Is there anymore changes coming sbr?

SBR_John · 10-12-11, 12:05 PM

you are giving out like 10000 points a week in certain contests which are cool, but these are some unique things here that people like.

Exactly. We gave away 70,000 points on the last 2 blackjack specials. We are giving out too many contests to even list including 70,000 a week in BTP and 10,000+ a week in poker.

Keep in mind what you like may not be what some others like. We have increased our giveaways to keep up with traffic. But where we were losing 30,000 points a month to a handful of small track players in the racebook, we are going to try promoting other areas. So the answer is yes, you will see constant changes and different promos. Hopefully some will be the ones that you really enjoy.

wtt0315 · 10-12-11, 12:09 PM

but what happens is you hurt players that are just here for racebook tennis and such. These are the places that need building up. The blackjack stuff is fine but in reality it only helps players that have a lot of points to start with. 10 percent of posters have 90 percent of the points. Contests are wonderful, but building subforums is the key to expanision. Building more contests to increase traffic only increases freeloaders who will never go pro and are here to create stupid threads and ghost their way through contests.

spankie · 10-12-11, 12:11 PM

One of the big upgrades was putting the word "Pro" at the top of the Chat page.

The chat that freezes 10 times a day.

SoV · 10-12-11, 12:17 PM

Please let us know when you take off soccer betting, and all the other changes before-hand. Don't want to renew and be stuck with this bullshit the next time.

trytrytry · 10-12-11, 12:22 PM

first SBR is most fun and generous with the options they provide to win or lose on these points...if your a PRO and support the books with post up you can get significant points and win lose or spend them....I was disappointed that of all things the racebook was yesterday with no announcement or reason virtually closed other than a few large NY, KY and Calif tracks in the afternoon (the so called A tracks) A race book is typically a sports book wet dream for profits due to huge track takeouts, plus here at SBR they smartly cap any maximum win to 2000 per race so there is no way to really get hurt even on a fluke win by a player. As for traffic over the sportsbook and casino and poker will If they marketed the racebook as a points option they could get lots more traffic there, do a fun contest there, suggest people play points there, ..horse degenerates will play all day every day, worse than poker players!!

the software SBR uses (the feed) for horses is 100% accurate..the A tracks and all the tracks are identical, switching to only "A" tracks does not change anything with the feed or that service. In the cases where you confirm a horse wager but it is actually past post (the pools closing) the software automatically does not grade it a win or a loss and DAX just manually corrects it as no action (Void).... which takes him seconds and he is happy to do. there is no problem at all with off times or post times in the racebook..in fact over 50% of the sportsbooks use the exact same wagering interface and system ..if you wager something at the racebook on a minor track and the same race at say BetOnline the wager is graded exactly at the same instant as SBR grades it....they have the same system..if its nearly 100% fool proof for betonline, rebatewager, betpheonix, bettrojan, bethorizon, bookmaker, etc etc. etc..it should be good enough for SBR points

Please reconsider bringing back the full slate of racebook tracks, the harness, dogs and B,C horse tracks you offered for months, (years?) they all use the same nearly perfect system. Plus DAx did not mind fixing the few issues here and there.

SBR keep up all the unique things but keep them around...a little lack of attention (Ive seen 0 people in the poker room numerous times) is not a great reason to shut things down. especially a race book where you have a robust virtually hands off system in place.

please reinstate the full offerings and let us jockeys go at it...

SBR_John · 10-12-11, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by wtt0315

but what happens is you hurt players that are just here for racebook tennis and such. These are the places that need building up. The blackjack stuff is fine but in reality it only helps players that have a lot of points to start with. 10 percent of posters have 90 percent of the points. Contests are wonderful, but building subforums is the key to expanision. Building more contests to increase traffic only increases freeloaders who will never go pro and are here to create stupid threads and ghost their way through contests.

As I said we were losing 30,000 points a month to a handful of small track guys and a few of them were there watching and waiting for one small track race to run a little early. Those races get a little easier to bet after they are over. And that race would be the only race bet all night on the small tracks so bye bye. Some of those things we just can not staff for so unfortunately we have to move on. They can still play the big tracks.

