Is Heritage Really Charging $160 to Receive 799

[Bill Dozer]

They just need to describe the free payouts better instead of putting them in the description. They might be better off without even having those 20% options listed but if youre in a jam or have a hot date, maybe 20% works for you. Nothing wrong with one free check or paying $440 if you run it up and want $40,000.

[a4u2fear]

haha, like I'm going to deposit with these clowns. A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[KGambler]

A few thoughts...

1. It is not a viable business model for a book to offer free W U and M G payouts. It is very expensive for them to send and receive these payouts. Not only are these services a total rip off (10% fees), but the books have to pay 3rd party processors or employees to pick up the money. Clueless shops that allow free W U deposits go out of business (think BetPhoenix).

2. You can get one free check a month, but there is a $500 mininum and $3K max. This is not good for small bettors, nor large bettors. They should lower the min and raise the max (or allow multiple free checks per month when withdrawing more than $3K). If they don't want small bettors, that's fine. But then why have a relatively low $3K max? And if they don't want big bettors, than why have a high $500 min???

3. Most customers don't seem to understand the large transaction/processor fees these books are dealing with. They need to keep the fees below their theoretical hold percentage (duh). Crap books like BetPhoenix don't understand these simple concepts and wind up hemmorrhaging money. I am glad to see Heritage is a well run book. It should throw up a red flag when a book is offering huge bonuses and has no restrictions on W U and M G withdrawals. That being said, Heritage should offer more free options. It's not reasonable to expect them to offer free W U and M G payouts, but they should find other ways. Lowering the min check amount and raising the max would be a great start.

[FishFace5]

Garbage book. I agree, do not play at books that do not offer at least 1 free payout per month. Betislands, great book.

They give you one free check a month. 500 minimum - 3K max.

[FishFace5]

^^
Great post KGambler.... +1

[Grandmaster B]

A few thoughts...

1. It is not a viable business model for a book to offer free W U and M G payouts. It is very expensive for them to send and receive these payouts. Not only are these services a total rip off (10% fees), but the books have to pay 3rd party processors or employees to pick up the money. Clueless shops that allow free W U deposits go out of business (think BetPhoenix).

2. You can get one free check a month, but there is a $500 mininum and $3K max. This is not good for small bettors, nor large bettors. They should lower the min and raise the max (or allow multiple free checks per month when withdrawing more than $3K). If they don't want small bettors, that's fine. But then why have a relatively low $3K max? And if they don't want big bettors, than why have a high $500 min???

3. Most customers don't seem to understand the large transaction/processor fees these books are dealing with. They need to keep the fees below their theoretical hold percentage (duh). Crap books like BetPhoenix don't understand these simple concepts and wind up hemmorrhaging money. I am glad to see Heritage is a well run book. It should throw up a red flag when a book is offering huge bonuses and has no restrictions on W U and M G withdrawals. That being said, Heritage should offer more free options. It's not reasonable to expect them to offer free W U and M G payouts, but they should find other ways. Lowering the min check amount and raising the max would be a great start.

so betislands offers a free p2p payout per 30 days...are they going out of buisness?

A+ rating for books that skim 10% off the top of your withdraw (we all know the fee is not 20%)

B- rating for a book that takes nothing off the top and covers the fee to pay you

do that math on that one and get back to me

[playbook]

stay aWAY FROM HERITAGESPORTSBOOK THEY ARE RUDE THERE CASINO ARE AS RIGGED AS ANY IVE EVER SEN AND THE DONT PAY TRUST ME STAY AWAY FROM THEM PLEASE

[Grandmaster B]

They give you one free check a month. 500 minimum - 3K max.

checks are a bad prop

they can be debited out of your account for up to 6 months after being cashed

drawn from a bank not in the USA

paper trail

they are as worthless as the paper they're printed on

stay aWAY FROM HERITAGESPORTSBOOK THEY ARE RUDE THERE CASINO ARE AS RIGGED AS ANY IVE EVER SEN AND THE DONT PAY TRUST ME STAY AWAY FROM THEM PLEASE

I trust infromation from posters more than what a site tells me thats getting paid to promote

thx for the heads up

[bradthebloke]

stay aWAY FROM HERITAGESPORTSBOOK THEY ARE RUDE THERE CASINO ARE AS RIGGED AS ANY IVE EVER SEN AND THE DONT PAY TRUST ME STAY AWAY FROM THEM PLEASE

interesting first post

[bachngocduong]

Is 799 the most you can do at most books? I remeber btjam had like a $1500 max

betjamaica and DSI the same $165 fee max $2500 for me but now only dsi

[Microphone]

A few thoughts...

