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  • jihadvillager
    SBR MVP
    • 11-25-11
    • 2134

    #1331
    Also, what lines do you like for half if i had no AZ live/Browns live- what spreads would you take it up to?
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    • jihadvillager
      SBR MVP
      • 11-25-11
      • 2134

      #1332
      tough couple of days. hopefully we get over the hump soon. anything tonight?
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      • The Seer
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-29-07
        • 10641

        #1333
        Sorry, took a break for a few hours.
        Lean Dal but think I will just watch it. Might hit a live bet later.
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        • jihadvillager
          SBR MVP
          • 11-25-11
          • 2134

          #1334
          Originally posted by The Seer
          Sorry, took a break for a few hours.
          Lean Dal but think I will just watch it. Might hit a live bet later.
          Thanks Seer- will wait around and see. Thank you
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          • The Seer
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-29-07
            • 10641

            #1335
            Originally posted by jihadvillager
            Thanks Seer- will wait around and see. Thank you
            Dal getting over 3 is too good to pass up
            Dallas +3.5 -115 1 unit
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            • jihadvillager
              SBR MVP
              • 11-25-11
              • 2134

              #1336
              Originally posted by The Seer
              Dal getting over 3 is too good to pass up
              Dallas +3.5 -115 1 unit
              jumped on it, thanks Seer
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              • The Seer
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-29-07
                • 10641

                #1337
                Originally posted by jihadvillager
                jumped on it, thanks Seer
                I wanted to see Romo's health first,might have to try to get off of it
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                • jihadvillager
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-25-11
                  • 2134

                  #1338
                  They are favoring the run it seems to not be 100%- in hindsight under would have been nice- or dal under traser
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                  • The Seer
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-29-07
                    • 10641

                    #1339
                    Originally posted by jihadvillager
                    They are favoring the run it seems to not be 100%- in hindsight under would have been nice- or dal under traser
                    I considered it live at 45.5 but decided not to, gonna wait longer and see what happens
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                    • The Seer
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-29-07
                      • 10641

                      #1340
                      live under 49.5 -115 1 unit
                      Dal may never score
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                      • The Seer
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-29-07
                        • 10641

                        #1341
                        over 44.5 -115 live bet, trying to middle the total
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                        • SCRAGGS
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-21-09
                          • 1969

                          #1342
                          Originally posted by The Seer
                          over 44.5 -115 live bet, trying to middle the total

                          The seer is always grinding
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                          • The Seer
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-29-07
                            • 10641

                            #1343
                            Originally posted by SCRAGGS
                            The seer is always grinding
                            Scraggs, I found something worthy of note and to share. In the Bowl games, teams that covered the first half went 4-14 ATS the second half.
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                            • jgray
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-06-09
                              • 3599

                              #1344
                              Originally posted by The Seer
                              live under 49.5 -115 1 unit Dal may never score
                              Originally posted by The Seer
                              over 44.5 -115 live bet, trying to middle the total
                              Finally, huh?
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                              • The Seer
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-29-07
                                • 10641

                                #1345
                                Originally posted by The Seer
                                live under 49.5 -115
                                Originally posted by The Seer
                                over 44.5 -115 live bet, trying to middle the total
                                it worked
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                                • Coolcanuck79
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-07-11
                                  • 3189

                                  #1346
                                  Great call Seer ... I had almost the same ... un 50.5 live and over 44.5 live! Gotta love the G-men!
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                                  • jgray
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-06-09
                                    • 3599

                                    #1347
                                    Alright, now that you've gotten the proverbial monkey off your back, let's talk about tomorrow.

                                    I like half of the Big 10. OSU (their last bowl game for a year so I expect the kids to be up) vs. Florida (last I checked, the Gator bowl is not the National Championship game) and MSU. I assume you've looked at the card. Hell, SBR John thought these games were today.

