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  • King Mayan
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    • 09-22-10
    • 21326

    #36
    Originally posted by stevenash
    Ever hear Perry speak?

    He'll make Obama look like a monkey in a one on one debate.
    Yes. Another ignorant texan. He sure will win.
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    • tblues2005
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      • 07-30-06
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      #37
      This is the way I look at it. Obama hasn't been that great but he has done some major things though as President like the health care bill, changing don't ask don't tell, ending the war in Iraq, and catching Bin Laden. He has done some stuff that I question though like trying to get the economy back on track which was getting really bad when he got into office by a President that didn't care about the country for the last two years of his term. I do look at this way though. Putting one of these tea party candidates like Bachman or Palin would be a terrible mistake. They would cut just about everything that we have currently to the bone to cater to the wealthy. I hope the GOP isn't that crazy to put either one of them in office. I do think that Perry would be a mistake also coming from the same state as Bush is from and he even looks like Bush too. I do think that Romney has the best chance from what I see because he is more moderate than the tea party people are and the general population would possibly like him.

      Obama has a lot of work to do to win me over again like getting the economy going in the right direction which I haven't seen as of yet. He should have done something on the oil speculators because that does affect the economy without a doubt. If we pay too much for gasoline it doesn't give us anything left to spend on stuff that would help the economy. The other thing is that he should be doing his very hardest to get stuff made here instead of elsewhere and the way to do that is to put tariff taxes on these companies that ship our jobs overseas and then ship those products here to sell them here. It is going to be a hard way to go for Obama over these next 15 months to get this country back on track but one way for him to something about it is to do something about the oil speculators that control our energy prices and that is something that he could do right away and that is request a bill that limits these oil speculators on how much they can pull their games. I was suggesting when he first got into office that he should have added more oil the oil reserve at the lower prices and then let the speculators know if it gets too high he will release that oil that was adding to oil reserve to get the prices down. Then he should have requested congress to put some limits on what the oil speculators can do unless you consume the product like the airlines and trucking companies do. These high gasoline prices have affected our economy and that is the main reason why the economy hasn't gone anywhere because of that. When you send billions of our dollars overseas to countries that don't like us very much instead of keeping it here hurts our economy without a doubt.

      In order for Obama to get in for a second term he has to make sure that gasoline prices over these next 15 months are not too high and that could be our tax break instead of some tax break from the government and he has to do something about these jobs being sent overseas and get them started right here at home. The people in congress need to do something about creating jobs also because they need to get a jobs bill done right or they will be in trouble also next year. I haven't seen a jobs bill yet and it is getting close to end of the summer. When they get back in September I hope they have heard it from their people that we need a jobs bill bad and I hope they get that done first.
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      • marcojuiceman
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        • 05-25-11
        • 2870

        #38
        Originally posted by tblues2005
        This is the way I look at it. Obama hasn't been that great but he has done some major things though as President like the health care bill, changing don't ask don't tell, ending the war in Iraq, and catching Bin Laden. He has done some stuff that I question though like trying to get the economy back on track which was getting really bad when he got into office by a President that didn't care about the country for the last two years of his term. I do look at this way though. Putting one of these tea party candidates like Bachman or Palin would be a terrible mistake. They would cut just about everything that we have currently to the bone to cater to the wealthy. I hope the GOP isn't that crazy to put either one of them in office. I do think that Perry would be a mistake also coming from the same state as Bush is from and he even looks like Bush too. I do think that Romney has the best chance from what I see because he is more moderate than the tea party people are and the general population would possibly like him. Obama has a lot of work to do to win me over again like getting the economy going in the right direction which I haven't seen as of yet. He should have done something on the oil speculators because that does affect the economy without a doubt. If we pay too much for gasoline it doesn't give us anything left to spend on stuff that would help the economy. The other thing is that he should be doing his very hardest to get stuff made here instead of elsewhere and the way to do that is to put tariff taxes on these companies that ship our jobs overseas and then ship those products here to sell them here. It is going to be a hard way to go for Obama over these next 15 months to get this country back on track but one way for him to something about it is to do something about the oil speculators that control our energy prices and that is something that he could do right away and that is request a bill that limits these oil speculators on how much they can pull their games. I was suggesting when he first got into office that he should have added more oil the oil reserve at the lower prices and then let the speculators know if it gets too high he will release that oil that was adding to oil reserve to get the prices down. Then he should have requested congress to put some limits on what the oil speculators can do unless you consume the product like the airlines and trucking companies do. These high gasoline prices have affected our economy and that is the main reason why the economy hasn't gone anywhere because of that. When you send billions of our dollars overseas to countries that don't like us very much instead of keeping it here hurts our economy without a doubt. In order for Obama to get in for a second term he has to make sure that gasoline prices over these next 15 months are not too high and that could be our tax break instead of some tax break from the government and he has to do something about these jobs being sent overseas and get them started right here at home. The people in congress need to do something about creating jobs also because they need to get a jobs bill done right or they will be in trouble also next year. I haven't seen a jobs bill yet and it is getting close to end of the summer. When they get back in September I hope they have heard it from their people that we need a jobs bill bad and I hope they get that done first.
        hate to tell you the bad news but gas prices will never drop dramatically. The US doesn't control Oil so the prices depend on the Middle East
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        • Killer_Demo
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          • 06-15-08
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          #39
          only thing obummer has is good speech...words cant change the sorry ass situation
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          • iceminers26
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            • 10-13-08
            • 15600

