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  • Ninersnut
    SBR MVP
    • 05-20-10
    • 3730

    #1
    Steaming over SBR Pokers "RNG"
    Decide for yourself.

    ***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
    Hand ID 763810
    $0 + $15 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 21:13:00 26/09/2011 ET
    Table 'Table 15532', 10 seats max, Real money
    Seat 8 is the button. Small Blind $400, Big Blind $800
    Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
    Seat 2 (playing) : dngf, amount $15587, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 6 (playing) : pinchylarue, amount $8409, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 7 (playing) : empiremaker, amount $11394, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 8 (playing) : kidkonggolf, amount $6052, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 9 (playing) : Ninersnut, amount $7344, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 10 (playing) : brock, amount $12974, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Ninersnut: Small Blind ($400)
    brock: Big Blind ($800)
    ** Dealing Down Cards **
    Dealt to Ninersnut: [Ac, Jc]
    dngf: Fold
    pinchylarue: Fold
    empiremaker: Fold
    kidkonggolf: Raise ($6002)
    Ninersnut: Raise ($7294)
    brock: Fold
    kidkonggolf: Show Cards ($0)
    Ninersnut: Show Cards ($0)
    ** Dealing Flop **
    Community cards: [Kc, Qh, 9c]
    ** Dealing Turn **
    Community cards: [7h]
    ** Dealing River **
    Community cards: [6d]
    ** End Round **
    ** Evaluate **
    Ninersnut: Show Cards ($0)
    kidkonggolf: Show Cards ($0)
    ** Showdown **
    Main pot $13104, Rake $0
    Side pot #1 $1292, Rake $0
    Summary kidkonggolf: bet $6002, won $13104, net $7102, HoleCards [8s, 5s], HiHand [a straight, five to nine] [9c, 8s, 7h, 6d, 5s], won $13104 from main pot
    Summary Ninersnut: bet $7694, won $1292, net $-6402, HoleCards [Ac, Jc], HiHand [high card ace] [Ac, Kc, Qh, Jc, 9c], won $1292 from side pot #1





    ***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
    Hand ID 763839
    $1/$2 NL Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 21:18:00 26/09/2011 ET
    Table 'Barreled In', 10 seats max, Real money
    Seat 7 is the button. Small Blind $1, Big Blind $2
    Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
    Seat 1 (playing) : Ninersnut, amount $134.50, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 6 (playing) : tkim8404, amount $44.60, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Seat 7 (playing) : playersonly69, amount $360.80, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
    Ninersnut: Small Blind ($1)
    tkim8404: Big Blind ($2)
    ** Dealing Down Cards **
    Dealt to Ninersnut: [Js, 8s]
    playersonly69: Raise ($7)
    Ninersnut: Call ($6)
    tkim8404: Call ($5)
    ** Dealing Flop **
    Community cards: [4s, 7s, 2s]
    Ninersnut: Check ($0)
    tkim8404: Bet ($4)
    playersonly69: Raise ($12)
    Ninersnut: Raise ($127.50)
    tkim8404: Call ($33.60)
    playersonly69: Call ($115.50)
    Ninersnut: Show Cards ($0)
    tkim8404: Show Cards ($0)
    playersonly69: Show Cards ($0)
    ** Dealing Turn **
    Community cards: [Jh]
    ** Dealing River **
    Community cards: [Ts]
    ** End Round **
    ** Evaluate **
    Ninersnut: Show Cards ($0)
    tkim8404: Show Cards ($0)
    playersonly69: Show Cards ($0)
    ** Showdown **
    Main pot $132.80, Rake $1
    Side pot #1 $179.80, Rake $0
    Summary Ninersnut: bet $134.50, won $0, net $-134.50
    Summary tkim8404: bet $44.60, won $0, net $-44.60
    Summary playersonly69: bet $134.50, won $312.60, net $178.10, HoleCards [As, 6h], HiHand [a flush, ace high] [As, Ts, 7s, 4s, 2s], won $132.80 from main pot, won $179.80 from side pot #1

    Is there ever a time miracle river doesn't hit on this software?
  • BigDaddy
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-01-06
    • 8378

    #2
    what happened?

