Can we talk about the coming week at SBR?

[Wulfman14]

Of course it is not rigged. The mathematics of the game along guarantee you lose money in the long run - no rigging necessary,

exactly . amazing how stupid people can be..

[ronibrown]

Italian marks it start after getting green

[ronibrown]

exactly . amazing how stupid people can be..

same thoughts here

[aceking]

apparently there's a lot of stupid people around :

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/1208638-bodog-dealer-20-beats-players-blackjack-gotta-see-pic.html

[aceking]

and everyone on this thread are real dumb :

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/68467-what-percent-online-casino-games-rigged.html

[HeeeHAWWWW]

apparently there's a lot of stupid people around :

Clearly true.

These people are playing a negative EV game with no skill component whatsoever, and expecting to beat it?

[Glitch]

and everyone on this thread are real dumb :

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...es-rigged.html

Of course it is not rigged. The mathematics of the game along guarantee you lose money in the long run - no rigging necessary,

...everyone ...IS real dumb


thadd, if you think its not rigged- try this experiment:

take 400 points to your casino/sportsbook section, risk 1 point 3 times in a row (i bet you win 2 if not 3 of those hands) risk 100 3 times in a row. you might win one, but i think you lose them all <if any-="" win="" first="" one="" then="" lost="" the="" next="" 2="" or="" 3="" if="" you="" bet="" again="">. you should try this out and tell me if its just a coincidence.

sbrjohn said he was going to audit all the blackjack results and get back to us with a full report on that...didnt happen.

it really does seem like its skewed unfavorably for percentage risked.
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[yisman]

I'll do the experiments if you want. What do I get if it doesn't happen the way you say?

Italian marks it start after getting green

[Br0nxer]

Sure we can johnny boy

Im all ears. Shoot

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Line moved, pinny +4 is +100 ..... give us another point, sbr_john :-)

[trytrytry]

my kind of site! thanks SBR John....wish i would have hit that Royal flush yesterday at that table we were at..so damn close.

STRAIGHT BET Sep 08 NFL [1955] NEW ORLEANS, SBR JOHN SPECIAL +5EV 33.00 SBR / 33.00 SBR

[str]

Thank you John!

[wtt0315]

250 point trivia. the question will probably be something like who was the first person to wear a mask in 1833 game between 2 teams

[SBR_John]

250 point trivia. the question will probably be something like who was the first person to wear a mask in 1833 game between 2 teams

Actually its going to be something different and cool. Stay tuned.

[pokernut9999]

Great job Walker !!!!!!!!1

[robmpink]

So we should get excited that trivia is twice next week when it was twice every week?

[InTheDrink]

nice work fellas

got a request...how about a late night blackjack bonus instead of mid day? i'm sure there are more guys who play at night, hence the need for daytime bonus, but once in a while would be nice

[theclutch7]

cfl today, tease them underdogs and under! wins 80%, rj

[ThaddeusB]

To those who claim BJ is rigged, please try to come up with better "proof" than
1) a link to a forum post where people claim the game is rigged
2) a 6 hand test

I mean seriously, why would you expect to make money at a negative EV game and then claim it is rigged software that prevented it. That said, if someone wants a real test that can actually prove something, I'll do it. However, I expect to be compensated for my expected loss regardless of the actual results.

Thanks,
Thaddeus

[Fishhead]

thad.....already proven rigged


old news

[LVHerbie]

Green Bay vs New Orleans - the line will be moved to Green Bay -5 +100 New Orleans +5 +100 on Monday afternoon.
(limit 500 points, sides only, line subject to change)

John if the line does change before game time will it stay zero juice?

[LVHerbie]

thad.....already proven rigged


old news

Care to provide a link?

[InTheDrink]

absolutely rigged

but i still play it

[pavyracer]

To those who claim BJ is rigged, please try to come up with better "proof" than
1) a link to a forum post where people claim the game is rigged
2) a 6 hand test

I mean seriously, why would you expect to make money at a negative EV game and then claim it is rigged software that prevented it. That said, if someone wants a real test that can actually prove something, I'll do it. However, I expect to be compensated for my expected loss regardless of the actual results.

Thanks,
Thaddeus

That's like a book offering free 10 team parlays but when you hit one they won't pay you.

[GunShard]

Can't wait.

[InTheDrink]

Can't wait.

[Roadtrip635]

So are all these "cool" promos and contests being funded with points no longer being handed out with the "random" trivia.

[ThaddeusB]

That's like a book offering free 10 team parlays but when you hit one they won't pay you.

Well if you want me to play -EV game to prove its not rigged of course I want my expected losses back. Just my expected ones though - if it is truly rigged I'd lose a lot more than expected. So essentially I'm offering to waste my time and risk my points in the event I'm wrong for a "gain" of making the game 0 EV.

[Wulfman14]

and everyone on this thread are real dumb :

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...es-rigged.html

yes providing a link to an old thread and a screenshot proves that all casino games are rigged.
WHAT IS THE POINT OF RIGGING A - EV GAME WHEN THE PLAYER WILL LOSE IN THE LONG RUN ANYWAY ?!

while there may be shady software out there it is certainly not the norm . you know how many times i have heard people bitch about sbr poker being rigged.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Well if you want me to play -EV game to prove its not rigged of course I want my expected losses back. Just my expected ones though - if it is truly rigged I'd lose a lot more than expected. So essentially I'm offering to waste my time and risk my points in the event I'm wrong for a "gain" of making the game 0 EV.

Not worth it imo. 400 hands of 100pts has expected mean of -185 points. That's at 0.5% house edge, that right?

Problem is the variance, 1 standard deviation is anywhere from -2300 to +1900pts. I guess you have the points to not be bothered by that of course

That variance is of course why you get people claiming it's rigged.....

[SBR_John]

John if the line does change before game time will it stay zero juice?

Yes...that game is zero juice but the points could fluctuate.

[tblues2005]

SBR John I like this. I can tell you are ready for the pros to start. I sure enjoyed watching college on last Saturday. I think you should stick the poker on Sunday nights maybe. I am usually not here on Sundays starting this next week. I am going to a sports bar to play QB1 on buzztime this year during the football season. It is going to be a lot of fun on Sundays and Monday nights this season.

[Kindred]

So what day is the 1-3PM BJ special, everyday or just Thursday?

[jjgold]

Walker put $200 into Legends so I can be a pro

[ThaddeusB]

Not worth it imo. 400 hands of 100pts has expected mean of -185 points. That's at 0.5% house edge, that right?

Problem is the variance, 1 standard deviation is anywhere from -2300 to +1900pts. I guess you have the points to not be bothered by that of course

That variance is of course why you get people claiming it's rigged.....

The variance combined with poor play create larger than expected losses, but yeah its probably the variance that gets people thinking the game is rigged the most.

If a casino really wanted to rig a game, I think it would be far more profitable to keep the EV the same (small negative) but decrease the variance by altering odds during a run (to make it stop easier). If someone thinks a game is rigged (real or otherwise), they'll lose their deposit and never return. If they think it is fair, they will likely re-up many times. Thus if a casino is smart and want to cheat, they should rig to game not to increase their take but rather to decrease the player's variance.

Thaddeus

P.S. It is obviously a waste of my time to "test" the software even if I'm compensated for it. However, people complaining about "rigged" software (casino or poker) really annoys me for some reason.