Seriously, Is Online Gambling even worth it for American posters ?

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  • 5mike5
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-21-11
    • 52037

    #71
    Originally posted by pavyracer
    It's dead for Americans. I can't use my bank account or CC's to fund any accounts and if I ever manage to fund them again I have no idea how to get paid. With the FBI monitoring all illegal gambling and banking activities I'm not going to risk going to jail for a few hundred bucks. I fly to Vegas now and make big bets on games I like and also make sure the money stays in the US and doesn't go towards 3rd world countries which hate America.

    get p2p withdrawls and bank wires every week like i have been doing for the last 16 years..the FBI doesnt give a shit about the gamblers.(thats actually parinoid and halarious).lol..if they did me and about a million other americans would be in jail right now, but since its never happened that says it all...its VERY worth it cause i get paid every week and have NEVER had a single problem and i have deposited and withdrawn 1,000s of times in my career...U.S. players have NOTHING to fear...just make sure u dont leave a ton of money offshore and withdrawl the winnings u earn and ur fine....everybody i know has been
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    • JohnnyC
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 02-27-09
      • 504

      #72
      Originally posted by AbleFollow
      Guys,
      you have so much problems...
      Have read today a lot of topics here - and in everyone there are some unsatistied people.

      I'm a master-agent of IBCbet and can help you out.
      Let's look step-by-step.

      Step 1. IBC is one of the biggest asian sportsbook. I can offer you several options to bet there. I can guarantee - you can become its client.

      Step 2. All types of deposits - moneybookers, neteller, paypal, bank, everything. No limits and no restrictions. It is also my job - so I can guarantee no problems here. Actually, if there will be big sums - cash trasfer in Europe can also be discussed.

      Step 3. First, no limitations for winning players. NEVER.
      Lines are good. 1,96-1,96 (-104 in american format).

      Step 4. Also, no limitations. You can withdraw any amount with any method any time. No delays in payments. (Every payment will be transferred during 24hours. Of course, mostly it will took muuuch less time)
      No fee will be taken from IBC side. So the only fees to be paid are comissions applied by withdrawal system you choose. Moneybookers are absolutely free of fees.

      Step 5. well, here don't know what to say. But I won't ask you to provide me any documents, so maybe there will be a solution for you. (for example, if moneybookers transfer - it will look like a friend gives you money). Really, it's up to you.

      In conclusion, IBC doesn't need to be advertised. Good maximums on every match (actually, if those maximums are small for you, I can organize VIP betting, but then the deposits need to be accordingly high.). The best live betting options.

      About trust between agent and clients. Well, I am not very active here. But I'm using this forum for long time, have several credits. Anyway, I propose to start with small amounts to get trust to each other.

      If interested or any questions... Want to help you, people, to save you from books that are closing every day, have low maximums, don't pay you back.

      I don't advertise IBC. I don't hide that I am making money from people gambling on my accounts. It's not an ad, it's a proposal. So, if interested - I'm here to help you.
      Why arent you rated on sbr?
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      • HotCapper25
        SBR Hustler
        • 09-14-10
        • 65

        #73
        Originally posted by byronbb
        Right so for the average American gambler he should move to vegas over playing online at 5dimes or Bookmaker.
        no, the average gambler loses. i think this thread is probably more dedicated to people trying to make money as opposed to the recreational guy who wants to play in his underwear and socks.
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        • 5mike5
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-21-11
          • 52037

          #74
          Originally posted by HotCapper25
          no, the average gambler loses. i think this thread is probably more dedicated to people trying to make money as opposed to the recreational guy who wants to play in his underwear and socks.
          funny as hell
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          • laclippers504
            SBR MVP
            • 08-21-06
            • 4553

            #75
            Its a headache but I believe its still worth it
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            • AbleFollow
              Restricted User
              • 01-29-10
              • 834

              #76
              Originally posted by JohnnyC
              Why arent you rated on sbr?
              Really, I have no idea "why?". I know that IBC and SBO are the most powerfull sportsbooks in Asia, which is one of the leaders in the world gambling industry.
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              • scott235
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-12-09
                • 465

