Is MMA the most "beatable" sport???

[iifold]

Thoughts?

[BIGDAY]

For me it is by far my most profitable,

[spankie]

I think it's definitely more predictable than any football, basketball, or baseball game.

[chemicalbrother]

lines have definitely tightened up, it was a license to steal 5 or 6 years ago.

[katstale]

I guess if you mean is it the most difficult for the books to handicap? Then yes it is. Similar to when WNBA first came out. Nobody had a clue what lines to put out and still don't to some extent. An MMA fight that is listed at -200 or tighter is essentially a coin flip, thus good value can be had betting dogs if you do your research. I added this stuff to my portfolio about 9 months ago and I only wish more people would bring their opinions/wagers to Match.

[jjgold]

Its getting closer and closer to being rigged because money is increasing

When big money is involved corruption is right around the corner

[unusialsusp5]

it's rehearsed and fixed isn't it. of course if would be easier since someone knows the result ahead of time.

[Glitch]

it's rehearsed and fixed isn't it. of course if would be easier since someone knows the result ahead of time.

huge difference between wrestling and MMA. mixed martial arts is not scripted.

[will2survive]

it's favorable to the bettor. Guys fight in a consistent manner and the outcome can be determined most of the time. When you get into "by submission or decision?", that's where it becomes more difficult.

[doublej95]

still a lot of high odds on the moneylines. money to be made if you got the balls to lay it.

[CAS2550]

still a lot of high odds on the moneylines. money to be made if you got the balls to lay it.

exactly right.. not very beneficial to play dogs consistantly thats for sure.. but you gotta have deep pockets to win big. obviously VERY easy to call.. but when that one dog POS fighter or the up and comer who no one thinks can pull a w and actually does.. your out a few chips ha

[GunShard]

Definitely has profitable parlays.

[Chairib]

Its getting closer and closer to being rigged because money is increasing

When big money is involved corruption is right around the corner

[Educ8d Degener8]

Lines have tightened up even in the 2+ years I've been betting it... Used to bet football-only on betjamaica which had sh*t mma options, and then found 5dimes and it's mma options.

I can only imagine some of the value that was around long ago before the sport started taking off and books had no choice but to get sharper...

But that's not to say that books still don't release a softy here and there (see Matt Mitrione opening as a dog against Kimbo, and even his closing line for that matter; and more recently one I was unable to nab - Brenneman's opening line against Story due to the last minute nature of the match; etc).

Though now, even when a line opens soft, it moves fast as f*ck thanks to people like Vaughn and Ill (freakin d*ckwads)... ;p

I wanna hear some stories from you old timers... favorite lines from the old days where you rob'd the books.

[Chairib]

Lines have tightened up even in the 2+ years I've been betting it... Used to bet football-only on betjamaica which had sh*t mma options, and then found 5dimes and it's mma options.

I can only imagine some of the value that was around long ago before the sport started taking off and books had no choice but to get sharper...

But that's not to say that books still don't release a softy here and there (see Matt Mitrione opening as a dog against Kimbo, and even his closing line for that matter; and more recently one I was unable to nab - Brenneman's opening line against Story due to the last minute nature of the match; etc).

Though now, even when a line opens soft, it moves fast as f*ck thanks to people like Vaughany... ;p

I wanna hear some stories from you old timers... favorite lines from the old days where you rob'd the books.

Betting on the draw over at mvpsportsbook for Wanderlei Silva vs Crocop I

[gabe]

i do pretty well with most sports, but best with MMA.

[Educ8d Degener8]

Ah Cro Cop! That's another recent book softy -- his opening line against Schaub. That line reversed parabolically from all the sharps maxing it out, iirc.

[gabe]

Lines have tightened up even in the 2+ years I've been betting it... Used to bet football-only on betjamaica which had sh*t mma options, and then found 5dimes and it's mma options.

I can only imagine some of the value that was around long ago before the sport started taking off and books had no choice but to get sharper...

But that's not to say that books still don't release a softy here and there (see Matt Mitrione opening as a dog against Kimbo, and even his closing line for that matter; and more recently one I was unable to nab - Brenneman's opening line against Story due to the last minute nature of the match; etc).

