Lightning delay question in the Marshall/WVU game

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  • Fang-Banger
    SBR MVP
    • 10-04-10
    • 2805

    #71
    My Marshall +21.5 bet still showing as pending on 5dimes.
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    • Sunde91
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-26-09
      • 8325

      #72
      5dimes chat on Marshall/WVU

      Jax: full game, 2nd Half, 4th qrt = no action
      Jax: 1st Half, 1,2& 3rd qrtr = action.
      Jax: Unfortunately our grading system is experimenting technical difficulties, and we cannot grade any wagers at the moment. Please accept our apologies, our tech staff is working on the issue.
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      • Cougar Bait
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-04-07
        • 18282

        #73
        Originally posted by Cougar Bait

        It was a 3 team 10 point, and Bookmaker refunded it. I had to call customer service though, they would not credit it back online.

        Was a bit of a hassle explaining it to 3 people, but they took care of it.
        Actually still waiting for the refund but that's what the girl on the phone said they would do.
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        • Bengals28
          SBR MVP
          • 04-20-11
          • 2164

          #74
          That's bush league. Marshall should be the winning side.
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82840

            #75
            My local graded the game already. No software issues when you are dealing with a local.
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            • dogs1972
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-22-09
              • 509

              #76
              Don't understand why my over teaser got canceled. The bet was already won. Regardless of the rain that wasn't changing.
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              • iceminers26
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-13-08
                • 15600

                #77
                Originally posted by dogs1972
                Don't understand why my over teaser got canceled. The bet was already won. Regardless of the rain that wasn't changing.
                the age old question, this has been brought up several times when dealing with baseball and tennis totals and while it sucks if you're on the over its stated in the rules and hopefully over time, it evens out.
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                • Fang-Banger
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-04-10
                  • 2805

                  #78
                  Still pending on 5 dimes. Total BS this shud be a win
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                  • Cougar Bait
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-04-07
                    • 18282

                    #79
                    Still waiting on the grading.

                    Will call Bookmaker again tomorrow if it has not been fixed.
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                    • Fang-Banger
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-04-10
                      • 2805

                      #80
                      5dimes canceled my Marshall +21.5 bet. Absolute BS. Just another way these books try to get an extra edge over their customers.
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                      • chemicalbrother
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-26-11
                        • 4086

                        #81
                        fang, be thankful, you were going to lose that bet.

                        i lost out on a tad more than 3.5u between UM spread/ML and WVU spread/ML bets this weekend. ugh.
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                        • Antibet
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-30-09
                          • 1688

                          #82
                          Pinnacle cancelled my 1st half bet??? It was graded yesterday, and was changed to "Cancelled" couple of minutes ago.

                          <table class="linesTbl" summary="Pending transactions" cellpadding="5" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="linesAlt2"><td nowrap="nowrap">
                          </td> <td>Football
                          1H Handicap</td> <td>Marshall (+13) vs West Virginia for 1st Half.</td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">-111</td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">111.00</td> <td align="right" nowrap="nowrap">Cancelled</td></tr></tbody></table>
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                          • iceminers26
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-13-08
                            • 15600

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Antibet
                            Pinnacle cancelled my 1st half bet??? It was graded yesterday, and was changed to "Cancelled" couple of minutes ago. <TABLE class=linesTbl summary="Pending transactions" cellPadding=5 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=linesAlt2><TD noWrap></TD><TD>Football 1H Handicap</TD><TD>Marshall (+13) vs West Virginia for 1st Half.</TD><TD noWrap align=right>-111</TD><TD noWrap align=right>111.00</TD><TD noWrap align=right>Cancelled</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

                            That has to be an error, I'm sure if you contact them they will fix this.... 1Q, 2Q, 3Q, and 1H should all be graded. FG and 2H should be cancelled.
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                            • Antibet
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-30-09
                              • 1688

                              #84
                              Originally posted by iceminers26
                              That has to be an error, I'm sure if you contact them they will fix this.... 1Q, 2Q, 3Q, and 1H should all be graded. FG and 2H should be cancelled.
                              Let me try, thanks.
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                              • Antibet
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-30-09
                                • 1688

                                #85
                                That's total BS! Pinnacle responded:

                                Dear Sir,

                                This game was graded according to the rules posted on our site:
                                · If play is suspended before the completion of 55 minutes and not resumed the same day, all bets will be scored as "no action" and all monies refunded.
                                This game was suspended before 55 minutes of play were completed, for these reason, all wagers on this game are cancelled.
                                Kind regards,


                                Customer Service Department
                                Pinnacle Sports


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                                • iceminers26
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-13-08
                                  • 15600

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Antibet
                                  That's total BS! Pinnacle responded: Dear Sir, This game was graded according to the rules posted on our site: · If play is suspended before the completion of 55 minutes and not resumed the same day, all bets will be scored as "no action" and all monies refunded. This game was suspended before 55 minutes of play were completed, for these reason, all wagers on this game are cancelled. Kind regards, Customer Service Department Pinnacle Sports

