How did SBR_John do it ?

[P.F.Kasooff]

I remember when SBR started Look at them now!

How did John do it?

Planned his work then worked his plan however the #1 thing is he is, in a not so honorable business, an Honorable Man; relatively speaking

Congrats John, Bill and SBR Staff. I know y'all will have another grand football season

[Rod_M]

Still have to go over those c0vers boys but that is an encouraging trend

[iifold]

Lets not kid ourselves here...

The King led the way...

[Sunde91]

notice sbr overtook covers in the dead period of july

thats the fulfillment of johns plan to turn sbr into a romper room for teenagers who will stay and bullshit

it worked john

[Sdotbold]

Covers doesnt even come close to sbr. I have been addicted to this site since I found it back in 09. Wish I had known about it long before.

[P.F.Kasooff]

Covers doesnt even come close to sbr. I have been addicted to this site since I found it back in 09. Wish I had known about it long before.

Covers used to be the Gold Standard

[hawley]

jjgold.

[Sdotbold]

Is there a ton of 21 and unders on this site?

[P.F.Kasooff]

jjgold.

Dont underestimate the 'value' JJ is to SBR. I'm sure John doesnt

[Sdotbold]

Covers used to be the Gold Standard

I know I used to go to covers when I first started gambling 10 yrs ago. But seriously I like the sbr model much better then covers. Soon this site will over take them

[SBR_John]

SBR has great talent. I know most will say that even if it is not completely true. But in this case it is an under statement. Look at contributions from guys like Lou and Pete plus guys like The prick, JJ and so many others. Bill is tremendous and his IT staff of Ivan and Whitey are world class. Another dozen guys and gals are equally tremendous individuals and contributors. The entire team has had almost no turnover for many years. It's been a fun ride with those guys.

[pavyracer]

The posters did it. Because without posters employees can't create traffic.

[P.F.Kasooff]

SBR has great talent. I know most will say that even if it is not completely true. But in this case it is an under statement. Look at contributions from guys like Lou and Pete plus guys like The prick, JJ and so many others. Bill is tremendous and his IT staff of Ivan and Whitey are world class. Another dozen guys and gals are equally tremendous individuals and contributors. The entire team has had almost no turnover for many years. It's been a fun ride with those guys.

A person is only as great as the people he surrounds himself with. The downfall of other sports portals

[Rod_M]

The posters did it. Because without posters employees can't create traffic.

My remaining 20 for you pavy, this place is what it is for its users.

[P.F.Kasooff]

The posters did it. Because without posters employees can't create traffic.

True, however, I would guess every poster here who's been posting for >5 yrs have signed up at another forum[s]. Yet most have stayed here to post.

[doublej95]

True, however, I would guess every poster here who's been posting for >5 yrs have signed up at another forum[s]. Yet most have stayed here to post.

Been at many other forums but SBR is the most entertaining one for sure.

[Hoja Verdes]

The posters did it. Because without posters employees can't create traffic.

That's obvious. You basically said "mcdonald's is so popular because everyone goes there. Without customers employees can't create burgers." Of course posters/traffic is the metric by which this site is measured, and they don't just come here randomly.

But the founders and architects of this site are what attract and keep the posters. Traffic, while an indicator of success, is not the success itself, but merely a byproduct of it.

[jjgold]

Paver is correct!!!

Posters make the site so fukkin good

Of course you need the owners and tech guys to piece it all together and continue to upgrade and be creative though

[P.F.Kasooff]

Paver is correct!!!

Posters make the site so fukkin good

Of course you need the owners and tech guys to piece it all together and continue to upgrade and be creative though

You bald head fuk . Give me 2pts

[King Mayan]

Grab ass'ing and spindling is key for SBR's success.

[Hoja Verdes]

Paver is correct!!!

Posters make the site so fukkin good

Of course you need the owners and tech guys to piece it all together and continue to upgrade and be creative though