SoV · 10-12-11, 12:24 PM

BRING IT BACK

Richkas · 10-12-11, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

As I said we were losing 30,000 points a month to a handful of small track guys and a few of them were there watching and waiting for one small track race to run a little early. Those races get a little easier to bet after they are over. And that race would be the only race bet all night on the small tracks so bye bye. Some of those things we just can not staff for so unfortunately we have to move on. They can still play the big tracks.

Thats all I play anymore anyway so sounds good....phuck mountaineer and all that crap....but you do need to add Tampa and the Fairgrounds and Oaklawn....they are not minor league tracks anymore

wtt0315 · 10-12-11, 12:41 PM

John
If people are past betting ban them or just put small limits on smaller tracks. I tell you what. I will grade all tracks for you and help out Dax and will monitor the racebook. I just want to keep it here for people that like it like myself

doublej95 · 10-12-11, 12:45 PM

SBR has to change to stay competitive in this ever changing business. If you stay complacent and don't adjust you die.

blackbeSSt · 10-12-11, 12:50 PM

what the fook happened to freebepalooza for sbr pros? that sure was a kick in the nuts to geek us up and then nothing

ElCapitan · 10-12-11, 12:58 PM

Wow. A bunch of degenerate gamblers looking for their edge found it by past posting - for SBR points nonetheless. Who the hell figures this out? Was someone really sitting at the track with their smartphone/laptop on SBR and figured out that the races were actually getting over before they were taken off the board?

It really is true: there is no honor among thieves.

SBR_John · 10-12-11, 01:30 PM

Ok Rich. We will add those three.

As for the past posting we do collar guys we find past posting. But some of those tracks its very hard to verify precise times and an extra 20 seconds off on the official time can be expensive for the house.

trytrytry · 10-12-11, 01:33 PM

what tracks are you dealing with the past post?....I just dont think that is accurate...the off times are tabulated by the service you have and that interface..they do not pay off anything that is past the mutual pools closing..you dont need to check the drf.com or brisnet.com as they dont show the SECONDS the mutual pools close at...u have a robust system even if you dont believe it.

the software SBR uses (the feed) for horses is 100% accurate..the A tracks and all the tracks are identical, switching to only "A" tracks does not change anything with the feed or that service. In the cases where you confirm a horse wager but it is actually past post (the pools closing) the software automatically does not grade it a win or a loss and DAX just manually corrects it as no action (Void).... which takes him seconds and he is happy to do. there is no problem at all with off times or post times in the racebook..in fact over 50% of the sportsbooks use the exact same wagering interface and system ..if you wager something at the racebook on a minor track and the same race at say BetOnline the wager is graded exactly at the same instant as SBR grades it....they have the same system..if its nearly 100% fool proof for betonline, rebatewager, betpheonix, bettrojan, bethorizon, bookmaker, etc etc. etc..it should be good enough for SBR points

jjgold · 10-12-11, 01:34 PM

Glad SBR got rid of lots of tracks in racebook
Scammers were using it mainly
Those scammers will never be allowed to bet offshore again
I took care of that today

Deuce · 10-12-11, 01:39 PM

Seems I'm not the only one concerned.

ttwarrior1 · 10-12-11, 01:43 PM

how about a list of people taking advantage of this

robmpink · 10-12-11, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

As I said we were losing 30,000 points a month to a handful of small track guys and a few of them were there watching and waiting for one small track race to run a little early. Those races get a little easier to bet after they are over. And that race would be the only race bet all night on the small tracks so bye bye. Some of those things we just can not staff for so unfortunately we have to move on. They can still play the big tracks.

Do you have factual proof that this happened? If so, please post a specific instance.

robmpink · 10-12-11, 04:11 PM

like others said cut the limits on smaller tracks. It could be easily done. There most def is something more to the story.

robmpink · 10-12-11, 09:12 PM

anyway, I'm just saying I find it hard to believe that SBR discovered a loop hole where all these other books didn't. It is all the same.