Comment -
increasedoddsSBR Wise Guy
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#41If Pinnacle wants your action, they will find you.Comment -
MonteSBR MVP
- 08-21-10
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#42Pinny didn't ask me once for an ID in ~8 years.
Transfered money between me and them must go into the millions, all over Neteller (i started as arber).
That basically means 2 things...
a) they don't give a fukk about who people are, as long as the deposits are clear
b) all the books that ask for IDs are full of shit with their excuse "it's the law", unless they are Aussies
Going from this, i strongly believe they welcome all US players still. IF they can hide what they are doing, by really simple methods, all this bullshit is just to look like they officially don't take americans anymore.Comment -
Vegas_bondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-09-09
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#43I live in Mexico and have an account at Pinnacle, which I never use.
Because I do all my business with BetFair and Betdaq. No time no money for Pinny.
If I ever need another book, probably it will be Matchbook.
In the meantime, my Pinny account will remain in limbo ... too bad ...Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#44Vegas Bond what do you use with Mexico Bank Account??
Wiures?? DC??Comment -
Vegas_bondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-09-09
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#45Im not sure if I understand your question ... you know, English isnt my first language.Originally posted by jjgoldVegas Bond what do you use with Mexico Bank Account??
Wiures?? DC??
But, I make my deposits at BetFair via Moneybookers.
Ive been doing so for a couple of years now.Comment -
Ace_of_SpadesSBR Posting Legend
- 10-14-09
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#46I have no doubt they have found a way.Originally posted by P.F.Kasooffraydog, you are a dummy if you believe NO ONE inside the USA are betting into PinnyComment -
wtfSBR Posting Legend
- 08-22-08
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#47never understood the attraction of pinnyOriginally posted by Vegas_bondI live in Mexico and have an account at Pinnacle, which I never use. Because I do all my business with BetFair and Betdaq. No time no money for Pinny. If I ever need another book, probably it will be Matchbook. In the meantime, my Pinny account will remain in limbo ... too bad ...
for a horse player they are a total joke, but maybe for sports they are acceptableComment -
MUHerd37SBR Posting Legend
- 10-23-09
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#48You can play there through an agent. An authorized affiliate can set you up.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#49INCORRECTOriginally posted by Monteb) all the books that ask for IDs are full of shit with their excuse "it's the law", unless they are Aussies
UK books must also comply with ID (KYC) lawsComment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#50I've been studying this garbage for 6 months now. You need someone to literally hold you by the hand (who has a Pinny acct/US Res) and walk you through it step by step so you don't F anything up. I love how the masterminds here are jerking everyone around.... oh I have a pinny account.... oh I have a pinny account. Well man up and help out a brother... jesus. I would of tipped someone who would of helped me out.Comment -
zsrSBR MVP
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#51Spot on moneyshot. Everyone has a million dollars and 12 inch rooster online..Comment -
MUHerd37SBR Posting Legend
- 10-23-09
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#52You just need to know the right peopleComment -
goblue12SBR MVP
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#53why would anyone want to play here?
one of the sharpest books in the worldComment -
SportsMushroomSBR MVP
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#54dont know about horses but for sports they are the bestestOriginally posted by wtfnever understood the attraction of pinny for a horse player they are a total joke, but maybe for sports they are acceptable
there are 3 main reasons
1. best odds, offer lowest juice from any other book in the world
2. they do not limit, they take pro action and will take all the action they can get
3. they are financially sound and you will never have to worry about getting paid
also there are additional reasons
4. wide variety of betting options/leagues/sports
5. they offer live betting for all US sports
6. Dynamic Lines
7. personally I love their software
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chilidogSBR Posting Legend
- 04-05-09
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#55You will need an IP address, utility bill, bank account, and government ID from a country outside of the US, if you are officially coming to Pinnacle as a US citizen. If you don't want to tell them that you are a US citizen, then you just need an IP address and a Moneybookers account (or another way to deposit/withdraw your funds, such as a bank account or CC in another country).
