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  • Shenlong
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-21-11
    • 7

    #1
    YouWin void (YouLost)
    Hello everyone

    I have placed my bet on Tennis match last night @ YOUWIN.com Y.H. LU vs Zopp 105€ on 1 to WIN (1,85)

    This morning I have logged on the site and saw that I won 194€...4€ placed (and lost) and then I have asked to withdraw 190€

    After some time (1 hour) I have got this e-mail:
    'Unfortunately, we have canceled your bet on Lu, Y-H vs Zopp, J as the price was incorrect.
    Please do not hesitate to contact us for any further assistance.
    Best regards,
    Irene'


    How,in the world,they have a right to cancel something I have already WON! Why did they not cancel it BEFORE the match started..are they waited to Zopp WIN?

    What with other players on their site who maybe played this match on bigger stake?? Why don't they AT LEAST pay us with their CURRENT odds (1,40 or something)?

    I asked them about this over e-mail and two times in a row I have got this e-mail:
    It is a decision taken by our Sports Department and it will not be changed.

    I have felt a bad taste in my mouth with this Sportbook

    Thanks for your time,bye everyone
  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #2
    First off, Welcome to the SBRforum

    If you're betting into bad lines books will cancel and revert wagers because of it however, since YouWin (SBR Rated D+) is a Malta book I can't say it surprises me at all even if you were in the right. If you feel you are in need of some assistance with this matter please feel free to fill out a complaint form and one of my colleagues will inquire to them on your behalf sir.
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    • in play, run(s)
      SBR Sharp
      • 06-10-09
      • 270

      #3
      Do not bet obvious bad lines, period. Best and most unlikely case is, the book won't notice and pay you, but more often than not, it causes nothing but trouble.

      You could open a thread like this on about EVERY book out there, because most of them ocasionally have bad lines and will cancel any wagers on it.
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      • HeeeHAWWWW
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-13-08
        • 5487

        #4
        This was 1.25 at 5dimes :-)
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        • Shenlong
          SBR Rookie
          • 08-21-11
          • 7

          #5
          It's OK that my game is voided but WHY DID THEY LET IT FINISH and then when I won and tried to withdraw,they simply cancel it

          That is not fair at all,they (once again must say this) haven't even paid me with current odds

          What if I have lost my bet,are you sure that they would cancel that bet?? Hell NO!

          They are classic robbers and I will post this on every forum I know grrrrr

          Feel free to ask me for evidence if you want,thanks for your time

          @bogboydan
          Thank you,I'll write a complain right now
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          • chemicalbrother
            Restricted User
            • 01-26-11
            • 4086

            #6
            lol freerolled.
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            • Dirty Sanchez
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-01-10
              • 16031

              #7
              Welcome to SBR! Never fukkin heard of ya pal
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              • Shenlong
                SBR Rookie
                • 08-21-11
                • 7

                #8
                Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                Welcome to SBR! Never fukkin heard of ya pal
                Then feel free to avoid this thread

                I have make post this to warn everyone what's happening in YouWin bookie and I realy don't have a time to play with you,thanks
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                • Maniac
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 04-12-11
                  • 667

                  #9
                  It does suck, but the fact that you tried to refund immediately after the bet was settled would have been a big red flag to them that you knew full-well that it was a mistake, and that you tried to take a shot.

                  Yes to decide to void the bet after the game is a shitty thing to do on their part, but as someone said - if you bet into obvious bad lines then you give the book a chance to freeroll you like this if they are unscrupulous...
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                  • meckis
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 06-08-09
                    • 438

                    #10
                    bad line... every book would cancel such bets
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                    • lukahh
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 04-08-10
                      • 941

                      #11
                      bad line is treated this way everywhere.

                      youwin has such a bad rating? D+ only? i used it often and had no idea it would be so bad. actually, always got prompt payout.
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        Originally posted by meckis
                        bad line... every book would cancel such bets
                        Originally posted by lukahh
                        bad line is treated this way everywhere.

