Do Raiders make the PLAYOFFS Now?

[k13]

Since this Palmer trade Raider fans are already planning a Super Bowl parade but I'm not a believer.

Which bet do you like better?

Raiders to NOT make playoffs (-105) or Raiders under 9.5 wins? (-135)

[Mr KLC]

With the "Win it for Al" philosophy, anything is possible.

[BigDan]

not sure what is to like about either play? Oak schedule is rather favorable, i see 6 pretty winnable gms w/o even counting the 2 they have against the chargers and winning one of those 2 (if not both) is def a possibility..

like mentioned above the whole "win for al" would be enough to scare me off, but there certainly more than that.

Honestly it really hard to say how Palmer will preform, gun to my head i tend to think he will be fine. Not like he has to be anything more than avg for this team to compete tho, lets be real the guy he replacing was nothing special.

To me it seems making this bet is to assume Palmer will be terrible, imho that is just as dangerous as assuming he will be the savior.

[thezbar]

It depends on your views about Buffalo and pittsburg [Or the Ravens**. But on the surface I'd lean to the one with less juice. I'm sure if someone did the work they could give a better analysis, but I'm too lazy.

[k13]

not sure what is to like about either play? Oak schedule is rather favorable, i see 6 pretty winnable gms w/o even counting the 2 they have against the chargers and winning one of those 2 (if not both) is def a possibility..

like mentioned above the whole "win for al" would be enough to scare me off, but there certainly more than that.

Honestly it really hard to say how Palmer will preform, gun to my head i tend to think he will be fine. Not like he has to be anything more than avg for this team to compete tho, lets be real the guy he replacing was nothing special.

To me it seems making this bet is to assume Palmer will be terrible, imho that is just as dangerous as assuming he will be the savior.

If you see them winning 11 games that Easy then you should jump on the + money right now.

Schedule is a mix bag as they have Green Bay, Detroit and San Diego 2x.

All those "gimme" games are not always so easy.

[hankcream]

Yes, division champs. Chargers are overrated & Hue will out coach Norvell.

[BigDan]

If you see them winning 11 games that Easy then you should jump on the + money right now.

Schedule is a mix bag as they have Green Bay, Detroit and San Diego 2x.

All those "gimme" games are not always so easy.

Not sure where you got that i think they win 11 gms easily as i said no such thing

certainly didnt call anything a "gimme" gm, that said they do have a schedule where 10 wins doesnt seem all that unreasonable... assuming Palmer can at least do what Campbell did id easily give them 1 of 2 against sd. Det run d struggles so once again if Palmer is at least respectable that is a winnable gm at home..Jury still out for me but playing a future trying to determine how Palmer will play or what effect he will have on the team doesnt make a lot of sense to me as i rather see how it goes then bet accordingly.

At this point i just dont see how anyone can say with any certainty how Palmer will play down the stretch, wouldnt expect him to be all that good this week but that doesnt necessarily mean they lose to kc at home.

You seem a lot more sure that they dont win 10 then i do either way. Gun to head id take the + money but not enough confidence or enough plus for me to worry about it..BOL

[darrell74]

How are they doing, selling tickets, anyways?
Anybody know?

[Ice House]

geee let me think ummm...... NO

Patriots
Ravens
Chargers
Steelers
Texans
Jets

[Boscoe]

i'm thinking 8-8 or 9-7.

[LarryF]

Palmer won't be much help, Raiders U 9.5.

[BigDan]

geee let me think ummm...... NO

Patriots
Ravens
Chargers
Steelers
Texans
Jets

after Pats and Balty all you did was list a bunch of highly suspect teams that certainly have as many question marks as oak does..

[k13]

geee let me think ummm...... NO

Patriots
Ravens
Chargers
Steelers
Texans
Jets

Plus there's always Bills and Titans to possibly contend for a playoff spot.

Just a lot of competition where to me there will be only one wild card spot really open.

[TehSharp]

If Palmer doesn't just suck outrageously, then yes.

[darrell74]

obtw-
to answer the question at the top
better bet Raiders not going to the playoffs

[4TH AND STUPID]

pats ravens texans and chargers will win their division


bengals pittsburgh buffalo titans jets raiders will all be fighting for a wild card...

of which the bills will have 10 or 11 wins, pittsburgh will have 10, bengals 10, titans 8 or 9, jets 10,




so im guessing the raiders will need 10 wins and tiebreakers to get in...


all the conference records of these teams are the same except for buffalo and cinnci which have the edge.

buffalo has the tiebreaker over the raiders for head to head.. so that means buffalo will likely get in.



so cinnci has to beat out all of jets, 2nd place team in afc south, bengals, and pitts.


i dont see oakland winning 11 games with carson palmer, sorry not happening. and with already 2 conference losses, and another 1 at least to san diego coming, i just dont see the playoffs for them.




they have one easy game this week, after which things just go downhill.


tebow time (difficult) , then AT san diego (LOSS ), AT minny (difficult), home to chicago (difficult), @miami (win), @ gb (LOSS) , home to detroit (LOSS/lions will be fighting for playoffs) , @kc (win?/ arrowhead isnt easy though), vs san diego (might have to win this game to get in?? chargers will be fighting for a bye week)


all in all , i see 5-6 more wins for this team , MAXIMUM, which either finishes them at 9 or 10 wins. that wont be enough to beat buffalos tiebreaker and probably wont be enough to beat out ALL OF the jets, cinncy, pitts, afc south 2nd place, etccc



and with carson palmer at qb, it just aint happenin.

[darrell74]

4th & stupid got it right

[k13]

Nice write up. Almost took the words out of my mind.

[Wrecktangle]

NOPE.

Palmer is not God, and the Oakies are a better than average team, but only just so.

[babyjesus]

Even with Palmer I say they do. Running is what they are good at.

[seaborneq]

Raiders have a game lead head to head and no more games with pats. Stop counting the jets as a speed bump for the raiders.

[iwantcougars]

they have a good chance but they're not a lock, i guess it'll come down to bills, jets, steelers and raiders

[crustyme]

interesting stat i saw....

on passes over 20 yards, palmer completed over 60% and had 14 tds last season. campbell? 20% and 1 td.

so expect carson to take advantage of those speedy receivers.

[TexansFan]

I think they have a good shot. No wildcard will come from the AFC South imo, so that leaves the other two divisions to fight for it.

[raidersfan]

Raiders Playoff Bound

[laclippers504]

Yes

[k13]

Chickenshit Bodog already took the prop off.

[Wrecktangle]

Raiders do NOT make playoffs.

[k13]

That's a big NO.

Bring the prop back you scared squares.

[jjgold]

They need to worry about wining today, it will not be easy

[raidersfan]

They need to worry about wining today, it will not be easy

It wont be an easy game, but after four quarters the Raiders will win by 7+.

[rochestertitans]

nope.. palmer wont be in shape til next yr.. see how long its taken chris johnson to come aroung with no football action all offseason... qb is much harder

[k13]

Bye Bye Raiders.

You can't even beat the Chiefs.

You want talk about the Playoffs.

[sportfan]

Raiders are pretenders , Niners are for real

[sportfan]

fuken stalled at the 1yd line damn raiders