War on Terror/War on Drugs....what a fuckin waste

[bettilimbroke999]

Biggest wastes in the history of the world

First the War on Drugs

Who the **** cares if someone does drugs, do you think I give a **** if you blow your paycheck on yayo or weed? Do all the drugs you want, you will either OD or not OD, just like a person eating at McDs will either eat a ton of it and weigh 300 lbs or eat it sparingly

Some ppl say the crime rate will go up if we dont imprison ppl for doing drugs bc they will commit crimes to get drug money. I say money causes robberies not drugs, I know several ppl that do drugs and not one of them has ever robbed a liquor store if they ran out of weed. People who are flat broke will always be very high-risk for committing crimes to get money, not bc of drugs but bc everyone needs money and the extremely poor are the most desperate. You cant just make something illegal bc ppl would want to buy it, its absurd, why not make IPhones illegal or computers illegal since ppl spend tons of money on them?

Next is the War on Terror

Absolute waste of lives and trillions of cash, honestly if the war on terror is effective why do they keep increasing screening at the airports? You could look like Leonardo DiCaprio and bend over for the soap in a maximum security prison and they wouldnt do the kinda ****** up shit the TSA does to 90 year old women that are trying to get on planes these days.

Does absolutely anyone think that with nearly 2 billion Muslims in the world that we could possibly eliminate them all as terrorist threats? They've been doing their jihad bullshit for thousands of years do you think they plan on stopping any time soon just bc the US invaded a couple Muslim countries? Unless the US plans on nuking a 1/3 of the globe wtf is the point, the potential terrorists are so numerous that identifying and trying to secure high-risk targets is the only way of lowering the chance of terrorism but still if some nut wants to park a van full of fertilizer in front of a building and blow it in half wtf is stopping him?

[ttwarrior1]

i dont understand why we just dont go down to where the drugs are being made and **** em up

but then someone would just start getting some new drug for people to take

If i told you the day after 9 11 we wouldnt get terrorized in the next ten years , what would you say?

You would probaly say that im nuts and would never happen and we would be again

[bettilimbroke999]

Well first off how often were there 9/11 level attacks by Islamic terrorists before 9/11? You act like 9/11 was a frequent occurrence and going 10 years without one is somehow an indication of the military action successfully preventing terrorism, but wed gone hundreds of years without a 9/11 level terrorist attack before the War on Terror.

Now if you had said thered be no Muslim terrorism for the next 10 years since 9/11 yes I would've said you were crazy. But apparently you havent read about the Shoe bomber, Beltway snipers, the Christmas underwear bomber, the Fort Hood shooter, etc. The fact the bombers were unsuccessful in detonating the bombs they had in-flight was due to incredible luck, not the Iraq/Afghan invasion.

First off to have a real "War on Terrorism" youd have to invade and maintain a large military presence in every Muslim country in the entire world, Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Egypt, etc which is impossible. You are talking about a religion with 2 billion followers, now if it had 200k or even 2 million maybe you could kill them all but 2 billion I mean the 100k or so killed by US military is not even a dent in the population.

Secondly, declaring a nonstop neverending war on Muslims will actually INCREASE the likelihood of terrorist attacks rather than decrease. Some Muslim in Iraq that just had his relatives blown away is not less likely to become a terrorist against the US, he is more likely. The problem lies in the fact that terrorists are individuals rather than actual militaries, if Iraq declared war against the US then of course the country would have to be invaded and eliminated as a threat, but when 19 guys who were almost all from Saudi Arabia perform a suicide terrorist attack there is really nothing you can do. I mean think about it really, the OKC bomber blew up a building so the natural response was find who did it and punish them which they did, the problem is all the hijackers were suicide bombers so it is impossible to give them a death sentence they had already imposed on themselves.

Going after terrorist organizations with large-scale military invasions is ridiculous bc you are not fighting an army you are fighting individuals. If it was just army vs army I would say invade the country with our unbelievably expensive/advanced army and problem solved but unfortunately this just aint that simple, if the army kills 100k insurgents that just radicalizes 100k more, that's why we've been in Iraq for over 8 fuckin years despite them having an army that the girl scouts could've defeated in a week. There is no winning the war on terror, the only thing keeping planes from getting blown up is successful intelligence gathering and doing our best to secure high-risk targets which is why some f\*g (never EVER a girl for some reason) from the TSA rubs my dick for 3 minutes to make sure I didnt hide a bomb in my penis every time I fly somewhere.