                #77
                Originally posted by vyomguy
                There you go
                Great post. Getting a bit exhausted with the "nothing to see here, business as usual for the US and SBR" crowd. It's amazing what people will believe if they believe what they want to. Yeah, just keep taking those chex from central america. Patriot act my ass. Not that I think that offshore is dead yet, but a lot of posters on this forum are interested in only one thing, and that is maximizing deposits for sportsbooks, and F everyone and anything else.
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                • scott235
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 10-12-09
                  • 465

                  #78
                  locals

                  Completely disagree with many of sbr's views on locals- they are by and large just as honest or dishonest as any offshore. If you can handicapp, get a local, or if you stick with online stick with P2P and deposit smaller amount and grow a stash - if you bonus whore/arb, You have enormous balls and I respect that (sans the shills). BOL
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                  • uva3021
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 03-01-07
                    • 537

                    #79
                    if you have a 4 year degree, go teach in korea and with it comes access to betfair, bet365, and pinnacle, the teaching is just an excuse to get your veesa and deposit into moneybookers

                    i'll probably be back there in march 2012
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                    • aalina
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 09-30-11
                      • 5

                      #80
                      All Jackpots is an online casino that offers a lot more than simply slot games. For video poker fans, the casino would be quite enjoyable since it offers various good selection of video poker games. Powered by the poplar Microgaming software, All Jackpot has over 200 games which includes various versions of slots, progressive jackpots, blackjack and video poker games. The graphics are spot on, the customer service is friendly and the bonuses are comparable to various other online establishments today. In all, All Jackpots is an enjoyable place to play at.
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                      • 5mike5
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-21-11
                        • 52037

                        #81
                        Originally posted by aalina
                        All Jackpots is an online casino that offers a lot more than simply slot games. For video poker fans, the casino would be quite enjoyable since it offers various good selection of video poker games. Powered by the poplar Microgaming software, All Jackpot has over 200 games which includes various versions of slots, progressive jackpots, blackjack and video poker games. The graphics are spot on, the customer service is friendly and the bonuses are comparable to various other online establishments today. In all, All Jackpots is an enjoyable place to play at.
                        never understand how stupid some1 has to be to waste money in ANY crooked online casino( they all are crooked BTW)...embarassing
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                        • increasedodds
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-20-06
                          • 819

                          #82
                          Two very easy ways - bank wires with banks that do wires online and credit. I feel bad for guys betting small dollars cause ** and other methods must be a pain in the ass.
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                          • 5mike5
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-21-11
                            • 52037

                            #83
                            very easy and no hassle at all...plus no bank involvment...i like cash in hand in 24 hrs
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                            • xfrozenx
                              Restricted User
                              • 05-18-08
                              • 861

                              #84
                              betonline, bookmaker, and justbet 3 good sportsbooks for USA people, like myself. I have enjoyed each.
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                              • zsr
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-01-10
                                • 4117

                                #85
                                Originally posted by uva3021
                                if you have a 4 year degree, go teach in korea and with it comes access to betfair, bet365, and pinnacle, the teaching is just an excuse to get your veesa and deposit into moneybookers i'll probably be back there in march 2012
                                Wouldnt you rather just move to vegas though? How much does a teaching job over there pay? Cost of living? Pinnacle would be great to have as an out, thats one book i would have no fears depositing in
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                                • TheCentaur
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-28-11
                                  • 8108

                                  #86
                                  I'll tell you after this weekend ...
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                                  • TheCentaur
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-28-11
                                    • 8108

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by uva3021
                                    if you have a 4 year degree, go teach in korea and with it comes access to betfair, bet365, and pinnacle, the teaching is just an excuse to get your veesa and deposit into moneybookers

                                    i'll probably be back there in march 2012
                                    Ok class, today we're going to learn what the words "scalping" and "middling" mean. First let's take a 10 minute break, it's 8:15 on Monday night in the US.
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                                    • uva3021
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-01-07
                                      • 537

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                      Ok class, today we're going to learn what the words "scalping" and "middling" mean. First let's take a 10 minute break, it's 8:15 on Monday night in the US.
                                      during the national championship i taught football, i found a stream, hooked it up to a tv and let them watch it and ask questions while i made live bets at betfair
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                                      • pimike
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 03-23-08
                                        • 37140

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by xfrozenx
                                        betonline, bookmaker, and justbet 3 good sportsbooks for USA people, like myself. I have enjoyed each.
                                        Betonline can't pay. Others are struggling to find ways to pay USA players. Times have changed.
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                                        • pimike
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-23-08
                                          • 37140

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by xfrozenx
                                          betonline, bookmaker, and justbet 3 good sportsbooks for USA people, like myself. I have enjoyed each.
                                          Betonline can't pay. Others are struggling to find ways to pay USA players. Times have changed.

