Carpenter best pitcher in baseball

[GimpedMaster]

This is how I will choose to remember the 2011 Phillies til the day I die!

[dlunc3]

Carp reminded me of Jamie moyer tonight...threw a lot of junk, and it was exactly what this phills team can't hit.. he is a very good pitcher, but anymore, he is definately not in the elite category. I personally believe wainwright is the best on that staff. I am looking forward to see how carp performs vs the brewcrew.. Maybe he will change my view on him

[Ricki Roma]

Don't feel too bad for him, looks like he's still having plenty of fun!

Lmao!!!

[TheMoneyShot]

Carpenter is NOT THE BEST pitcher in baseball. He did have one hell of a game though.

[innn]

beyond any debate KERSHAW

[baazigar]

not the best in the baseball but tonight he was the best. very entertaining

[zsr]

There is zero debate here, Verlander is the best, it is really that simple.

Verlander is NOT the best pitcher in baseball. Your right, there is no debate. Verlander is top 3 obviously, but he is not the best.

[zsr]

Let Verlander pitch a postseason game without giving up 4 or more runs before you crown him. Guy is a regular season ace, terrible in the playoffs.

[paco]

Verlander!

[paco]

Verlander is NOT the best pitcher in baseball. Your right, there is no debate. Verlander is top 3 obviously, but he is not the best.

25 game winner. No hitter. Cg multiple. 100 mph fastball in 9th inning.

**** u smoking?

[paco]

There is zero debate here, Verlander is the best, it is really that simple.

[zsr]

Have you watched him in the post season? Come on now, even as a homer you cant say he's the best. Like i said, how about ONE playoff game where he doesnt get rocked for 4 or more before we crown him?

[hardball]

Kershaw> Verlander.

It's not even close.

Look at the andvanced stats ect. xFip....K/9 Hr/9.... All at 23 years old.

Kids the real deal.

[paco]

Have you watched him in the post season? Come on now, even as a homer you cant say he's the best. Like i said, how about ONE playoff game where he doesnt get rocked for 4 or more before we crown him?

Uhhhhhh,what he do to the Yanks just a few days ago?

[paco]

Kershaw> Verlander.

It's not even close.

Look at the andvanced stats ect. xFip....K/9 Hr/9.... All at 23 years old.

Kids the real deal.

How many no-hitters Clayton have?

When is the next Dodgers playoff game?

SCOREBOARD.

[hardball]

How many no-hitters Clayton have? When is the next Dodgers playoff game? SCOREBOARD.

Paco...You're better than that.

These facts have no correlation to the quality of an individual pitcher.

[paco]

Paco...You're better than that.

These facts have no correlation to the quality of an individual pitcher.

Why not?

A no-no means nothing bro?

Verlander has multiple.

No one can throw 120+ pitches on a regular day and at 100 mph on his 100th pitch like jv:

I like Kershaw, but he ain't no Verlander. Not yet

[zsr]

Paco did you watch him against the yanks? He gave up 4 to a dismal offense. He's given up 5 in 9 innings already to go along with his past 6.00 ERA in the playoffs.

[Inspirited]

this thread can't be serious.

[hardball]

Why not? A no-no means nothing bro? Verlander has multiple. No one can throw 120+ pitches on a regular day and at 100 mph on his 100th pitch like jv: I like Kershaw, but he ain't no Verlander. Not yet

Don't get me wrong 100 MPH is filthy. I'm a huge Verlander fan.

But A no-no is not an individual accomplishment. The BAIBP stat comes into play

When clowns like Dallas Braden throw a perfect game it just cements the fact that they had luck on their side that day.



Either way.......


Lets drink a beer. I'm ready for Texas to smoke your Tigers tomorrow.

[zsr]

this thread can't be serious.

Obviously not. Carpenter was the best pitcher in baseball tonight though

[Educ8d Degener8]

Paco did you watch him against the yanks? He gave up 4 to a dismal offense. He's given up 5 in 9 innings already to go along with his past 6.00 ERA in the playoffs.

Not sure if serious.

Yanks, 2011...

MLB Ranking...
5th in batting average.
2nd in RBI's.
1st in dingers.
Top 3 OBP, OPS.

Yup.

Puh---ritty dismal.

[neverstoppers23]

Kershaw has the best pure stuff, out of anybody right now.
but next year, come on. Its Starsburgh. recovered from Tommy john surgery he is probably healthier and stronger then he has ever been in his life.

[ZetaPsi808]

Don't feel too bad for him, looks like he's still having plenty of fun!

who is that fat fuk next to wainwright?

[Educ8d Degener8]

who is that fat fuk next to wainwright?

Is that Brahm???

[neverstoppers23]

lets see how the guy does vs. a quality offensive team, not a turrible one. everyone on the brewers is on there game, gomez, plish, braun, yuni b, harriston, lucroy is the only one really struglging but his defensive is great .
cant wait to see us beat the cards. all seaosn they bitched and bitched and bitch, they were given a playoff spot by atl, and then phily decided to not score any runs by taking a terrible approach making a good pitich(now in his career) look great.

its on stl. its on.

[meckis]

It was masterpiece of outing. Carpenter is ace but he is not best pitcher in baseball

[Mikail]

Best pitcher in baseball? Let's not get carried away. He shutout an impotent Phillies lineup. Other than that first inning, Halladay outpitched him. Carpenter's a decent starter but not even in the top 5 starters in the league.

[darrell74]

Best pitcher, certainly not.
Drafted him in my rotisserie league- had to cut him by late May, he was killing my team.

[gangeriver]

that is not incredible. 9 IP , 3 hits and no run. Against Phillies! There are a lot of game Phillis had only one run or nothing. Already they are not good at hitting.

Jason Vargas (9,0IP no run 3 hits ) and Ian Kennedy (9,0 IP no run and 3 hits) have same performance against Phillies.
Who is the best? Definitly very good pitcher but nobody can become "the best" with only one game

[neverstoppers23]

Philies, choked tonight on offense lets be honest. Carptenter was good for Saint Louis, but did he have shut out stuff. Just terrible approaches by their middle of the order. Can't wait to see him pitch game 3 vs. Gallardo, and game 7 if there is one. Just have to beat the cards in 7 games to be in the world series. its actually a possibility its just some some far out thing, its right here. Brewers don't **** this up. Melvin will go down as making the best GM moves of all time if we actually some how win it all.

[jjgold]

One of best

No such thing as the best, fine line between like 5-7 guys

[GimpedMaster]

Philies, choked tonight on offense lets be honest. Carptenter was good for Saint Louis, but did he have shut out stuff. Just terrible approaches by their middle of the order. Can't wait to see him pitch game 3 vs. Gallardo, and game 7 if there is one. Just have to beat the cards in 7 games to be in the world series. its actually a possibility its just some some far out thing, its right here. Brewers don't **** this up. Melvin will go down as making the best GM moves of all time if we actually some how win it all.

Wow, talk about drinking the Kool-Aid...

Now look, I may be a Cardinals fanatic, but for you to shortsale the accomplishments of the Cardinals against the behemoth Phillies is 'turribly' short sighted.

You seem to think the Brew-Crew is just going to roll over the Cards like they're minor leaguers, I can't wait to see how fast your attitude changes after we're knee-deep in this series.

I agree that on paper Milwaukee is the superior team (only with Wainwright out, otherwise the edge is flipped), but how has that worked out this year so far for the Phillies, the Yankees, the Red Sox?

I think the Cards bring more passion to the table, and use it to win out in the end, in a series that may go 6 or 7 games.