                                    Let's make some money tomorrow.
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                                    • jihadvillager
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-25-11
                                      • 2134

                                      #1348
                                      Looking fwd to a good day tomorrow!
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                                      • NYSportsGuy210
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-07-09
                                        • 11347

                                        #1349
                                        Any thoughts on Penn State vs. Houston? Does Penn State cover?
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                                        • The Seer
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-29-07
                                          • 10641

                                          #1350
                                          Originally posted by jgray
                                          Alright, now that you've gotten the proverbial monkey off your back, let's talk about tomorrow. I like half of the Big 10. OSU (their last bowl game for a year so I expect the kids to be up) vs. Florida (last I checked, the Gator bowl is not the National Championship game) and MSU. I assume you've looked at the card. Hell, SBR John thought these games were today. Let's make some money tomorrow.
                                          I think Fl might come to play because of the pissed off about Urban Meyer angle and home state team. I'm thinking MSU/Geo under. I'm going to be up a while on these before I make any decisions though.
                                          Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                          Any thoughts on Penn State vs. Houston? Does Penn State cover?
                                          I think they do
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                                          • The Seer
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-29-07
                                            • 10641

                                            #1351
                                            Originally posted by Coolcanuck79
                                            Great call Seer ... I had almost the same ... un 50.5 live and over 44.5 live! Gotta love the G-men!
                                            Originally posted by jihadvillager
                                            Looking fwd to a good day tomorrow!
                                            i have hope
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                                            • The Seer
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-29-07
                                              • 10641

                                              #1352
                                              Jan 2 Bowls- firing away
                                              12 Eastern game
                                              Penn St +7.5 2 units
                                              Houston blew their conference title and a BCS game in their last game. They also are upset at how Sumlin left. Penn St players have shown alot of maturity in the way they handled the Joe Pa mess. They will be playing for Tom Bradley. The 70th ranked Southern Miss pass defense showed that you can slow down the Houston offense and Penn State has the players to do it. Penn State had the best scoring defense in the Big 10 at just over 15 pts per game and have the 5th ranked passing efficiency defense. Excluding the garbage time TD that Hou got with 10 seconds left, SM held them to 21. In 3 bowl games, Keenum has 3 td passes and 7 picks. Keenum's last bowl game started was a 47-20 beat down by Air force. Houston is 78th in rush defense. The 3 teams with the best defenses that Hou faced were UCLA where they won by 4, La Tech where they won by 1, and S.Miss. Penn St will play smash mouth with Hou and keep that offense off the field. Penn St hasn't lost back to back bowls since the mid 1970s and Joe Pa hasn't been doing too much coaching in several years anyway. Penn State's 3 losses were to Bama, Nebraska, and Wisconsin. I'll take the points with the team from the power conference and the dog with the much better defense.

                                              1pm eastern games
                                              All 3 are Big 10-SEC matchups
                                              Interesting fact: Since 1990, out of 53 matchups between these conferences, the team that won also covered 49 out of 53 times.
                                              In recent history, the SEC has easily had the upper hand. Last yr the SEC went 3-1: Fl beat Penn St by 2 TDs, Bama smashed MichSt 49-7, and Ms St crushed Mich 52-14. the lone Big 10 win was Oh St by 5 over Ark. The Ark defense was easily the lesser SEC defense out of the bunch.
                                              Mich St/ Georgia under 50 1 unit
                                              With Mich St and Georgia, both of these teams are in the top 17 in the country in the 3rd down conversion defense but Geo is 3rd. Both are in the top 10 in first down defense but Geo is 2nd. Both are in the top 9 in passing efficiency defense but Geo is better at 4th. Mich St does have a better redzone defense. Their rushing defenses are 11th and 12th. Michigan St is the only big 10 defense in my opinion with a front 7 of near caliber. I would go more units here but I hate taking unders in bowls. Georgia has slight edges here and both teams lost their title games but I think Mich St has superior motivation to Georgia in this game due to last yr's embarrassment so I may make a later play on the side.

                                              South Carolina -2.5 2 units
                                              South Carolina has a much better all around defense and Nebraska being a primary run team will play right into their hands as SC can stack the box since they have the second ranked passing defense. Also, Mobile QBs have given Nebraska fits. Wisconsin, NWestern, and Mich beat them outright and Ohio St built a 27-6 lead before Braxton Miller got hurt and had to leave the game. Their defense uses alot of man to man and when those DBs and Lbers turn their backs, the running QBs take off. Conner Shaw will run all over them and pick up key 3rd downs.