1. It is not a viable business model for a book to offer free W U and M G payouts. It is very expensive for them to send and receive these payouts. Not only are these services a total rip off (10% fees), but the books have to pay 3rd party processors or employees to pick up the money. Clueless shops that allow free W U deposits go out of business (think BetPhoenix).

Any deposits I've done with 5 Dimes have been free of any W> U> charge. Is there some bleeding I should be aware of?

[Eagle1958]

Doesn't seem to be as good a book as so many say it is. Wouldn't want to be invited

[The Inevitable]

Wow glad I haven't deposited into Heritage yet. Is 5Dimes accepting US players?

[Tilt360]

That outrage fee for a withdrawn why can't they charge us the same as we deposit with W U or Money G. I did a withdrawn by check and it arrive in 4day by fedex.

[I/O]

Fuk all these offshores

I'm going local for football

[rm18]

It is only $70 and they pay fast but they should not of had that message up and no customer service on duty so I made the thread

[FishFace5]

Any deposits I've done with 5 Dimes have been free of any W> U> charge. Is there some bleeding I should be aware of?

Hes referring to withdraws

[cloverfield]

A few thoughts...

1. It is not a viable business model for a book to offer free W U and M G payouts. It is very expensive for them to send and receive these payouts. Not only are these services a total rip off (10% fees), but the books have to pay 3rd party processors or employees to pick up the money. Clueless shops that allow free W U deposits go out of business (think BetPhoenix).

2. You can get one free check a month, but there is a $500 mininum and $3K max. This is not good for small bettors, nor large bettors. They should lower the min and raise the max (or allow multiple free checks per month when withdrawing more than $3K). If they don't want small bettors, that's fine. But then why have a relatively low $3K max? And if they don't want big bettors, than why have a high $500 min???

3. Most customers don't seem to understand the large transaction/processor fees these books are dealing with. They need to keep the fees below their theoretical hold percentage (duh). Crap books like BetPhoenix don't understand these simple concepts and wind up hemmorrhaging money. I am glad to see Heritage is a well run book. It should throw up a red flag when a book is offering huge bonuses and has no restrictions on W U and M G withdrawals. That being said, Heritage should offer more free options. It's not reasonable to expect them to offer free W U and M G payouts, but they should find other ways. Lowering the min check amount and raising the max would be a great start.

You're wasting your time trying to be sensible. There are always going to be negative Nancys about every book. They offer a free payout once a month by check. They charge industry standards as far as **/** go. BetIslands offers one free **//** per month, great but I still wouldn't deposit there if my life depended on it. It is also widely known that the backers of Heritage are well regarded in the industry.

If you have questions it's best to ask the book directly, don't rely on possible degenerates or people who can't get an invite to the book bashing it. Everyone loved Betjamaica, and this is basically an identical book almost down to the staff, but this is such a "crappy" book. People want to withdraw for free 2x a week via W-U/M-G... If YOU know the book is competent and like playing there, just enjoy the experience.

[YorkHunt]

Isnt this called THEFT

[jesuseatsnubs]

while i agree the price is OUTRAGES .. to anyone who still uses Heritage .. just do your one free payout a month .. and just try to stick with that .. unless your planning on withdrawing huge sums of money ..

cause with Pinnacle you can withdraw any amount of money and the charge is only $15 - 17

and u get 1 free withdraw a month with Pinnacle for ANY amount of money u wanna withdraw !!

god I love Pinnacle lol

[bradleysnyder]

if you need a payout more than once every 30 days this is not the right buis for you.I get one free check every 30 days from heritage and thats all i need.If i had to cash out more often i would just pay the $55 check fee and wait 2 days and have the check.If your cashing out $1000 + who cares about a $55 fee.Thats the beauty of the internet

[Grandmaster B]

You're wasting your time trying to be sensible. There are always going to be negative Nancys about every book. They offer a free payout once a month by check. They charge industry standards as far as **/** go. BetIslands offers one free **//** per month, great but I still wouldn't deposit there if my life depended on it. It is also widely known that the backers of Heritage are well regarded in the industry.