[bb_skoots]

^^^
sharp post. that being said, there is no mention of the military / industrial/ corporate media triumvirate that calls the shots in this country.

[jarvol]

Well if you would like to stop the irresponsible war on terror, war on drugs, war on gambling, war on prostitution, etc then stop voting for Republicans and Democrats and support Libertarians. It isn't that difficult to figure out if you have half of a functioning brain which unfortunately the majority of Americans do not.

[bettilimbroke999]

I could've gone into a lengthier speech about who and what really benefits from the US military actions but I thought everyone here already knew the ultra-rich and Jews control this country, hell it costs a billion dollars nowadays to even run for president, if that doesnt instantly tell you this country is controlled by the ultra-rich then you simply have no brain.

Do you want to be President? Sure, I've got an IQ of 200 and solutions to all the worlds problems

Well do you have a billion dollars? Umm well no I dont

Well then GTFO ya broke bitch! We got a guy with 100s of millions of campaign contributions from Texaco, Exxon and Halliburton and the Jewish controlled media on his side. He believes we need to go to war with Venezuela and Iran bc they are both umm ya know huge threats to the US, we got some very reliable info that the Iranians are gonna bust down all your doors and gangrape your families if you dont elect this guy!

The good news is that they narrow the 140+ million eligible population down to 2 guys (so you dont have to waste time considering any of the other 140+ million options) which are always 2 middle of the road idiots saying the same general pointless garbage while their multi-billion dollar puppetmasters pull their strings, but dont get upset if you are pissed off about the direction the country is heading you can always elect the other puppet 4 years later and things will be worlds different

[Naz18]

It's a joke....both account for a large percentage of the budget yet neither party really wants to cut either.

[Iced]

War on Terror has created more terrorism.

War on Drugs has created more drug-users.

War on Poverty has created more poor people.

The guvvamint should stop with the wars.

[bettilimbroke999]

Thank god we invaded Iraq, I sure dont know wtf they did that caused us to spend 2+ trillion invading them and still spending a billion a day over there but it sure was and is a good idea. Boy we'd really be up shit creek without a paddle if we hadnt, those 1000 guys that madeup the Iraqi army could've swam here and taken over and we'd all be speakin Iraqi right now if it wasnt for the US military.

Thank god we're still over there keeping that massive army with all their WMD from invading 8 years later, thanks for keeping us safe!

[marcoloco]

isnt the war on drugs to stop the terrorist income supply? or so they say...

[robmpink]

well there hasn't been any terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11.

[bettilimbroke999]

well there hasn't been any terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11.

Already responded to this ridiculous argument earlier in the thread

BTW in gambling terms how many 9/11s per 10 years would you expect without the US invading Iraq and Afghanistan? 1....5....10? I mean the fact is theres only been 1 significant international terrorist attack in the US history so based on lets say a 50 year history since we started supporting Israel and the Muslims wanting to kill us you would expect an attack like that about every 50 years, so going 10 years without another one is not surprising at all, especially when you consider the increased security and general suspicion of the US population towards Muslims since 9/11. I mean if a Muslim was doing anything suspicious before it wouldnt have caught my attention at all before 9/11 now if I see a Muslim getting on my airplane Im staring that fucker down and gettin ready to snap that ragheads neck the moment I hear Allahu Akbar

[flyingillini]

All I know is the price of Yayo is dropping like crazy with my guy in CA... It's flooded and all over.....It's America's cup of coffee, everyone wants it.....

[paco]

[I/O]

Give all the coke heads

all the pole smokers

all the mountain climbers

all the smokers

all the drinkers

all the fat asses

everything they desire and don't interfere with their goal in life

Let them all die. Let them die happy.

The quicker they die, the less of a drain/distraction they may possibly be to the general population. The less likely chance they pro create. The laws of nature will eventually dwindle their kind down to non existence.

[bettilimbroke999]

Exactly Illini, what difference has the War on Drugs made? It may have filled some prison cells with those who have been caught selling but has it actually done anything to slow the flow of drugs? I dont think its done jack shit

Now other countries admittedly are successful in their War on Drugs, Singapore for instance executes you, generally within a year if caught smuggling in illegal drugs so naturally the price is sky high and the supply is limited, in the US what would happen if you got caught with a small amount of weed or coke? A fine...probation?