                                              Florida -2 2 units
                                              Ohio is very one deminsional on offense with 2/3 of their offense being runs. Florida is #13 in opponents yds per rushing attempt and #10 in passing D. Florida want's to pound Urban Meyer's new team as their is a big feeling of betrayal from those players. Florida's offense will also finally be healthy and they are more balanced. Their loses were to much better teams than OSU's. The Gators will have what is basically home field advantage as well. The under is definitely worth a look at too even though it is low.

                                              lol, the write ups got smaller going down but it's real late. I'll have a play on the Rose and Fiesta Bowls that I will post when I get home tomorrow. I might add in a play during the day before the Big 10/SEC games kick off but doubtful. GL with your plays.
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                                              • Holtgetsback
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-04-10
                                                • 4655

                                                #1353
                                                Loving Penn St/Houston Under. Any early thoughts on that one??

                                                You hammered a few of my leans, particularly Florida and South Carolina.

                                                I suspect you will also be on Georgia around kickoff time?????
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                                                • The Seer
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-29-07
                                                  • 10641

                                                  #1354
                                                  Originally posted by Holtgetsback
                                                  Loving Penn St/Houston Under. Any early thoughts on that one?? You hammered a few of my leans, particularly Florida and South Carolina. I suspect you will also be on Georgia around kickoff time?????
                                                  If I had to play the total in Hou game it would be under. I almost put some on it but held off. It's still hard to back Georgia. I think Mich St has a motivational edge. I've got to get some sleep, GL.
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                                                  • SimonSayz
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 10-17-09
                                                    • 859

                                                    #1355
                                                    Good luck Seer....it's time to kill it today. I like the SCarolina play....have you looked at the FLA/OSU Total??
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                                                    • The Seer
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-29-07
                                                      • 10641

                                                      #1356
                                                      Originally posted by SimonSayz
                                                      Good luck Seer....it's time to kill it today. I like the SCarolina play....have you looked at the FLA/OSU Total??
                                                      I mentioned it in the write up. I like the under but I hate college totals in the 40s.
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                                                      • jihadvillager
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-25-11
                                                        • 2134

                                                        #1357
                                                        Originally posted by The Seer
                                                        Jan 2 Bowls- firing away
                                                        12 Eastern game
                                                        Penn St +7.5 2 units
                                                        Houston blew their conference title and a BCS game in their last game. They also are upset at how Sumlin left. Penn St players have shown alot of maturity in the way they handled the Joe Pa mess. They will be playing for Tom Bradley. The 70th ranked Southern Miss pass defense showed that you can slow down the Houston offense and Penn State has the players to do it. Penn State had the best scoring defense in the Big 10 at just over 15 pts per game and have the 5th ranked passing efficiency defense. Excluding the garbage time TD that Hou got with 10 seconds left, SM held them to 21. In 3 bowl games, Keenum has 3 td passes and 7 picks. Keenum's last bowl game started was a 47-20 beat down by Air force. Houston is 78th in rush defense. The 3 teams with the best defenses that Hou faced were UCLA where they won by 4, La Tech where they won by 1, and S.Miss. Penn St will play smash mouth with Hou and keep that offense off the field. Penn St hasn't lost back to back bowls since the mid 1970s and Joe Pa hasn't been doing too much coaching in several years anyway. Penn State's 3 losses were to Bama, Nebraska, and Wisconsin. I'll take the points with the team from the power conference and the dog with the much better defense.

