anyone use right angle sports?

[Tech N9ne]

RAS has the best college basketball totals plays in the business

After they release their totals the line moves instantly. They are best in business at CBB totals

[phillybadboy]

RAS has the best college basketball totals plays in the business After they release their totals the line moves instantly. They are best in business at CBB totals

other touts move lines too

[Tech N9ne]

don't forget his pals Cappinpicks and LolMcSuckacok

And numerous others ghosts. I think JJ is behind it, just my opinion

[Tech N9ne]

other touts move lines too

Not as quick as Ras does

[Naz18]

This idiot phillykid has no idea what he's talking about....go to his site.

And he clearly does much better with his totals then sides.

[Dutch]

RAS has the best college basketball totals plays in the business

After they release their totals the line moves instantly. They are best in business at CBB totals

According to their own website, Last year in CBB totals RAS was 105-107...49.53% ..-12.70 units.

Another reason to never pay for picks.

[doublej95]

According to their own website, Last year in CBB totals RAS was 105-107...49.53% ..-12.70 units.

Another reason to never pay for picks.

You only tell 2% of the story Dutch. Since 1997 in both CFB and CBB Ras is up 235 units. Why didn't you mention the whole picture?

[phillybadboy]

RAS has the best college basketball totals plays in the business After they release their totals the line moves instantly. They are best in business at CBB totals

105-107 49 percent -40 units last year,, be careful kids

[doublej95]

105-107 49 percent -40 units last year,, be careful kids

is the truth in you at all?

[spell]

Don't feed the trolls. Just ignore philly and whoever else. If you want the info, RAS has his records for the last few years in CBB and NCAAF on his website (handicapper.net). Just go there if you have any questions.

[Dutch]

You only tell 2% of the story Dutch. Since 1997 in both CFB and CBB Ras is up 235 units. Why didn't you mention the whole picture?

It's 100% true if you bought his CBB totals last year you'd be down 12 units and that doesn't even include the cost of the picks.

The whole picture??? 235 units divided by 14 yrs is less than 20 units a year...After you pay for the picks (and the fact that it's almost impossible to get his numbers) you'd probably be down units since 1997.

[statnerds]

Everyone on SBR uses RAS

None of them pays for it though

[longhorn2011]

Ras sides tanking.

[laclippers504]

Wow. Good to hear there are good guys in the business

[Dutch]

You only tell 2% of the story Dutch. Since 1997 in both CFB and CBB Ras is up 235 units. Why didn't you mention the whole picture?

I wanted to make sure my numbers were right. So I went back and looked at their history. I think I got the whole picture now.

I thought you meant RAS was up 235 in both sports individually, not combined.

235 units divided by 14 yrs is 16.78 units per yr, divided by 2 sports is an average of 8.39 units per yr, per sport. Do I have this right?

[zsr]

I wanted to make sure my numbers were right. So I went back and looked at their history. I think I got the whole picture now. I thought you meant RAS was up 235 in both sports individually, not combined. 235 units divided by 14 yrs is 16.78 units per yr, divided by 2 sports is an average of 8.39 units per yr, per sport. Do I have this right?

Including the money you pay for his picks since 1997 you would be lucky to break even. Wonder why they dont say that

[Frats]

Including the money you pay for his picks since 1997 you would be lucky to break even. Wonder why they dont say that

If you're playing $25 or $50 a game, then RAS clearly isn't for you. If you're playing for a bigger amount, then finishing up 9.4 units every single football and every single basketball season (which has been the average over the existance of the service) is pretty darn good.

Only at SBR would people be taking shots at one of (if not the) most successful services in the industry, and one of the few that also has integrity to go along with it.

[Frats]

I wanted to make sure my numbers were right. So I went back and looked at their history. I think I got the whole picture now. I thought you meant RAS was up 235 in both sports individually, not combined. 235 units divided by 14 yrs is 16.78 units per yr, divided by 2 sports is an average of 8.39 units per yr, per sport. Do I have this right?

No, the basketball service didn't begin until 1999-2000. Including this season's football results, it should be 9.4 units per sport per season.

[zsr]

If you're playing $25 or $50 a game, then RAS clearly isn't for you. If you're playing for a bigger amount, then finishing up 9.4 units every single football and every single basketball season (which has been the average over the existance of the service) is pretty darn good. Only at SBR would people be taking shots at one of (if not the) most successful services in the industry, and one of the few that also has integrity to go along with it.

Im not playing 25 or 50 a game. I play for real money, so i cap my own games. no way in hell im gonna tail someone else who is making me pay him as well, simply -ev. Come on now.

[Frats]

fine 20-46, point is he had down years and up years so he is a fifty percent capper, and a loser, lot right angle sports shills in sbr kids, lots of guys work for right angle sports on sbr postin kids, don't be fooled

When did they go 20-46 (season and sport)? Or is this just a lie?

According to their archives, RAS has had 13 winning years out of 14 in college football (with this year still pending, though it's almost guaranteed at this point to be a winning year). And in basketball, it's 11 winning years out of 12. If you consider this a "50 percent capper" or someone that has "had down years and up years", then you are clueless.

[Frats]

Im not playing 25 or 50 a game. I play for real money, so i cap my own games. no way in hell im gonna tail someone else who is making me pay him as well, simply -ev. Come on now.

How is it -EV when that person is winning season after season? If you're playing with a large enough bankroll and have available outs to get the release lines, I'd consider it a winning proposition in the long run.

When I'm looking to invest, I'll pay an expert for their assistance. I don't see much of a difference here.