            #40
            poor Obama

            what does a president make per year, $150k or something? so x 4 years that is $600k, I know some people it takes them 25 years to make that amount of money and their work is much harder than what Obama does.

            And he'll probably get re-elected because this country is clueless
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            • NYSportsGuy210
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              • 11-07-09
              • 11347

              #41
              Originally posted by DwightShrute
              you never answered the question.

              who ever he faces in a one on one debate, he will lose. He can't defend his first and only term as President. No matter how smooth he talks. Change hasn't worked.

              so let me ask it again ... What topic will Obama shine on? The economy? Jobs? Foreign policy? Other?

              "Change" was never even given a chance. So you can't say anything.
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              • NYSportsGuy210
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                • 11-07-09
                • 11347

                #42
                Originally posted by iceminers26
                poor Obama

                what does a president make per year, $150k or something? so x 4 years that is $600k, I know some people it takes them 25 years to make that amount of money and their work is much harder than what Obama does.

                And he'll probably get re-elected because this country is clueless

                Another retard thinking he knows politics


                Gotta love this board.
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                • topgame85
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                  • 03-30-08
                  • 12325

                  #43
                  Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                  "Change" was never even given a chance. So you can't say anything.

                  He had a fair amount of time to get significant things done to help the economy. Unfortunately he spent that time getting the health care bill through which was all for naught as it is now being shot down by the courts. He had bad priorities and he may pay for it unless he can really get to work in the next 12 months. the problem is now he does not have congress which kind of makes him a hostage/lame duck. the repubs will be happy to stall anything that comes to congress and let us get buried deeper if they think they have a better chance at taking the presidency and more seats in 2012. I do agree he has had trouble and been held hostage for awhile now but he did have his shot to do things for a good amount of time.
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                  • I/O
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                    • 05-26-11
                    • 7922

                    #44
                    Originally posted by frostno98
                    This was why this guy got elected
                    The best thing about watching Obama and his wife crash and burn....

                    Is how soooo many from the Ultra Left that supported him have done their damn best to rip him and distance themselves.

                    Hope & Change

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                    • pavyracer
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                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82839

                      #45
                      Obama will win in a landslide again. And the Tea Baggers, Right Wing Religious Nuts will be bitching and moaning for the next 4 years again.
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #46
                        Obama's biggest problem is typical democratic spending and helping poor

                        poor does not help usa at all

                        We need more balance

                        Vote Rep
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                        • wikkidinsane
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                          • 05-30-10
                          • 13799

                          #47
                          you guys are silly. Obama do not need a teleprompter, he will be well spoken without. Can't say enough for the cawk whore BAWK-MEN and all the guys Nailin Palin
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                          • NYSportsGuy210
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-07-09
                            • 11347

                            #48
                            Originally posted by topgame85
                            He had a fair amount of time to get significant things done to help the economy. Unfortunately he spent that time getting the health care bill through which was all for naught as it is now being shot down by the courts. He had bad priorities and he may pay for it unless he can really get to work in the next 12 months. the problem is now he does not have congress which kind of makes him a hostage/lame duck. the repubs will be happy to stall anything that comes to congress and let us get buried deeper if they think they have a better chance at taking the presidency and more seats in 2012. I do agree he has had trouble and been held hostage for awhile now but he did have his shot to do things for a good amount of time.

                            You can have ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD.....it doesn't mean squat if you have Republicans purposely voting against everything you try to pass or create as far as progressive legislature goes just because you are not their political affiliation or support their corrupt objectives. The man has done a terrific job considering all the shady, bi-partisan BS he has endured since he took the oath.

                            The bottom line is that when Congress is bought.....I don't care if you are Jesus or Allah themselves as commander in chief....you are not gonna get anything done with the corrupt bigotry surrounding you.
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                            • NYSportsGuy210
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-07-09
                              • 11347

                              #49
                              Originally posted by I/O
                              The best thing about watching Obama and his wife crash and burn....

                              Is how soooo many from the Ultra Left that supported him have done their damn best to rip him and distance themselves.

