Why Is LSU only - 3 in this game???

[brahmabull117]

This is basically the same matchup as that Bama Penn State game on saturday (a top ranked team vs a low ranked team). Bama and LSU are very similar teams (good defense, good running game, suspect passing game)




yet Bama was - 9.5 on the road and LSU is -3




what gives???

[obamaismyuncle]

you're right! you're smarter than the linesmakers!

[crustyme]

[brahmabull117]

you're right! you're smarter than the linesmakers!

when did I say that??

[iifold]

because moving the ball and putting it in the endzone are two totally different things...

[pavyracer]

Brahma may be onto something. This is one of these games where thinking about it too much will cost your bankroll.

[brahmabull117]

Brahma may be onto something. This is one of these games where thinking about it too much will cost your bankroll.

this is nearly identical in matchup between these 2 games



the difference is that MSU is an offensive minded team while penn state is a defensive minded team but you're talking about a #23/#3 matchup vs #25/#3 matchup

[neverstoppers23]

LSU sure has looked strong early, their defense was fierce on the first play, and their run game has been unstoppable thus far, lets see what they do on this third and goal to finish off this drive.

[obamaismyuncle]

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[iifold]

because moving the ball and putting it in the endzone are two totally different things...

[FindTheLock]

LSU made some terrible play calls down there. That FB hand off was a wasted play, and that pass 10 yards short of the goal line was dead in the water too. With play calls like that they should just kick the FG on 1rst and goal.

[brahmabull117]

LSU made some terrible play calls down there. That FB hand off was a wasted play, and that pass 10 yards short of the goal line was dead in the water too. With play calls like that they should just kick the FG on 1rst and goal.

Les Miles is a fukking moron, but I guess that shouldn't surprise us

[ngates815]

Nice thread.

[k13]

What do you think the line should be?

What will the final score be?

I guess you'll find out when the game is over.

[gryfyn1]

MSU is in the SEC, Penn St is not.

[brahmabull117]

What do you think the line should be? What will the final score be? I guess you'll find out when the game is over.

I just don't understand why LSU is -3 when Bama was -10 on saturday

[brahmabull117]

MSU is in the SEC, Penn St is not.

still a big Rivalry game there with Bama/Penn St



and I get the whole SEC rivalry thing, but does that really make a 7 point difference???

[MoneyLineDawg]

WTF is this? Bama is not LSU and Ms St is not Penn St.......2 completely different matchups, and this is obviously a conference game

Have you got around to that spreadsheet yet btw?

[brahmabull117]

Bama is not LSU and Ms St is not Penn St.......2 completely different matchups

how is this completely different?



#3 team vs #25 team
#3 team vs #23 team



LSU and Bama are basically the same team - great defense, good run game, suspect passing game (though Lee has looked good so far)



I realize penn st doesn't play in the sec, but the fact that it's an SEC game shouldn't make it a 7 point difference

[MoneyLineDawg]

how is this completely different?



#3 team vs #25 team
#3 team vs #23 team



LSU and Bama are basically the same team - great defense, good run game, suspect passing game (though Lee has looked good so far)



I realize penn st doesn't play in the sec, but the fact that it's an SEC game shouldn't make it a 7 point difference

Dude rankings are a made up number from sports writers.....they don't mean shit when it comes to what an actual team is

All I can say is either you're new to college football, or you don't understand the SEC

[brahmabull117]

to suggest Bama- Penn St is also a rivalry is laughable

how is it not a rivalry?? they have a long history of playing against each other



just because Bama dominates means it's not a rivalry??? LSU dominates MSU (11 straight), does that mean it's not a rivalry either??




I just don't get what's so vastly different between these 2 teams. I guarantee you that LSU will finish within +/- 2 losses of Bama and that MSU will finish within +/- 2 losses of Penn State

[sweethook]

Les Miles is a fukking moron, but I guess that shouldn't surprise us

100% , only way lsu lose this game or any this year is his ass , the guy is no big time coach he cant do it .

[dfberger23]

Penn State sucks ass.

[ehp6737]

how is this completely different?



#3 team vs #25 team
#3 team vs #23 team



LSU and Bama are basically the same team - great defense, good run game, suspect passing game (though Lee has looked good so far)



I realize penn st doesn't play in the sec, but the fact that it's an SEC game shouldn't make it a 7 point difference

What are you freakin 12 yrs old? Seriously, this is your argument? Simply comparing rankings to justify spreads. Man you are as dumb as a goddamn lampshade. Are you really that much of a simpleton? There are about 25 angles you choose to just gloss over when making these adolescent agruments. You instead choose to look at everything with tunnel vision.

And yes an SEC conference game does make a 6-7 point game difference over an out of conference game. Especially when were talking about the Big10. It is not even close to the level of SEC competition. The Big10 teams that have similiar rankings as SEC schools do simply because of media markets, tradition, east coast bias, etc. You take a SEC team ranked #15 and a Big10 team ranked #14 the SEC wins 8 out of 10 every time.

[brahmabull117]

There are about 25 angles you choose to just gloss over

so all I'm asking for is these "angles" that make bama a much bigger favorite to win saturday's game than LSU to win this game

[ehp6737]

how is it not a rivalry?? they have a long history of playing against each other



just because Bama dominates means it's not a rivalry??? LSU dominates MSU (11 straight), does that mean it's not a rivalry either??




I just don't get what's so vastly different between these 2 teams. I guarantee you that LSU will finish within +/- 2 losses of Bama and that MSU will finish within +/- 2 losses of Penn State

Your mom seriously needs to take your keyboard away.

So let me get this straight.......

Penn st vs Alabama is a "rivalry"?

Each program have been around for about 125 years

They've only played 15 times in 125+ years. Ya ok, that's a rivalry

Before last week Alabama hasnt played in Happy Valley since 1989.

Get a freakin clue you troll

[brahmabull117]

Your mom seriously needs to take your keyboard away. So let me get this straight....... Penn st vs Alabama is a "rivalry"? Each program have been around for about 125 years They've only played 15 times in 125+ years. Ya ok, that's a rivalry Before last week Alabama hasnt played in Happy Valley since 1989. Get a freakin clue you troll

[ehp6737]

so all I'm asking for is these "angles" that make bama a much bigger favorite to win saturday's game than LSU to win this game

Well as I explained in my orig post, but we'll try it again.....

The main "angle" you choose to gloss over is you think a Big10 vs SEC matchup is basically the same as an SEC vs SEC matchup simply because the teams are ranked the same (ie Penn st Miss st) I'm telling you it's not. Between the 2 games you are comparing as an example I'm saying (and most people who know anything are saying) that a 6 point difference in the line is warranted because its a conference game in the most competitive conference in the country.

It's not rocket science.

It's ok.....you just dont know enough as you think you do.

[bettilimbroke999]

Brahma your capping skills are legendary

They moved the line to LSU -10 at Pinny after you posted this thread

[FindTheLock]

ehp is correct. This is an SEC rivalry between two teams with speed and size. Penn St. hasn't been relevant in a long time. No matter what the coaches or media ranks penn st. If penn st. played Miss St. at Miss St. they would get blown out.

[ehp6737]

Its ok man. I totally shut you up with facts and stop you in your tracks so you got to divert the discussion.

it cool man, I wouldnt expect anything less from a rook

[lakerboy]

Tie game. What should the line have been?