    PO flopped the nut flush draw
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    • Ninersnut
      SBR MVP
      • 05-20-10
      • 3730

      #3
      Nothing good. In tourny basically the only 2 cards that would need to hit actually do hit. ( have a flush draw so take away some of his outs) Than take those winnings and take em to cash table for roll over flop flush and another come from behind on the river.
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      • BigDaddy
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-01-06
        • 8378

        #4
        thats poker
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        • DrStale
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-07-08
          • 9692

          #5
          Haha, first time playing poker? Cant really make a judgment off of two hands
          Originally posted by Dark Horse
          If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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          • k13
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-16-10
            • 18104

            #6
            That's all you have? I've been 95%+ fave on the flop so many times and can't remember the last time any of them won.

            Today, 88 .. flop 10 8 2 vs KJ

            Lose, not like I was expecting to win.
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            • mattmc419
              SBR MVP
              • 12-16-10
              • 3951

              #7
              Lately I haven't been rivered as much as I've been losing with two over cards.

              It'll be say, AK or KQ vs. 10J and they will pair the 10 on the flop or turn.

              Today it was AK vs 108 and of course an 8 hit.
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              • Bcatswin
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-21-10
                • 13931

                #8
                Does happen a lot on here, but as was stated its poker and if you don't like the software, simple solution. Don't play.
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                • matelionis
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 11-27-09
                  • 214

                  #9
                  Is this tournament or cash game?
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                  • BigDaddy
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-01-06
                    • 8378

                    #10
                    this past saturday's knock out the prick tourney

                    check this beat out

                    1st hand of the tourney i limp with KK hoping to get raised.

                    and i didnt start a thread about it

                    lol

                    ***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
                    Hand ID 753665
                    $0 + $15 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 15:02:37 24/09/2011 ET
                    Table 'Table 15351', 10 seats max, Real money
                    Seat 6 is the button. Small Blind $10, Big Blind $20
                    Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
                    Seat 1 (playing) : BigDaddy, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                    Seat 2 (playing) : Sanka, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                    Seat 3 (playing) : brad89, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                    Seat 4 (playing) : pete0, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                    Seat 5 (playing) : oiler, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                    Seat 6 (playing) : pokerpro44, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                    Seat 7 (playing) : 20four7, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                    Seat 8 (playing) : aca, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                    Seat 9 (playing) : conan, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                    Seat 10 (playing) : BobLoblaw, amount $1500, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                    20four7: Small Blind ($10)
                    aca: Big Blind ($20)
                    ** Dealing Down Cards **
                    Dealt to BigDaddy: [Kc, Kh]
                    conan: Fold
                    BobLoblaw: Fold
                    BigDaddy: Call ($20)
                    Sanka: Fold
                    brad89: Raise ($40)
                    pete0: Call ($40)
                    oiler: Fold
                    pokerpro44: Fold
                    20four7: Call ($30)
                    aca: Fold
                    BigDaddy: Raise ($1500)
                    brad89: Call ($1460)
                    pete0: Fold
                    20four7: Fold
                    BigDaddy: Show Cards ($0)
                    brad89: Show Cards ($0)
                    ** Dealing Flop **
                    Community cards: [6s, 4h, Ah]
                    ** Dealing Turn **
                    Community cards: [4c]
                    ** Dealing River **
                    Community cards: [Qd]
                    ** End Round **
                    ** Evaluate **
                    BigDaddy: Show Cards ($0)
                    brad89: Show Cards ($0)
                    ** Showdown **
                    Main pot $3100, Rake $0
                    Summary BigDaddy: bet $1520, won $0, net $-1520
                    Summary brad89: bet $1500, won $3100, net $1600, HoleCards [4d, 6d], HiHand [a full house, fours full of sixes] [4h, 4d, 4c, 6s, 6d], won $3100 from main pot
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                    • daneblazer
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 09-14-08
                      • 27861