                                  That is wrong, I'm sure that is just an auto response email per rules stated on their site. Your wager was a 1H wager so the cancellation would not have an affect on the grading, it should be graded as a win. Call in the morning when they open up and talk to a rep, I'm certain this will be fixed. If not, which I don't think you'll need to do but if so, file a complaint with SBR.
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                                  • Antibet
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-30-09
                                    • 1688

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by iceminers26
                                    That is wrong, I'm sure that is just an auto response email per rules stated on their site. Your wager was a 1H wager so the cancellation would not have an affect on the grading, it should be graded as a win. Call in the morning when they open up and talk to a rep, I'm certain this will be fixed. If not, which I don't think you'll need to do but if so, file a complaint with SBR.
                                    Got it, I appreciate your help. I can't seem to find Pinnacle phone number on their website, though.
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                                    • Antibet
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-30-09
                                      • 1688

                                      #88
                                      Pinnacle response:

                                      Dear Sir,

                                      As stated in "Help - Sportsbook Help/Rules/Football Rules" section of our site:

                                      Football


                                      Minimum Time for Action:


                                      1. For wagering purposes, winners and losers are determined by the final score (including overtime), provided that the game has gone at least 55 minutes.
                                      2. If a game is suspended after 55 minutes and not resumed the same day, then regardless of whether the game is completed at a later date, the score when the game is halted will determine the betting results.
                                      3. If play is suspended before the completion of 55 minutes and not resumed the same day, all bets will be scored as "no action" and all monies refunded.


                                      Therefore your wager was cancelled correctly in accordance of our football rules.



                                      Kind regards,

                                      Customer Service Department
                                      Pinnacle Sports

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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by Fang-Banger
                                        Still pending on 5 dimes. Total BS this shud be a win
                                        How should this be a win? Game did not go 55 minutes, it is a clear-cut rule. It's not like the rule is ambiguous or anything.
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                                        • LT Profits
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-27-06
                                          • 90963

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Fang-Banger
                                          5dimes canceled my Marshall +21.5 bet. Absolute BS. Just another way these books try to get an extra edge over their customers.
                                          Not true, books gain no edge because ALL bets are canceled. It actually HURTS them because they collect no vig.
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                                          • LT Profits
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-27-06
                                            • 90963

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by dogs1972
                                            Don't understand why my over teaser got canceled. The bet was already won. Regardless of the rain that wasn't changing.
                                            That doesn't matter, it is the exact situation as a baseball games that goes Over early and then gets called before going nine innings. If the books can't cash shortened games they were Under, then they can't cash Overs either.
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                                            • Bluehorseshoe
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-13-06
                                              • 15006

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by dogs1972
                                              Don't understand why my over teaser got canceled. The bet was already won. Regardless of the rain that wasn't changing.
                                              Because they have a rule in place for a reason. What do they do next time when the game hasn't gone over with the teaser at the same point? I'd be more upset if it was marked a loser with a full quarter still to go. You can't pick and choose these things.
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                                              • Cougar Bait
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-04-07
                                                • 18282

                                                #93
                                                It took 18 minutes on live chat but Bookmaker refunded the freeplay this morning.
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                                                • eyeball
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-14-07
                                                  • 988

                                                  #94
                                                  my book says 35 minutes did it go 35?
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                                                  • Cookie Monster
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-05-08
                                                    • 2251

                                                    #95
                                                    The game went 46 mins or so.

                                                    The rule on pinny seems strange. I find more logical the usual way, paying for all bets which were for a period played in full.

                                                    Just imagine some props. "Would the game go over 55 minutes of play? Yes/No". You bet on the no and think you won. But get a no action LOL
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                                                    • thetrinity
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-25-11
                                                      • 22431

                                                      #96
                                                      pretty easy boys if the game goes 54 minutes 59 seconds or less in football time then in a books eyes it didnt happen. doesnt matter if the score was 2000-0
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                                                      • 20Four7
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 04-08-07
                                                        • 6703

                                                        #97
                                                        Why can't people just read the rules at the book they bet at. Jesus.
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                                                        • Serbone
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-21-09
                                                          • 1300

                                                          #98
                                                          I had the under, 5 Dime cancelled, a push
                                                          I wonder if they kept the money for the people who had the over?
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                                                          • pokernut9999
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-25-07
                                                            • 12757

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by 20Four7
                                                            Why can't people just read the rules at the book they bet at. Jesus.

                                                            Doubt many have ever read any rules

                                                            Makes you wonder
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                                                            • paco
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 05-07-09
                                                              • 62873

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by Bengals28
                                                              That's bush league. Marshall should be the winning side.
                                                              Mountaineers were up by 21 with 15 mins to go. Dude, WVU woulda covered. Marshall couldnt even move the ball, there only TD was a damn punt return. Be thankful ur Marshall play was refunded.
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                                                              • Tech N9ne
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 06-24-11
                                                                • 5366

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by 20Four7
                                                                Why can't people just read the rules at the book they bet at. Jesus.
                                                                Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                                Doubt many have ever read any rules Makes you wonder
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                                                                • LT Profits
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                                  • 90963

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Serbone
                                                                  I had the under, 5 Dime cancelled, a push
                                                                  I wonder if they kept the money for the people who had the over?
                                                                  No, ALL bets were refunded. States clearly in their rules that games must go 55 minutes.
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