                        youwin has such a bad rating? D+ only? i used it often and had no idea it would be so bad. actually, always got prompt payout.
                        Yes but most books would void the bet as soon as the bad line was recognized, not after the match. It seems both the OP and the book are wrong here, the OP for betting an obviously bad line and the book for freerolling.
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                        • pjesnik24
                          Restricted User
                          • 11-01-05
                          • 1286

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          Yes but most books would void the bet as soon as the bad line was recognized, not after the match. It seems both the OP and the book are wrong here, the OP for betting an obviously bad line and the book for freerolling.
                          it is always like that, somebody tries the bad line and when they win it gets cancelled. and if they lose the bookies just keep the money. avoid betting on obvious bad lines and then you can avoid these kind of things. I mean, if everybody has the odds at 1.20-1.30 and youwin has it at 1.85 you really do not have to be Einstein to see that this is a bad line
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                          • Roxxyfish
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-26-09
                            • 12066

                            #14
                            dont play at such a shit book , one of the worst in the industry
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                            • BranchDavidian
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-29-10
                              • 1014

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                              Welcome to SBR! Never fukkin heard of ya pal
                              I have seen this type of post several times now, and I just don't get it. So it seems that only posters that you know are allowed to post? Absolutely no info added to the forum except that Mr. Sanchez is uninformed and thinks way too highly of himself. Thanks alot!
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                              • Maniac
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 04-12-11
                                • 667

                                #16
                                Thinking about it, I guess it is possible that the book were that incompetent that they didnt even notice that they had a wrong line up until the game had finished and then went to settle the market, only to suddenly wonder why they had taken a lot of money on it.

                                Situations like that are always tricky, but if the game had already finished before they noticed then they should just swallow the loss, pay out, and give the linesmaker responsible for the mistake a kick up the backside so he takes more care in future !
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                                • Champi
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 12-20-06
                                  • 373

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Shenlong
                                  It's OK that my game is voided but
                                  Well you agree its a bad line-The case is resloved.
                                  Dont do this again when its obvious.
                                  The bookie is fair for now-very strict for documents,but pay.
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                                  • LT Profits
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-27-06
                                    • 90963

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pjesnik24
                                    it is always like that, somebody tries the bad line and when they win it gets cancelled. and if they lose the bookies just keep the money. avoid betting on obvious bad lines and then you can avoid these kind of things. I mean, if everybody has the odds at 1.20-1.30 and youwin has it at 1.85 you really do not have to be Einstein to see that this is a bad line
                                    Wrong, top books cancel the bets early, some of them even before the match starts if they catch it in time.
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                                    • *Torches*
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 08-13-11
                                      • 92

                                      #19
                                      They cheated you big time!
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                                      • *Torches*
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 08-13-11
                                        • 92

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Roxxyfish
                                        dont play at such a shit book , one of the worst in the industry
                                        Don't get suck up
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                                        • in play, run(s)
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 06-10-09
                                          • 270

                                          #21
                                          Yes, don't listen to him... Youwin are a good book, they're legit and they will pay you, they boot winners like most books do but otherwise they treat players fairly.
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                                          • lyubomir
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 08-26-11
                                            • 4

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pjesnik24
                                            it is always like that, somebody tries the bad line and when they win it gets cancelled
                                            but many people do it,may be sometimes the bookmaker don't see the error even after match.
                                            it's worth to try may be.
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                                            • Roxxyfish
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 06-26-09
                                              • 12066

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by in play, run(s)
                                              Yes, don't listen to him... Youwin are a good book, they're legit and they will pay you, they boot winners like most books do but otherwise they treat players fairly.
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                                              • in play, run(s)
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 06-10-09
                                                • 270

                                                #24
                                                Why you laughing? Because of the "they boot winners" part? If you took that into account, 95% of all books would be F rated. So apart from that, any book that pays is a good book in my eyes.