                              Hope & Change


                              There is no such such thing as an "Ultra Left". That's actually the problem....and that's the the reason why the "Ultra Right" is getting away with murder and destroying this country. They nearly caused our government to default two weeks ago.
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                              • rsnnh12
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                                • 09-26-10
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                You can have ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD.....it doesn't mean squat if you have Republicans purposely voting against everything you try to pass or create as far as progressive legislature goes just because you are not their political affiliation or support their corrupt objectives.

                                The bottom line is that when Congress is bought.....I don't care if you are Jesus or Allah themselves as commander in chief....you are not gonna get anything done with the corrupt bigotry surrounding you.
                                So what's Obama's excuse for the first 2 years, when the Dems controlled everything?
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                                • rsnnh12
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                                  • 09-26-10
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                  They nearly caused our government to default two weeks ago.
                                  That didn't have anything to do with the absurd deficits that have been run up since Reid, Pelosi, and now Obama gained control of the budget?
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                                  • NYSportsGuy210
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                                    • 11-07-09
                                    • 11347

                                    #52
                                    Obama's only misstep was that he pushed medical reform too early in his term as President before he tried to balance the budget. If your only "misstep" as a President is you tried to pass a program through that takes cares of your poor and needy then how can you be a bad person?

                                    What kind of sick logic is that?

                                    And he actually tried budget reform as well just got shot down by the right wingers early on. He is "handcuffed" by all this bi-partisan nonsense.

                                    You have to understand that when the founding fathers made the Constitution of the United States and enforced government practices....they didn't do it so power could go in the hands of the greedy and stupid like it is today. It was meant to be an equal and fair system run by those who put country first and themselves second. Not to be manipulated by greedy and ignorant SOB's who only care about their bottom line wallet figures. No way in hell a system of checks and balances would be in play today with all the nonsense and the kind of degenerates working up in Washington. Corrupt government has gotta go first.

                                    It's so bad....crazy Radicals like Ron Paul now are considered "sane" and "viable" candidates. Back in the 60's a guy like Ron Paul wouldn't have even had a shot to be nominated on the Republican ballot. He would just been considered an educated man of "political science".
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                                    • NYSportsGuy210
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                                      • 11-07-09
                                      • 11347

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by rsnnh12
                                      That didn't have anything to do with the absurd deficits that have been run up since Reid, Pelosi, and now Obama gained control of the budget?
                                      I think you mean George W. Bush you creton. Oh but hey let's give him a pardon casue he's a Republican right?
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                                      • rsnnh12
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                        I think you mean George W. Bush you creton. Oh but hey let's give him a pardon casue he's a Republican right?
                                        You do know Congress controls spending, right?



                                        Now, who has been in charge of the budget since 2007/2008? Because right around then is when our spending went crazy. I have never once said the spending under Bush and the Republicans was acceptable, but to say this is all his fault is laughable. Why is Bush/Republicans having a deficit of $400 billion in 1 year a disaster, but Obama and the Democrats running multiple trillion dollar deficits okay in your eyes?
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                                        • NYSportsGuy210
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                                          • 11-07-09
                                          • 11347

                                          #55
                                          Yea they do. But when it comes to starting $5 trillion wars....you do know it's the President's power to start those right?
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                                          • wikkidinsane
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                                            • 05-30-10
                                            • 13799

                                            #56
                                            rsn you know we have had a defecit for almost 40 years now right? And its been growing ever since. Republican presidents on avergae spike it higher than dems do.
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                                            • rsnnh12
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                                              • 09-26-10
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by wikkidinsane
                                              rsn you know we have had a defecit for almost 40 years now right? And its been growing ever since. Republican presidents on avergae spike it higher than dems do.
                                              Yes, I'm well aware of that. The issue I have is with people blaming this all on the spending of Bush and the Republicans (see NYs post above) but absolving Obama and the Democrats from any blame. They are ALL to blame, and Obama/Reid/Pelosi have done more to add to the current debt ceiling/default issue than Bush did, which is all my argument was.

                                              The only real acceptable deficit in my eyes was under Reagan. His entire deficit was with defense spending, and it helped end the Cold War. The problem is that the defense spending was never really scaled back down, and that is a huge problem.
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                                              • NYSportsGuy210
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                                                • 11-07-09
                                                • 11347

                                                #58
                                                Most of Obama's spending was to prevent this economy from another Great Depression back in 2008. He got nothing for bailing those banks out of their corrupt business practices.
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                                                • topgame85
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                                                  • 03-30-08
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by rsnnh12
                                                  So what's Obama's excuse for the first 2 years, when the Dems controlled everything?

                                                  This is what I was referring to above when i said he had plenty of time. Dems had the house a huge advantage in Senate on POTUS. No reason he could not have gotten more important matters attended to.
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                                                  • jarvol
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                                                    • 09-13-10
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by marcojuiceman
                                                    And i guess you are a republican?
                                                    You as usual guessed wrong. I'm a realist.
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                                                    • rsnnh12
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                                      Most of Obama's spending was to prevent this economy from another Great Depression back in 2008. He got nothing for bailing those banks out of their corrupt business practices.