Sure if you get caught with a kilo you've got a problem but the nearly nonexistent sentences for normal users makes it almost de facto legal

[wtf]

I agree, but is there a society on earth where this takes place, I guess the closes is the Netherlands

Give all the coke heads all the pole smokers all the mountain climbers all the smokers all the drinkers all the fat asses everything they desire and don't interfere with their goal in life Let them all die. Let them die happy. The quicker they die, the less of a drain/distraction they may possibly be to the general population. The less likely chance they pro create. The laws of nature will eventually dwindle their kind down to non existence.

[gohabsgo]

War on hard drugs is legitimate. War on weed is ridiculous and a disaster, especially in mexico.
The union is a great documentary about the weed industry in BC, it's on netflix.
Everybody should watch it.

[bettilimbroke999]

What do you consider hard drugs? Coke, exstacy, acid, crack, heroin, meth, anything other than weed, I mean whats your definition of "hard" drug and why should I give a shit if you want to do it or not?

[ABEHONEST]

Give all the coke heads all the pole smokers all the mountain climbers all the smokers all the drinkers all the fat asses everything they desire and don't interfere with their goal in life Let them all die. Let them die happy. The quicker they die, the less of a drain/distraction they may possibly be to the general population. The less likely chance they pro create. The laws of nature will eventually dwindle their kind down to non existence.

Not bad there Hanibal. I like it!

[gohabsgo]

What do you consider hard drugs? Coke, exstacy, acid, crack, heroin, meth, anything other than weed, I mean whats your definition of "hard" drug and why should I give a shit if you want to do it or not?

The drugs you just mentioned are in my book hard drugs for sure.
Not sure it would be right being able to buy crack from the goverment at the local pharmacy.
These drugs are too addictive and bad for health to be legalized.

[rkelly110]

I believe the history channel had a piece on drugs. From what I remember, everyone was stoned
all the time. No work was being done. Narcotics were in everyday over the counter remedies and even coca cola. People were addicted at no fault of their own.

Can you imagine what chaos would ensue if everyone was allowed to go to work, drive, operate
machinery or even operate on you, drunk or high? You think frivolous law suits are bad now?
Just a small amount of thinking about it and you can see why we have laws against drugs.

I have to agree about the Jihad thing. If we would keep our noses where they belong, there
would be no terrorists. Of course it could operate in reverse. They start the cowardly attacks,
we finish them. Maybe why Muslims don't ever have anything to contribute to society, they are high all the time, smoking that opium.

[chilidog]

Can you imagine what chaos would ensue if everyone was allowed to go to work, drive, operate
machinery or even operate on you, drunk or high?

Ahh, you mean on things like these:

[bettilimbroke999]

No no no, Im not suggesting letting it be legal for ppl to get high as a kite and drive around

Just like alcohol is legal now BUT driving drunk is illegal common sense would prevail

Clearly drug testing would prevent drug use in jobs where it is prohibited, just bc alcohol is legal doesnt mean if a guy comes to work stumbling drunk hes not gonna be fired, of course he is. The fact is that the flow of coke/weed into the US is completely unregulated and enormous, if you're scared to death of ppl getting high then you need to move to a different country bc drug use is HUGE in this country and you have to have blinders on to think that the laws are preventing ppl from doing drugs

I also find it interesting that everyone is supposed to automatically become an addict if drugs were legalized, I mean just bc alcohol is legal does that mean that everyone is an alcoholic and walks around stumbling drunk everywhere they go. Im sure thats what they said would happen during prohibition but the reality is that common sense prevails and that the average person would not become an addict. My father for instance got prescribed like 50 hydros for a hernia he had but only took about 2 or 3 and just put the bottle away, were drugs legal would he immediately become a drug fiend...I doubt it.

But I will say some drugs, what I call garbage drugs like crack and meth should be illegal simply bc their effects on health are so dramatically destructive that they are almost to the level of pure poison. Drugs like coke or weed could be legalized and society would only benefit imo.