                                                I have never read a justified complaint about Youwin in any forum (trying to freeroll a book and complain afterwards is certainly NOT one), and my own experience has been positive as well, that's all I can say.
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                                                • ThaWoj
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                  • 6764

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                                                  Welcome to SBR! Never fukkin heard of ya pal
                                                  of course u never heard of him, because he just joined you fukkin idiot
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                                                  • Shenlong
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 08-21-11
                                                    • 7

                                                    #26
                                                    Thank you everyone for your posts ^^

                                                    This situation on this Sportsbook is described like this:
                                                    They will let you play 'incorrect odds' (!!) BUT:
                                                    If you WIN your game will be VOID
                                                    If you LOSE your money is LOST

                                                    Think about,what is with the people who played on Jurgen ZOPP?? Did they cancel their bet? Hell NO!

                                                    Complain is already sent to SBR administration,we must to fight against bookies like this :/
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                                                    • in play, run(s)
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 06-10-09
                                                      • 270

                                                      #27
                                                      How do you know they did not cancel bets on Jurgen Zopp? You suspect it, but where is your evidence?

                                                      You tried to cheat Youwin by betting an obvious bad line, and you even admit you knew it was a bad line. That alone means you have absolutely no case here. So what do you expect?
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                                                      • Shenlong
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 08-21-11
                                                        • 7

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by in play, run(s)
                                                        How do you know they did not cancel bets on Jurgen Zopp? You suspect it, but where is your evidence?

                                                        You tried to cheat Youwin by betting an obvious bad line, and you even admit you knew it was a bad line. So what do you expect?
                                                        My bet was placed 9h hours before the start event

                                                        That is enough of time to cancel it I they wanned it + 3 hours after the match is over!! Am I right or not??

                                                        We all know thet they easy can find incorrect odds in less than half hour but they still let us to play it!!
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                                                        • in play, run(s)
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 06-10-09
                                                          • 270

                                                          #29
                                                          I did not say YouWin's behavior is correct. But yours is neither. You admitted you tried to freeroll them, while you have no evidence about Youwin whether they were waiting for the match to finish to freeroll players. They might as well have discovered their line error too late, but this doesn't mean they have to pay players who bet on obvious bad lines. Bottom line is, never bet on obvious bad lines, this is why. Youwin will not pay you, and SBR will not get them to pay you either.
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                                                          • Shenlong
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 08-21-11
                                                            • 7

                                                            #30
                                                            Freeroll??? I have placed my 100€ bet and still had a chance to lose (!!) while they are fully protected because they can do what they want :/

                                                            They pretended to not see the bad odds for 9 hours (maybe even more) because there is NO WAY they didn't notice this,NO WAY!!

                                                            EDIT: They,at least, should pay us with current odds because the game was already finished
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                                                            • Tech N9ne
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 06-24-11
                                                              • 5366

                                                              #31
                                                              standard procedure

                                                              You bet into a bad line and you knew it
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                                                              • pjesnik24
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 11-01-05
                                                                • 1286

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by lyubomir
                                                                but many people do it,may be sometimes the bookmaker don't see the error even after match.
                                                                it's worth to try may be.
                                                                many people do it and any serious bookmaker will spot the mistake and correct it before the game starts. However, as this is a shady businness many bookmakers waiti till the game ends to see if they will win the money or just void the bet. I really do not see how you can win in the long run even if they oversee something
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                                                                • goldman40
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 02-26-11
                                                                  • 190

                                                                  #33
                                                                  just another book that don't care abouit it's players
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                                                                  • nenad
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 08-12-09
                                                                    • 714

                                                                    #34
                                                                    lol who is Y.H. LU vs Zopp ?
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                                                                    • Shenlong
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 08-21-11
                                                                      • 7

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Pa utakmica Nenade

                                                                      Tennis match,Chinese vs Estonian ^^
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