                                                      He didn't even apply the theory of "government spending to prevent recession/depression" properly... not even close. It calls for a direct injection of cash and letting it filter through the economy... its kinda similar to the theory of trickle down economics in that way, actually. Funny how Democrats say that theory could never work, but Obama's bastardization of Keynesian theory saved us
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                                                      • jarvol
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                                                        • 09-13-10
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by tblues2005
                                                        Obama has a lot of work to do to win me over again like getting the economy going in the right direction which I haven't seen as of yet. He should have done something on the oil speculators because that does affect the economy without a doubt. If we pay too much for gasoline it doesn't give us anything left to spend on stuff that would help the economy.

                                                        In order for Obama to get in for a second term he has to make sure that gasoline prices over these next 15 months are not too high and that could be our tax break instead of some tax break from the government and he has to do something about these jobs being sent overseas and get them started right here at home. The people in congress need to do something about creating jobs also because they need to get a jobs bill done right or they will be in trouble also next year. I haven't seen a jobs bill yet and it is getting close to end of the summer. When they get back in September I hope they have heard it from their people that we need a jobs bill bad and I hope they get that done first.
                                                        You realize what you are advocating when you want the government to control the prices of commodities don't you?

                                                        I never heard anybody complaining about speculators when oil was $40 a barrel 2 years ago and there was heavy speculation on the short side.
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                                                        • jarvol
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                                                          • 09-13-10
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                                          "Change" was never even given a chance. So you can't say anything.
                                                          How so? For 2 years "Change" controlled the White House and both houses of Congress.

                                                          Was a Change in foreign policy enacted and the wars ended and Gitmo and many other foreign military bases closed?

                                                          Did a Change in economic policy and "job saving stimulus" reduce unemployment and spur GDP?

                                                          Did a promise to Change business as usual in Washington take place and a move away from lobbyist in the presidential cabinet happen?
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                                                          • NYSportsGuy210
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                                                            • 11-07-09
                                                            • 11347

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                                            You can have ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD.....it doesn't mean squat if you have Republicans purposely voting against everything you try to pass or create as far as progressive legislature goes just because you are not their political affiliation or support their corrupt objectives. The man has done a terrific job considering all the shady, bi-partisan BS he has endured since he took the oath.

                                                            The bottom line is that when Congress is bought.....I don't care if you are Jesus or Allah themselves as commander in chief....you are not gonna get anything done with the corrupt bigotry surrounding you.

                                                            Once again here is your answer.
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                                                            • NYSportsGuy210
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                                                              • 11-07-09
                                                              • 11347

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by jarvol
                                                              How so? For 2 years "Change" controlled the White House and both houses of Congress.

                                                              Was a change in foreign policy enacted and the wars ended and Gitmo and many other foreign military bases closed?

                                                              Did a change in economic policy and "job saving stimulus" reduce unemployment and spur GDP?

                                                              I already answered that.
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                                                              • d2bets
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by frostno98
                                                                One's thing for certain. Comes election time and debate time, I'm 100% confidence he'll make all them teabaggers look likes fools
                                                                They make themselves look like fools.
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                                                                • jarvol
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                                                  Obama's only misstep was that he pushed medical reform too early in his term as President before he tried to balance the budget. If your only "misstep" as a President is you tried to pass a program through that takes cares of your poor and needy then how can you be a bad person?

                                                                  What kind of sick logic is that?
                                                                  That kind of logic is that it is not the taxpayer's responsibility to take care of the poor and needy. Churches and charities are tax-exempt for a reason. If a poor or needy person's family and friends and churches and charities won't take care of them then it certainly isn't the government's right to steal from others in order to provide for them.
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                                                                  • jarvol
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                                                                    • 09-13-10
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                                                    Yea they do. But when it comes to starting $5 trillion wars....you do know it's the President's power to start those right?
                                                                    Then why hasn't President Obama stopped those wars instead of continuing them and starting more?

                                                                    Why did Senator Obama vote for the wars?

                                                                    Hypocrisy amuses me.
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                                                                    • pavyracer
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                                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                                      • 82839

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by jarvol
                                                                      Then why hasn't President Obama stopped those wars instead of continuing them and starting more?

                                                                      Why did Senator Obama vote for the wars?

                                                                      Hypocrisy amuses me.
                                                                      I'm pretty sure everyone who voted yes on these wars was told by Cheney and Bush that the Mission Will Be Accomplished in 2 months. Once it was evident this was a lie and it dragged on for 5-10 years they would have liked to get their votes back and revote.
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                                                                      • wikkidinsane
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                                                                        • 05-30-10
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        President Obama voted for the war because of the false information he received from the bush admin just like a host of other congressman n women
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