[flyingillini]

No no no, Im not suggesting letting it be legal for ppl to get high as a kite and drive around

Just like alcohol is legal now BUT driving drunk is illegal common sense would prevail

Clearly drug testing would prevent drug use in jobs where it is prohibited, just bc alcohol is legal doesnt mean if a guy comes to work stumbling drunk hes not gonna be fired, of course he is. The fact is that the flow of coke/weed into the US is completely unregulated and enormous, if you're scared to death of ppl getting high then you need to move to a different country bc drug use is HUGE in this country and you have to have blinders on to think that the laws are preventing ppl from doing drugs

I also find it interesting that everyone is supposed to automatically become an addict if drugs were legalized, I mean just bc alcohol is legal does that mean that everyone is an alcoholic and walks around stumbling drunk everywhere they go. Im sure thats what they said would happen during prohibition but the reality is that common sense prevails and that the average person would not become an addict. My father for instance got prescribed like 50 hydros for a hernia he had but only took about 2 or 3 and just put the bottle away, were drugs legal would he immediately become a drug fiend...I doubt it.

But I will say some drugs, what I call garbage drugs like crack and meth should be illegal simply bc their effects on health are so dramatically destructive that they are almost to the level of pure poison. Drugs like coke or weed could be legalized and society would only benefit imo.

Crack/Rock/Work/Hard....just add baking soda to the Yay and watch it rock up.....

[jw]

Patriot Act

Used for drugs : 1618 Times
Used for Fraud : 122 times
Used for Terrorism : 15 Times

Cost tens of Billions ...

[bettilimbroke999]

Crack/Rock/Work/Hard....just add baking soda to the Yay and watch it rock up.....

Actually come to think of it youre right, Ive never tried crack but I always associate the crack houses and crack whores with it being more destructive than coke but I guess its just coke and baking soda mixed together but the broker ass ****** up ppl that I see doin it are what make it look so much worse than coke.

Meth on the other hand must be made of pure poison, the before and after pics of meth addicts are unreal

[flyingillini]

Actually come to think of it youre right, Ive never tried crack but I always associate the crack houses and crack whores with it being more destructive than coke but I guess its just coke and baking soda mixed together but the broker ass ****** up ppl that I see doin it are what make it look so much worse than coke.

Meth on the other hand must be made of pure poison, the before and after pics of meth addicts are unreal

It's just a different form of it but they say much more addictive.... Not what I am into, but I love to snort it....

[bettilimbroke999]

It's just a different form of it but they say much more addictive.... Not what I am into, but I love to snort it....

Enjoy yourself, if I had enough money to afford it I would be snortin a couple lines right now myself, unfortunately for me not enough extra $$$$ to blow on blow

[gamemastere]

now if I see a Muslim getting on my airplane Im staring that fucker down and gettin ready to snap that ragheads neck the moment I hear Allahu Akbar

laugh my ass off man, thats funny shit

glad to see some of us know wats really going on

[gamemastere]

blinders on

refrained from using these exact words in my post above, how funny

keep enlightening others man

[onetrickpony]

war on terror/drugs is the white man trying to fuk the brown man, gl with that though cuz were not black u cant fuk us like u did them

[bettilimbroke999]

war on terror/drugs is the white man trying to fuk the brown man, gl with that though cuz were not black u cant fuk us like u did them

Yea we really ****** the blacks didnt we, theyd have it made right now weighin about 50 pounds each in central Africa beggin for 75 cents a day on some informercial had we not ****** em by makin em pick cotton for a few years 200 years ago even though indentured servitude (white slavery) was the standard fee for travel to the New World by the majority of white immigrants as well

Every white guy in this country wants to go back in time and beat the living shit out of our white ancestors for bringing the blacks over here (or not sending em back once they were freed)

[onetrickpony]

Yea we really ****** the blacks didnt we, theyd have it made right now weighin about 50 pounds each in central Africa beggin for 75 cents a day on some informercial had we not ****** em by makin em pick cotton for a few years 200 years ago even though indentured servitude (white slavery) was the standard fee for travel to the New World by the majority of white immigrants as well Every white guy in this country wants to go back in time and beat the living shit out of our white ancestors for bringing the blacks over here (or not sending em back once they were freed)

hey buddy ol pal, dont dwell on the past, u still have the brown man to destroy, put yer thinking cap on and back to the drawing board.