                      #11
                      looks pretty random to me
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                      • gauchojake
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 09-17-10
                        • 34116

                        #12
                        brad89 is god
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                        • daneblazer
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 09-14-08
                          • 27861

                          #13
                          I've always found it amusing that in trying to prove that a RNG is not random, people post small samples sizes of outlier examples thus inadvertently proving that the RNG is indeed random.
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                          • downsouth
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-13-11
                            • 11580

                            #14
                            85 vs AJ is really not that big of a deal. 85 is live could have just as easily hit off suit 8 or 5 and still won hand. Only like 58/42 preflop or so.

                            Second hand after flop guy wins about 28% of time so that is a little worse.
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                            • zam77
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-03-10
                              • 3586

                              #15
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                              • k13
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-16-10
                                • 18104

                                #16
                                another day another typical exit

                                aq vs qj

                                flop aqj

                                you know the rest
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                                • BigDaddy
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-01-06
                                  • 8378

                                  #17
                                  hand just played

                                  you see thats poker.

                                  ***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
                                  Hand ID 767012
                                  $0 + $15 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 13:21:00 27/09/2011 ET
                                  Table 'Table 15591', 10 seats max, Real money
                                  Seat 3 is the button. Small Blind $25, Big Blind $50
                                  Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10
                                  Seat 1 (playing) : mikey470, amount $1390, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                                  Seat 2 (playing) : boeingpower, amount $1490, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                                  Seat 3 (playing) : decado, amount $1388, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                                  Seat 4 (playing) : tunaguitar76, amount $1361, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                                  Seat 6 (playing) : Stifler, amount $2886, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                                  Seat 7 (playing) : philavanh, amount $4207, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                                  Seat 8 (playing) : timmyboy34243, amount $4800, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                                  Seat 9 (playing) : BigDaddy, amount $915, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
                                  tunaguitar76: Small Blind ($25)
                                  Stifler: Big Blind ($50)
                                  ** Dealing Down Cards **
                                  Dealt to BigDaddy: [Kc, Ah]
                                  philavanh: Raise ($100)
                                  timmyboy34243: Call ($100)
                                  BigDaddy: Raise ($915)
                                  mikey470: Fold
                                  boeingpower: Fold
                                  decado: Fold
                                  tunaguitar76: Fold
                                  Stifler: Fold
                                  philavanh: Fold
                                  timmyboy34243: Call ($815)
                                  timmyboy34243: Show Cards ($0)
                                  BigDaddy: Show Cards ($0)
                                  ** Dealing Flop **
                                  Community cards: [Qd, Kd, 5d]
                                  ** Dealing Turn **
                                  Community cards: [Jd]
                                  ** Dealing River **
                                  Community cards: [Ad]
                                  ** End Round **
                                  ** Evaluate **
                                  timmyboy34243: Show Cards ($0)
                                  BigDaddy: Show Cards ($0)
                                  ** Showdown **
                                  Main pot $2005, Rake $0
                                  Summary timmyboy34243: bet $915, won $1003, net $88, HoleCards [Ac, Qs], HiHand [a flush, ace high] [Ad, Kd, Qd, Jd, 5d], won $1003 from main pot
                                  Summary BigDaddy: bet $915, won $1002, net $87, HoleCards [Kc, Ah], HiHand [a flush, ace high] [Ad, Kd, Qd, Jd, 5d], won $1002 from main pot
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                                  • jetsjets1028
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-10-10
                                    • 1234

                                    #18
                                    lots of money to be won unfourt us non pros dont get win anything
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                                    • Glitch
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-08-09
                                      • 11795

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jetsjets1028
                                      lots of money to be won unfourt us non pros dont get win anything
                                      you can just keep saving and betting your points and become pro one day when you are comfortable doing-so.
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                                      • d2bets
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 39995