Though now, even when a line opens soft, it moves fast as f*ck thanks to people like Vaughn and Ill (freakin d*ckwads)... ;p

I wanna hear some stories from you old timers... favorite lines from the old days where you rob'd the books.

i see mitrione listed as slight favorite. you think he's a sure bet against kongo?

[Educ8d Degener8]

i see mitrione listed as slight favorite. you think he's a sure bet against kongo?

I was referring to Mitrione's fight with Kimbo (not Kongo) in 2010, where Mitrione opened as a dog.


You say potato, I say potato.
You say Kimbo, I say Kongo.

[gabe]

I was referring to Mitrione's fight with Kimbo (not Kongo) in 2010, where Mitrione opened as a dog.


You say potato, I say potato.
You say Kimbo, I say Kongo.

ha- my bad

[Kaladarus]

It is the most profitable. Look at all the threads here that have people posting units and picks every event. Try and find someone who has negative units.

Also it's the only sport SBR doesn't allow parlays in there book and they've had to lower max bets to 250 points.

You are handicapping one person. Many times you can find out everything you need to know about this one person. A lot of fighters show you training, you can find their history and past fighting accomplishments, tapes are available showing all their past fights, you know where they train, who they train with and many fighters will even go as far as to video tape their diet and let us know how they are doing and how the weight cut went. There is so much information available.

[Chairib]

Ah Cro Cop! That's another recent book softy -- his opening line against Schaub. That line reversed parabolically from all the sharps maxing it out, iirc.

That was the first big bet I made on MMA back in 2002. The had the draw at around +1000 and the fight would be ruled an automatic draw if it went all five rounds. MVP wouldn't let me bet more than 500 on the fight, but still 500 got me around 5000 which was nice.

[brahmabull117]

I wonder how much money bettors have made on Fedor Emalienko over the years



didn't he have like a 30 match win streak?

[iifold]

Brahma,

Does your rooster get hard when you see all the chalk involved with most MMA bouts??

[bogbat]

Betting on the draw over at mvpsportsbook for Wanderlei Silva vs Crocop I

This, lines makers did not know if there was not a stoppage the outcome would be judged as an automatic draw. Made many people a lot of money.

[Educ8d Degener8]

This, lines makers did not know if there was not a stoppage the outcome would be judged as an automatic draw. Made many people a lot of money.

F*cking awesome.

[ebbearsfb1]

i dont know how you can lay chalk in mma, unless its pierre or silva,


all it takes is one shot to the mug and its over...


unless its turning into wrestling

[illmatick]

Yeah, top 3 that's for sure. All it takes is a basic understanding of the market and an understanding of individual match-ups.

It is the most profitable. Look at all the threads here that have people posting units and picks every event. Try and find someone who has negative units.

I don't know about this. You might be surprised if you totaled up how many people used to have threads here that ended up disappearing.

The truth is the market isn't anywhere near as soft as it was a few years ago. Linemakers are slowly catching-up and the gap in talent level has been seriously shrinking.

Damn charib, that must have been nice. Wish i had been taking my handicapping seriously back then.

[cheeese]

I think I agree it is the easiest to beat as evidenced by the large movements in lines from open to close. Profitable is a different story. I don't think you can get enough volume at the limits they offer to make it more profitable than the major sports.

[marcoloco]

yes for me mma is where i make the most

[InTheDrink]

Brahma,

Does your rooster get hard when you see all the chalk involved with most MMA bouts??

[NunyaBidness]

I wonder why books even post MMA lines. I've never heard of anyone losing at it.

Still trying to figure out how everyone in my home pokergame is beating it too.

[illmatick]

I wonder why books even post MMA lines. I've never heard of anyone losing at it.

Still trying to figure out how everyone in my home pokergame is beating it too.

True, but people still consistently over bet their edge.

Your avg MMA fan is likely down from that alone. When I say avg MMA fan I mean Jesus/Gabe.

The Lock fallacy, etc. etc.

[Vaughany]

it's rehearsed and fixed isn't it. of course if would be easier since someone knows the result ahead of time.

Amazing how retarded some people are out there!

[terpkeg]

Cain Velasquez opened as aan underdog to Brad Morris in his UFC debut.