                                                        1pm eastern games
                                                        All 3 are Big 10-SEC matchups
                                                        Interesting fact: Since 1990, out of 53 matchups between these conferences, the team that won also covered 49 out of 53 times.
                                                        In recent history, the SEC has easily had the upper hand. Last yr the SEC went 3-1: Fl beat Penn St by 2 TDs, Bama smashed MichSt 49-7, and Ms St crushed Mich 52-14. the lone Big 10 win was Oh St by 5 over Ark. The Ark defense was easily the lesser SEC defense out of the bunch.
                                                        Mich St/ Georgia under 50 1 unit
                                                        With Mich St and Georgia, both of these teams are in the top 17 in the country in the 3rd down conversion defense but Geo is 3rd. Both are in the top 10 in first down defense but Geo is 2nd. Both are in the top 9 in passing efficiency defense but Geo is better at 4th. Mich St does have a better redzone defense. Their rushing defenses are 11th and 12th. Michigan St is the only big 10 defense in my opinion with a front 7 of near caliber. I would go more units here but I hate taking unders in bowls. Georgia has slight edges here and both teams lost their title games but I think Mich St has superior motivation to Georgia in this game due to last yr's embarrassment so I may make a later play on the side.

                                                        South Carolina -2.5 2 units
                                                        South Carolina has a much better all around defense and Nebraska being a primary run team will play right into their hands as SC can stack the box since they have the second ranked passing defense. Also, Mobile QBs have given Nebraska fits. Wisconsin, NWestern, and Mich beat them outright and Ohio St built a 27-6 lead before Braxton Miller got hurt and had to leave the game. Their defense uses alot of man to man and when those DBs and Lbers turn their backs, the running QBs take off. Conner Shaw will run all over them and pick up key 3rd downs.

                                                        Florida -2 2 units
                                                        Ohio is very one deminsional on offense with 2/3 of their offense being runs. Florida is #13 in opponents yds per rushing attempt and #10 in passing D. Florida want's to pound Urban Meyer's new team as their is a big feeling of betrayal from those players. Florida's offense will also finally be healthy and they are more balanced. Their loses were to much better teams than OSU's. The Gators will have what is basically home field advantage as well. The under is definitely worth a look at too even though it is low.

                                                        lol, the write ups got smaller going down but it's real late. I'll have a play on the Rose and Fiesta Bowls that I will post when I get home tomorrow. I might add in a play during the day before the Big 10/SEC games kick off but doubtful. GL with your plays.

                                                        Thank you for the card Seer !
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                                                        • The Seer
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-29-07
                                                          • 10641

                                                          #1358
                                                          Originally posted by jihadvillager
                                                          Thank you for the card Seer !
                                                          I think these are solid. If more crazy shit happens, I give up.
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                                                          • Youkeepthislove
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 11-28-11
                                                            • 275

                                                            #1359
                                                            You have Mich St/Georgia at under 50.. My local has it at 44.? Your thoughts on o/u 44?
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                                                            • azn624
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-29-09
                                                              • 2771

                                                              #1360
                                                              Originally posted by Youkeepthislove
                                                              You have Mich St/Georgia at under 50.. My local has it at 44.? Your thoughts on o/u 44?
                                                              You sure that's not the O/U line for Florida ohio st game?
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                                                              • Youkeepthislove
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 11-28-11
                                                                • 275

                                                                #1361
                                                                Originally posted by azn624
                                                                You sure that's not the O/U line for Florida ohio st game?
                                                                Ya I'm positive.. I double checked because I thought it was a mistake too
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                                                                • Kivo35
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 12-20-10
                                                                  • 100

                                                                  #1362
                                                                  Seer,
                                                                  Penn State looks really bad. What do you think? Should we chase live on play Penn State +24½?
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                                                                  • The Seer
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-29-07
                                                                    • 10641

                                                                    #1363
                                                                    Originally posted by Kivo35
                                                                    Seer,
                                                                    Penn State looks really bad. What do you think? Should we chase live on play Penn State +24½?
                                                                    I'd stay away and maybe see what is there at the half.
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                                                                    • The Seer
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-29-07
                                                                      • 10641

                                                                      #1364
                                                                      Originally posted by Youkeepthislove
                                                                      You have Mich St/Georgia at under 50.. My local has it at 44.? Your thoughts on o/u 44?
                                                                      Your local is definitely taking a stance on the under. Locals can adjust them however they want though. I'd pass on that one. There's no value in it.
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                                                                      • jihadvillager
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 11-25-11
                                                                        • 2134

                                                                        #1365
                                                                        Thought our under was good - smart move at least only 1u- thought psu would have covered too as the late money pushed the number down to 7 but at least we start the day with a profit!
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