If you have questions it's best to ask the book directly, don't rely on possible degenerates or people who can't get an invite to the book bashing it. Everyone loved Betjamaica, and this is basically an identical book almost down to the staff, but this is such a "crappy" book. People want to withdraw for free 2x a week via W-U/M-G... If YOU know the book is competent and like playing there, just enjoy the experience.

why are you bashing a book that dosent skim 10% off the top of players monies?

[FishFace5]

^^
Find some where else to troll guy.
Your shtick is tired

[Grandmaster B]

^^
Find some where else to troll guy.
Your shtick is tired

and you're shilling has made real players wanna vomit

[Grandmaster B]

Garbage book.

I agree, do not play at books that do not offer at least 1 free payout per month.

Betislands, great book.

now this is the type of posting I expect from you...all that nonsense with bateman is a waste of time

[FishFace5]

^^
You're gonna call me a shill guy!!??
Your sole purpose here for 2 years has been to shamelessly shill and troll the forum.
You have 5,500+ brainless posts, you dont even know how to participate in conversation without some underlying scummy motive
but sure call me a shill (I challenge you to find one post in which I shill for a book)

[Grandmaster B]

^^
You're gonna call me a shill guy!!??
Your sole purpose here for 2 years has to be to shamelessly shill and troll the forum.
You have 5,500+ brainless posts, you dont even know how to participate in conversation without some underlying scummy motive
but sure call me a shill (I challenge you to find one post in which I shill for a book)

well there is a few posts in this thread by you defending the 10% taken off the top by heritage...when a player withdraws funds using the p2p method

thats not industry standard sorry...never has been

Bookmaker A+ used to offer one free payout via p2p a month for platinum members...then they took it away...that 10% off the top for all p2p withdraws may not sound like much but multiply that by 83634 accounts and anyone with half a brain will start to understand exactly what is going on


This is a misunderstanding that opened the door to those looking to knock Heritage. I can assure you and all our customers, we maintain some of the fastest payout options available. We do not have profit margin in payment processing and in fact is one of the largest expenses to our operations.


Read the bolded part...shill a little more defending that statement...pray for a freeplay as a reward for your shilling...then log off and go watch another re run of glee

Industry Standard?

Sending these offshore books your DL and SSI# is 'Industry Standard' too right?

Yet Iven been betting offshore since 1996 and have taken NUMEROUS payouts and not once have I had to provide anything but a name to send the funds.

Take that 'Industry Standard' line and shove it up ur ass

[FishFace5]

^^
I never defended what you call taking 10% off the top. I quoted a post by paco in which he calls heritage a crap book becuase they dont offer any free payment methods. I simply pointed out that they do offer one free check a month.
....and your claim that you've never provided a social or DL # to an online book is complete horseshit. I cant claim to have experience going back to 96 but Ive been gambling offshore for 5 or 6 and every book I've ever deposited with has my SS #. Your not special guy and most of what you post is not true.

[Grandmaster B]

^^
I never defended what you call taking 10% off the top. I quoted a post by paco in which he calls heritage a crap book becuase they dont offer any free payment methods. I simply pointed out that they do offer one free check a month.
....and your claim that you've never provided a social or DL # to an online book is complete horseshit. I cant claim to have experience going back to 96 but Ive been gambling offshore for 5 or 6 and every book I've ever deposited with has my SS #. Your not special guy and most of what you post is not true.

thats right you dont...so maybe you should sit back and learn something

experience trumps all and I dont need to lie on a internet forum

here is a list of the books ive played at where I was not required to provide what you so easily give up when asked for it

SIA
Intertops
Bowmans
Bodog
Skybook
Cybersportsbook
Bookmaker
5Dimes

you know the only book that ever tried to pull the "we need your ID on file" on me to process a p2p withdraw?

Betjm...they're now heritage right?



this information is off topic as it pertains to this thread...but it is related to the 'Industry Standard' line shills love to toss around so much on the forums

bottom line is...if you choose to let a book bone you for your money thats your option...but calling me out saying im lying is not cool. I have no reason or motives to lie about any of my experiences offshore. If anything I would like to see the newer players educated so they dont get taken advantage of when they do decide to post up. What is your motive?