[zsr]

How is it -EV when that person is winning season after season? If you're playing with a large enough bankroll and have available outs to get the release lines, I'd consider it a winning proposition in the long run. When I'm looking to invest, I'll pay an expert for their assistance. I don't see much of a difference here.

My point is that i simply dont trust someone else with my money. If your not good enough to pick winners on your own, sports betting isnt for you. Paying someone 1k for picks is terrible -ev, if your playing 500 a game thats 2 units right there. Your telling me you cant make 10 units a year betting football and basketball over a 14 year sample size?

[zsr]

Almost every single one of your posts is about how amazing RAS is. Obviously wasting my time here. Maybe try capping your own games for a season. GL

[laclippers504]

My point is that i simply dont trust someone else with my money. If your not good enough to pick winners on your own, sports betting isnt for you. Paying someone 1k for picks is terrible -ev, if your playing 500 a game thats 2 units right there. Your telling me you cant make 10 units a year betting football and basketball over a 14 year sample size?

Good points

[Frats]

Almost every single one of your posts is about how amazing RAS is. Obviously wasting my time here. Maybe try capping your own games for a season. GL

I do cap my own games in sports/situations where I feel I have an edge. However that doesn't mean that it isn't advisable to still look for other opportunities to maximize a bankroll. You're telling me that if Billy Walters was feeding you his plays, you'd pass on them because you only want to make your own plays?

[doublej95]

I wanted to make sure my numbers were right. So I went back and looked at their history. I think I got the whole picture now.

I thought you meant RAS was up 235 in both sports individually, not combined.

235 units divided by 14 yrs is 16.78 units per yr, divided by 2 sports is an average of 8.39 units per yr, per sport. Do I have this right?

Yes I meant 235 units combined in both CFB and CBB. Yes it averages out to somewhere in the 8-9 units a year. Winning is winning, how many services can you name and prove with better result's since 1997 like RAS?

[Dutch]

When did they go 20-46 (season and sport)? Or is this just a lie?

According to their archives, RAS has had 13 winning years out of 14 in college football (with this year still pending, though it's almost guaranteed at this point to be a winning year). And in basketball, it's 11 winning years out of 12. If you consider this a "50 percent capper" or someone that has "had down years and up years", then you are clueless.

There are seasons where they win very small. For example BB in 04-05 they won 1.15 units. In 00-01 they won 1.8 units. So for people paying for the picks those are losing seasons. Several other BB seasons finish less than +10 units.

It's impossible to get the RAS lines. And in Basketball the best lines mean everything. Just a difference of a couple of points per game would probably move several seasons into a losing season.

After you take into account the cost of the picks and the difference in lines, RAS is a losing service.

[Frats]

It's impossible to get the RAS lines. And in Basketball the best lines mean everything. Just a difference of a couple of points per game would probably move several seasons into a losing season. After you take into account the cost of the picks and the difference in lines, RAS is a losing service.

It's certainly difficult to get the lines, but it's not impossible (I know from experience).

If you consider Right Angle Sports a "losing service", then I simply don't know what to say. They are one of the most successful services in the industry.

[doublej95]

There are seasons where they win very small. For example BB in 04-05 they won 1.15 units. In 00-01 they won 1.8 units. So for people paying for the picks those are losing seasons. Several other BB seasons finish less than +10 units.

It's impossible to get the RAS lines. And in Basketball the best lines mean everything. Just a difference of a couple of points per game would probably move several seasons into a losing season.

After you take into account the cost of the picks and the difference in lines, RAS is a losing service.

You might be surprised how little that effects the picks if you did some more research every play is posted. You will find very few games that was effected by the closing number. It's not a losing service.

[Edward-RAS]

We include all available records since we started on our website for full transparency, but you really should be looking no further than the past 3-5 years to get an idea of what to expect in current and upcoming seasons. The market changes every year and we change every year. We continue to add key resources and new talent to our team. We did not even focus on CBB totals until 2007-08 or CFB totals until 2008. As a result of these changes, our volume has skyrocketed and our win rates have trended upwards in recent seasons. For example, we are on pace to shatter our CFB play volume record for 8 weeks this year.

Taking CFB from 2009-2011, we have averaged +17.5 units per season.
Taking CBB from 08-09 to 10-11, we have averaged +31.1 units per season.

If you are someone who is unable to get our release lines on a consistent basis (can be challenging and requires a time and resource commitment), or if the size of your bankroll is not sufficient to justify the cost of the service, then the service is simply not for you. For everyone else, it can be a great investment.

[jjgold]

scammmers!!!!

all are scammers

never ever pay

If they were so good no one would work

dont be a fukkin sucker

[Romanov]

scammmers!!!! all are scammers never ever pay If they were so good no one would work dont be a fukkin sucker

Last cbb season I did the math in the services section. If you waited for someone to post the RAS plays in that section and got the worst lines possible you still would've been up a considerable amount. The movements are marginal. When he posts a side/total, he has found a LOT of value, not just a 2 pt difference between their lines and the books.

[doublej95]

scammmers!!!!

all are scammers

never ever pay

If they were so good no one would work

dont be a fukkin sucker

everyone should just follow your spreadsheet instead.

[longhorn2011]

Another great week from RAS

3 Winners
6 Losers

33%.


Remember Boys and Girls last October Ras went 12-12 not sure about second half picks. He is done in foots for the year.

[Kindred]

you are a fkn useless poster on sbr, your sht is useless, not once dumb ass

you're proof that everything in or from philly is

best part of you ran down your mama's leg..when she was riding the short bus banging her brother