Scouting a QB isn't about "numbers", its about throwing motion, decision making (this is a huge one), understand an offense, feeling a rush, leadership and poise under pressure. For sure its far from a perfect science, but this kid has all of the above in spades.
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Tajh Boyd has better #'s than Luck in every category. No one talks bout him.Comment -
not one person with half a brain said anything close to what i said about Luck when describing Jamarcus Russel....You right more were high on Leaf but hey he was a fukkhead, could Luck turn out to be a fukkstick? sure anything is possible but he certainly has the pedigree to be able to handle everything..Nothing a Lock but Luck is a damn good bet...Comment -
He didn't stay in college because there was an issue with him; he did it because he wanted a degree. He would have easily been the #1 pick.
There were plenty of people who doubted Reggie Bush and rightfully so. Small RBs who cannot run between the tackles usually do not succeed in the pros.
However, tall, strong armed, accurate, pocket aware QBs do. Plus, coming from a pro style system helps.Comment -
yes the fact he is enjoying college and trying to compete for a national championship is a HUGE red flag
You cant be serious?
Far as Cam goes he been great, doenst mean i couldnt as easily say you are just flat out wrong but that would be as foolish as your statement cause we really dont know yet do we?Comment -
Andrew Luck is good, but so is Robert Griffin from Baylor. The real hype with Andrew Luck was that his dad, Oliver Luck played in the NFL, hence the Next Peyton Manning (ala Archie's son). Some hope that the same success can be replicated. He will not be better than Peyton. He will be as good as the players around him and the coaching staff he has. Don't be surprised if Matt Barkley and/or Robert Griffin have a better career than him at the next level.Comment -
Lets not forget he already plays in a pro-style offense unlike a ton of these College QB's who either play from spread offenses or are gimmicky with the option runs that don't really work in the NFL. I mean the guy completes something sickening like 75% of his passes and it's not like he's throwing bubble screens and check downs all day. He has an accurate,strong arm.
If Jim Harbaugh's early success in the NFL means anything, then that only helps to reaffirm the QB that Luck is.
I personally think both he and Barkley will do well in the NFL with Luck being slightly better than Barkley because of his mobility in and out of the pocket and arm strength. Either way I don't see an issue with either of them being highly touted this early. I've watched them play all season, last season, etc. They can flat out play.Comment -
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i just don't see what all the hype is about, I'm not hating i'm just not that impressed I've seen better college QB's and the Pac 12 is garbage kid has not played anybody good his whole career and don't even say V-Tech is good they suck and when he played oregon last year he sucked ... i've seen him play college ball and before last season nobody had ever heard of him.... he's good but i don't see what all the hype is about. He seems like a pre-madona too kind of like eli manning.... if whoever gets the #1 doesn't have a coach his dad approves of he will be back in school again next year. Would anybody be surprised if he turns out like other Pac 10 so called great QB's Matt Lienart, John David Booty, Ryan Leaf, or Jake Locker?
and btw I can't believe people say this shit about how if such and such team played in the SEC they would not put up numbers or bein any good. fukking crazy the SEC is not that good. Okay LSU , BAMA, Arkansas, and South Carolina are great.... But the rest of the teams in the SEC completely suck this year..... UGA, Florida, Ole Miss, Miss State, Auburn, Tenn, Vandy, Kentucky all those teams have really struggled this year. Lets face it there are 2 or 3 good teams in almost every major conference and every conference has weak teams there is no such thing as a power conference such as the Big East is in college hoopsComment -
Great post op! I don't see nothin special about Andrew Luck. It's unbelievable that he has highest draft grade since John Elway! Guys like Mel Kiper Jr. don't know what the hell they're talking about! This is the same guy who had Mike Williams #1 on his draft board. This is the same game who said Matt Leinart would be the #1 pick if he came out; and this is the same guy who said Jake Locker would be the # 1 pick
Andrew Luck plays in the Pac 10 where receivers are running wide open every damn game. He's the type of player who will need players around him cause he damn sure aint gonna beat you by himself. And obviously, being the #1 pick he's going to go to a bad team.Comment -
Cam Newton's early success if continued will affect how quarterbacks are looked at for many drafts to come.Comment -
It takes a brain to be successful in the NFL. Not only is the kid a football genius, he has an amazing skill set. He is about the closest thing to a sure thing as you will ever see. And he is going to get a shot (potentially) to learn under one of the all-time greats.Comment -
just want to say one last thing.... i'm not rooting for the guy to fail. I wish him the best in the NFL. I'm just saying the hype here is a little over blown.Comment -
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there is a rumor going around that Jimmy Clausen might be traded to Denver for Tim Tebow. John Fox , Denvers coach is the one that pushed so hard to draft him.Comment -
I just don't think college success transfers to the NFL level.There is no way to tell how a QB will adapt to the speed and complexity of the pro level.For every Peyton Manning there are Tom Brady,Drew Brees,Aaron Rodgers,Brett Farve,Joe Montana,Dan Marino who were thought of as good college players but became great in the NFL.I know its early but Sam Bradford was supposed to be NFL ready and really smart.In college you and some of your weapons usually tower over the opponents in talent but its a whole different level when everybody is just as good and better than you in the pros.It seems to me that the only positions that transfer well are D-line and O-line because most of the skill set needed is strength and that is pretty much universal.Comment -
Luck is 20 times better than any QB that the SEC has to offer. He is easily the best QB that has come around in many a year. He is much better than Cam Newton. SEC fans have to get their heads out of their a**es. Now this does not mean that Luck is a lock in the NFL. We all have seen "can't miss" players flame out in the NFL. Just like "can't miss" high school players flame out in College. Luck has all of the physical tools needed to succeed in the NFL, and all of the mental tools. He should be a big success in the NFL, but again, nobody knows for sure.Comment -
The guy not only has the physical tools to be a great NFL QB, he would be the design of a QB if you had one. His mechanics are perfect. He has a good arm, and is very accurate. And has a very football IQ. To just add that, the guy can also run, to escape pressure.
If he is not a top tier NFL QB, scouts every-where should just quit there jobs and lets computers do the work.
Not really sure, if some of the posts on this thread are serious. And why you are saying because Mel Kiper was wrong about X, every scout in America is wrong about him. Its just not kiper saying this, its every scout.
It doesn't matter what conference, this guy plays in. At all, doesn't matter what kind of stats he puts up. Its about his skill set. Stats in college are meaningless.Comment -
Harbaugh prepared him well. He's the most NFL ready QB of this entire class, and is a plug and play prospect. He'll be ahead of most 2nd year QB's with the knowledge and system he was in.Comment