                                        #20
                                        Shit happens. You play long enough, you see it go both ways. As they say, that's poker. If you can't handle bad beats, then don't play.
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                                        • jayfly
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-18-09
                                          • 1234

                                          #21
                                          The rng here at sbr is just like all the other rngs out there. Designed to generate as much action as possible, therefore creating more rake. Anyone who does not think this is true is very naive. I am not saying its rigged or favors any one player. It is just not possible to have a flush, straight or paired flop 75% of the time like we see on all online sites. Too bad sites feel the need to do this as I think it does eliminate some skill from the game.
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                                          • Roxxyfish
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-26-09
                                            • 12066

                                            #22
                                            stfu
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                                            • DrStale
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-07-08
                                              • 9692

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jayfly
                                              The rng here at sbr is just like all the other rngs out there. Designed to generate as much action as possible, therefore creating more rake. Anyone who does not think this is true is very naive. I am not saying its rigged or favors any one player. It is just not possible to have a flush, straight or paired flop 75% of the time like we see on all online sites. Too bad sites feel the need to do this as I think it does eliminate some skill from the game.
                                              Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                              If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                              • jayfly
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-18-09
                                                • 1234

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Roxxyfish
                                                stfu
                                                were you talking to me?
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                                                • atama ga katai
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 12-08-09
                                                  • 366

                                                  #25
                                                  </PRE>
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                                                  • nomeansno
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 05-01-10
                                                    • 585

                                                    #26
                                                    You guys just can't stop making these ridiculously pointless threads do you
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                                                    • infamousbacardi
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-16-08
                                                      • 4556

                                                      #27
                                                      I understand all the originalist and cliche guys on here w/ there, "that's poker" bullshit and what have you...but anyone who has played this software for over a month on a daily basis and DOESN'T think this software is ridiculous, really blows my mind.

                                                      I lose 1 and 2 outers on a regular basis...yes, I play a lot on the tables here, it's going to happen some, but if you are behind in this software, you are ahead. River is wet 80% of the time....and it's far from live poker statistics...

                                                      That being said, that's why there are internet players, and there are live players...this is INTERNET POKER...you have to understand that to be successful. You can take more chances, you can stay in on more draws, if you are playing the same way on INTERNET poker as you are on LIVE poker, then you're playing a fool's game.

                                                      I'll be the first to complain about this software...but at the end of the day, you have to remember that this is INTERNET POKER...it isn't live poker...but that goes both ways...don't act like this software doesn't hit more often than live games...because it does. However, you need to know that, and adjust the way you play I guess.
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                                                      • daneblazer
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 09-14-08
                                                        • 27861

                                                        #28
                                                        Some of the logic people on this forum use is amazing. Threads like this make me feel good because I know there is still money to be won playing poker.
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                                                        • Doc JS
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-15-06
                                                          • 6885

                                                          #29
                                                          it's all rigged !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                                          • pavyracer
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-12-07
                                                            • 82839

                                                            #30
                                                            It's rigged. I quit playing in the tourneys because of that. Anyone remember that cheater I exposed last month (arkytoothis??)? Yeah he disappeared after he tried to pull this crap on me in a tourney.
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                                                            • Ninersnut
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-20-10
                                                              • 3730

                                                              #31
                                                              I love the nay sayers that come in here and say "that's poker" you show me anywhere that deals AA 8 times on the same table in 35 minutes.
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                                                              • pavyracer
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-12-07
                                                                • 82839

                                                                #32
                                                                I can't tell you how many times I lost on the river with a flush or a fullhouse. It's like the software tries to find the 3% card that will make me lose and delivers it. This is not normal poker that you see at the Christmas family game. It's programmed into the software.
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                                                                • lolbear
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-10-09
                                                                  • 756

                                                                  #33
                                                                  this type of threads is the reason why I miss playing on fulltilt/pstars
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