                                          Timely matter that is.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #91
                                            Bigger bettors have an easier time betting
                                            They have more resources also
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                                            • TheCentaur
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-28-11
                                              • 8108

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by pimike
                                              Betonline can't pay. Others are struggling to find ways to pay USA players. Times have changed.
                                              Just got a check from them 2 weeks ago.
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                                              • TheCentaur
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-28-11
                                                • 8108

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by uva3021
                                                during the national championship i taught football, i found a stream, hooked it up to a tv and let them watch it and ask questions while i made live bets at betfair
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                                                • gregm
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-14-11
                                                  • 3535

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by pimike
                                                  Betonline can't pay. Others are struggling to find ways to pay USA players. Times have changed.
                                                  Can you give any examples? Stuff like this shouldnt be posted unless people can back it up with proof.

                                                  I have never had a problem with betonline and I am not seeing any open disputes under their B+ rating from sbr. If there are questions about their solvency I would like to see them presented, just posting something like this without any proof shouldnt be on here.
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82840

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by gregm
                                                    Can you give any examples? Stuff like this shouldnt be posted unless people can back it up with proof.

                                                    I have never had a problem with betonline and I am not seeing any open disputes under their B+ rating from sbr. If there are questions about their solvency I would like to see them presented, just posting something like this without any proof shouldnt be on here.
                                                    gregm,

                                                    pimike is not your average recreational gambler. he bets in the thousands on each game he likes. so yeah betonline can pay the recreational gambler like yourself a few hundred bucks a month but someone like pimike they can't pay in 5 digits or more.
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                                                    • gregm
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-14-11
                                                      • 3535

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      gregm,

                                                      pimike is not your average recreational gambler. he bets in the thousands on each game he likes. so yeah betonline can pay the recreational gambler like yourself a few hundred bucks a month but someone like pimike they can't pay in 5 digits or more.
                                                      I am a recreational gambler but I bet alot more than a couple of hundred dollars a month and I havent had a problem with them yet. I am just wondering where the disputes are.

                                                      I may be missing some threads, but I havent heard about them not paying on the boards or see the non payment disputes on the sbr review. I would just like to know if they are having problems or not.
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                                                      • masr
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-20-07
                                                        • 4773

                                                        #97
                                                        sportsbooks look for any reason not to pay...use a local...always reliable
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                                                        • 5mike5
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-21-11
                                                          • 52037

                                                          #98
                                                          13 years offshore books and ive never not been paid....but ive been with vip b4 and now 5dimes...thats why ive never been stiffed...
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82840

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by gregm
                                                            I am a recreational gambler but I bet alot more than a couple of hundred dollars a month and I havent had a problem with them yet. I am just wondering where the disputes are.

                                                            I may be missing some threads, but I havent heard about them not paying on the boards or see the non payment disputes on the sbr review. I would just like to know if they are having problems or not.
                                                            I saw pimike in Vegas betting 50 benjamins on a baseball game. He is not your average bettor. He is talking about thousands of dollars in payouts. Like 20 or 50 thousand dollars payouts.
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                                                            • Mastertvtech
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 10-31-10
                                                              • 87

                                                              #100
                                                              Locals that use a pay per head online system are the best.....Bookie in a box gives you the best of both worlds: Online wagering like any other book but pay/collect from the local guy.

                                                              I have to assume that PPH is getting bigger because of all this cr$p.
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                                                              • LordVodka
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-17-09
                                                                • 5206

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                                13 years offshore books and ive never not been paid....but ive been with vip b4 and now 5dimes...thats why ive never been stiffed...
                                                                Do you make a living off gambling? Sounds like if if you're getting withdrawals every week.
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