Sorry JJ, you're one of the men behind the curtain, so you certainly played a big part in this success. But the majority of posters are a commodity and no different than the fat fukcs sitting in mcdonald's stuffing their face full of shit that's bad for them. Apologies to put it so bluntly, I'm not trying to be harsh. IF you want to make the argument that posters make the site a success, then you have to focus on the fact that they feed each others' degeneracy, losing money at sponsor books and thus almost paying sbr to be a part of this community. The worst thing that could happen to the average gambler is to discover this site and many like it, since from a strictly financial perspective it makes them all lose more than they would normally. Look at ttwarrior...the dude pretty much ruined his life by spending it here. That's his own damn fault of course, but misery loves company, and is mitigated by it. If Brock Landers, pavyracer, and all the lifers got hit by a bus tomorrow, they would be replaced in the spotlight almost immediately by someone else. A few short years ago this site was dominated by jacklegs like pags and gynecologist, then when they quit and predicted sbr's doom following their departure, what happened? They were quickly forgotten. The posters as a whole can always be counted on if the blueprint behind the site is successful in attracting and keeping them. But the individuals are no different than celebrities who achieve 15 minutes of fame. This site is the equivalent of a local bookie who always beats you, and you always pay him on time. Next thing you know he's your buddy and is buying you nfl tickets and giving you awesome christmas gifts. Just remember, with a bookie or with SBR, you paid for it all, so essentially all the points people get every day and lose in the casino is just their money that's given back to them and then taken away again.

Not trying to be harsh, seriously...i obviously love this site. The SBR Points system is one of the most brilliant ideas i've ever seen on the internet.

[neverstoppers23]

Congrats to the SBR community.

[onlooker]

It feels good to be a SBR Founder, and help open up this place.

[pavyracer]

True, however, I would guess every poster here who's been posting for >5 yrs have signed up at another forum[s]. Yet most have stayed here to post.

The reason most posters here stay and don't leave is because SBR_John asks for posters opinions and many times he listens to what posters want. This is a talent only successful enterpreneurs have which is the ability to determine what posters (customers) want and adjust their business plan accordingly.

[onlooker]

A few short years ago this site was dominated by jacklegs like pags and gynecologist, then when they quit and predicted sbr's doom following their departure, what happened? They were quickly forgotten.

Ah...My two buddies.

I wonder what ghosts they are currently posting under.

[pavyracer]

That's obvious. You basically said "mcdonald's is so popular because everyone goes there. Without customers employees can't create burgers." Of course posters/traffic is the metric by which this site is measured, and they don't just come here randomly.

But the founders and architects of this site are what attract and keep the posters. Traffic, while an indicator of success, is not the success itself, but merely a byproduct of it.

And using your analogy with burgers why do you think customers make McDonald's stand out from other burger joints and not make Burger King the stand out burger joint? It's not how good the burger tastes that matters but how you create a loyal customer basis.

[Hoja Verdes]

And using your analogy with burgers why do you think customers make McDonald's stand out from other burger joints and not make Burger King the stand out burger joint? It's not how good the burger tastes that matters but how you create a loyal customer basis.

My point exactly. Not sure what you thought I was saying, apologies if it wasn't as clear as I thought.

SBR Points = McDonald's monopoly game promotion in the 80's. Fukcing brilliant, and something every customer can 'enjoy' with each other.

[Bill Dozer]

Opie said it well at the SBR Bash. Businesses can have the most growth in down markets when their competition pulls their chips in or takes short cuts and stops looking at the big picture. The staff here sees that SBR has invested in them and the long term goals. Working in a committed company lets you stay focused.

[LordVodka]

I knew rx was dead but I didn't know it was that bad.

[Bill Dozer]

I knew rx was dead but I didn't know it was that bad.

Standalone forums in the facebook age are following same trend. I think they are more focused in their other business like premium odds.

[Mr KLC]

Found this site almost 4 years ago. Can't imagine life without it anymore. The only message board that I consistently post on anymore.

[LordVodka]

Standalone forums in the facebook age are following same trend. I think they are more focused in their other business like premium odds.

What does standalone forum mean if I may ask?

[Bill Dozer]

What does standalone forum mean if I may ask?

EOG, TheRX and Madjacks. They don't really create any other proprietary content. Sportsline.com and Covers.com have things like their own matchups software and scoreboard products etc. Forums often are add-ons for existing audiencse to talk to like minded people... similar to comments under an article. For example in the old days you could have a chatroom on a topic and that would be whole site because it was cool and unique. Anyone can get one now like anyone can get a blog or host a posting board. Since they are a dime a donzen, you need something unique to get critical mass.

[paco]

Glad i was a part of it.

Great job SBR

[LordVodka]

EOG, TheRX and Madjacks. They don't really create any other proprietary content. Sportsline.com and Covers.com have things like their own matchups software and scoreboard products etc. Forums often are add-ons for existing audiencse to talk to like minded people... similar to comments under an article. For example in the old days you could have a chatroom on a topic and that would be whole site because it was cool and unique. Anyone can get one now like anyone can get a blog or host a posting board. Since they are a dime a donzen, you need something unique to get critical mass.

I see now. Yeah, you're right. This is why I started coming here more instead of other places.