[Grandmaster B]

^^
I never defended what you call taking 10% off the top. I quoted a post by paco in which he calls heritage a crap book becuase they dont offer any free payment methods. I simply pointed out that they do offer one free check a month.
....and your claim that you've never provided a social or DL # to an online book is complete horseshit. I cant claim to have experience going back to 96 but Ive been gambling offshore for 5 or 6 and every book I've ever deposited with has my SS #. Your not special guy and most of what you post is not true.

wow I just had to read that again...to make sure my eyes werent as bad as I thought they were

[gomiamigo]

Heritage does offer free payouts. One every 30 days. Check in hand--3 days.

I asked for one and they did not send me a check, fwiw.

[dante1]

thats right you dont...so maybe you should sit back and learn something

experience trumps all and I dont need to lie on a internet forum

here is a list of the books ive played at where I was not required to provide what you so easily give up when asked for it

SIA
Intertops
Bowmans
Bodog
Skybook
Cybersportsbook
Bookmaker
5Dimes

you know the only book that ever tried to pull the "we need your ID on file" on me to process a p2p withdraw?

Betjm...they're now heritage right?



this information is off topic as it pertains to this thread...but it is related to the 'Industry Standard' line shills love to toss around so much on the forums

bottom line is...if you choose to let a book bone you for your money thats your option...but calling me out saying im lying is not cool. I have no reason or motives to lie about any of my experiences offshore. If anything I would like to see the newer players educated so they dont get taken advantage of when they do decide to post up. What is your motive?

Not true, I have been playing offshore since, God I can't even remember. I first played before internet with a gang called ESB. It wasn't until years later when internet wagering started and I am positive that you need proof of ID with bookmaker and I am fairly certain that you need proof with some of those other books you mentioned.

My last half dozen or so wd's from bookmaker were made without id so perhaps they changed that but years ago they definitely asked for id and probably still do with new players. I would be a little concerned if a book wasn't interested in my proper id.

[Grandmaster B]

Not true, I have been playing offshore since, God I can't even remember. I first played before internet with a gang called ESB. It wasn't until years later when internet wagering started and I am positive that you need proof of ID with bookmaker and I am fairly certain that you need proof with some of those other books you mentioned.

My last half dozen or so wd's from bookmaker were made without id so perhaps they changed that but years ago they definitely asked for id and probably still do with new players. I would be a little concerned if a book wasn't interested in my proper id.

well

I only deal with p2p...no checks...NEVER...maybe thats why I dont need a ID to withdraw

im not eager to send out my information to a 3rd world country

to each their own


p.s. why would you care about a book wanting your proper ID?...should I ask them to provide me a copy of the ID for the person im sending funds to via p2p?

"hello...can I please be faxed a copy of the ID for Robeto Villanova Suela Guttierez before I send my money..ok thx"

its just a name...

[FishFace5]

^^
Dante, the only thing this clown is the grandmaster of is lies and photoshop.
The idea hes claiming to have all these accounts without ever giving a DL and SS is a complete joke (and lie).
Like I said, not sure how they did things in 96 but I know "industry standards" in 2011 are you need to prove who the **** you are. That means providing personal info. I'm not saying to let these books bend you over for every bit of info imaginable but you're gonna have to give up some vitals, no way around it.

[Grandmaster B]

^^
Dante, the only thing this clown is the grandmaster of is lies and photoshop.
The idea hes claiming to have all these accounts without ever giving a DL and SS is a complete joke (and lie).
Like I said, not sure how they did things in 96 but I know "industry standards" in 2011 are you need to prove who the **** you are. That means providing personal info. I'm not saying to let these books bend you over for every but of info imaginable but you're gonna have to give up some vitals, no way around it.

Ive been with bookmaker 10years +

why dont we make a little bet...with the points you have right now 450

I will prove what Im saying using bookmaker as the example

if I win...you have to give your points away to the posters of my choosing...not even to me

if I lose (which is a sure thing according to you) then you can post a thread saying I lied about what I said here and I will enter that thread acknowledging you're correct with your statement

thats is unless of course you care about those points that much...and dont want to lose them

because you will son