Pinnacle has never asked me for an ID. I've only transferred funds via Moneybookers. Moneybookers was a pain to switch my US Moneybookers account to an international Moneybookers account for gambling.
As far as the IP address requirement, do not use a proxy. It's very easy for a website to see if you're using a proxy. You will want to use a VPN that gives you an IP in the country that you choose to "reside".
Getting a government ID is pretty simple, at least from my experience in Costa Rica. Many people could've stayed an extra day for the bash and easily gotten a government driver's license same-day. The bank account is a bit tougher, because of the KYC laws that they have to follow for US citizens, but still possible. They still open accounts for non-residents, though. To my knowledge, they can not be opened remotely. The bank needs to see you in person.Comment -
teaserpleaserBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-14-08
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#56Thank You Chili Dog good infoComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#57Moneybooker is extremely strict
You need lots of non usa documents to have an account and of course a non usa bank accountComment -
C.S.SBR High Roller
- 10-23-09
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#58Hasn't been my experience, Neteller OTOH wouldn't even re-open my account with proof I lived outside the US. Moneybookers limits are on a tier system. For every piece of info confirming your identity they raise the limits up. When they asked for a second piece of identification so I could up the limits I sent them my US passport. My account is still open and my limits were raised. But, I do live outside the US all my documents were legit and I'm not up to any funny business. IMO it's not worth it to try and get MB, NT, Pinnacle accounts if you have no plans of relocating. The risk of your money getting frozen by any of them is just too great.Moneybooker is extremely strictComment -
chilidogSBR Posting Legend
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#59Same here. Neteller would not re-open my account.Originally posted by C.S.Hasn't been my experience, Neteller OTOH wouldn't even re-open my account with proof I lived outside the US. Moneybookers limits are on a tier system. For every piece of info confirming your identity they raise the limits up. When they asked for a second piece of identification so I could up the limits I sent them my US passport. My account is still open and my limits were raised. But, I do live outside the US all my documents were legit and I'm not up to any funny business. IMO it's not worth it to try and get MB, NT, Pinnacle accounts if you have no plans of relocating. The risk of your money getting frozen by any of them is just too great.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#60One of best confirms to up your tier system is of course a non usa bank account where they deposit like 2 cents and you need to confirmComment -
chilidogSBR Posting Legend
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#61Moneybookers doesn't offer this. You have to send a deposit via wire transfer to confirm your bank account.Originally posted by jjgoldOne of best confirms to up your tier system is of course a non usa bank account where they deposit like 2 cents and you need to confirmComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#62Neteller has a better system that moneybookers and also much easier to fund neteller instantlyComment -
C.S.SBR High Roller
- 10-23-09
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#63Yes, and then as you want to be able to transfer more funds you need to confirm different aspects of your account. You don't link up your account with your bank account and then start transferring 15k euros/month, there are limits and there are ways to get those limits raised by confirming your identity.Moneybookers doesn't offer this. You have to send a deposit via wire transfer to confirm your bank account.Comment -
C.S.SBR High Roller
- 10-23-09
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#64Chillidog, my bad, misread your post.
Though the method is still correct. It's a PITA no matter how you slice it.Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
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#65A lot of stuff posted in this thread REALLY should not be on a public forum.
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chilidogSBR Posting Legend
- 04-05-09
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#66Do you walk under your window blinds so that they can't see that you're inside? Paranoia sucks, eh?Originally posted by LT ProfitsA lot of stuff posted in this thread REALLY should not be on a public forum.
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NookxSBR Sharp
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#67Neteller is and has been a joke for years.Comment -
FreeFallSBR MVP
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#68Why can this thread exist, but I can't type out westernunion or ** or CC.Comment -
zsrSBR MVP
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#69I was always curious why those are blocked out..like the government doesn't know thats how people are sending moneyOriginally posted by FreeFallWhy can this thread exist, but I can't type out westernunion or ** or CC.
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rfr3shSBR Posting Legend
- 11-07-09
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#70the books requested itOriginally posted by zsrI was always curious why those are blocked out..like the government doesn't know thats how people are sending money
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