Anyone watch the Republican debate?

[crustyme]

Good thing your boyfriend Obama never misspoke, huh? What are there, 57 states according to Obama?

thought you had me on ignore?

typical neocon/pathological liar.

[stikymess]

it's that old joke! How do you know when a politician is lying? His lips are moving.

These guys all promise the moon, but as Mayan said he can't control the house or senate.

[chantrain]

hell no I didn't watch. I gave up on politics. Politics in this country is just an unfunny joke.

I dropped that shit like a bad habit.

As soon as I'm able I'm moving to the Netherlands or some place where they don't treat pot heads like criminals, then I'll smoke myself stupid all while giving the finger to this once-great-but-now-retarded nation.

[stikymess]

Damn it Nats are you drinking again!

[Nats' Fan]

Do you guys think the "tea-party" is good or bad for this country?

[Nats' Fan]

Damn it Nats are you drinking again!

Yes, indeed.

[Nats' Fan]

Stiky: u play poker tonite?

[Iced]

yeah honest..... except all these lies he's told.

• He falsely claimed last December that the estate tax "especially harms small and family-owned businesses." But if the estate tax was returned to 2009 levels, less than 8 percent of estates taxed in 2011 would be family farms and businesses, according to the Tax Policy Center. The tax deal struck by President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans would affect 440 such estates, more than half of which are worth more than $20 million each. Paul also said that the estate tax was "double taxation." That's only the case for cash that had been taxed when it was earned as income. Investments, such as stocks, bonds and real estate, would not have been taxed before, if they had not been sold prior to the owner's death.
• He made the wild claim that "16,500 armed bureaucrats" from the IRS would enforce the mandate that everyone have health insurance. That figure came from a partisan analysis based on false assumptions. Plus, the IRS will mainly distribute tax credits, not enforce penalties. And "armed"? Very few, if any, new hires would actually carry guns. As of 2009, the IRS had only 2,725 (3 percent of all employees) who were "special agents," sworn law enforcement officers assigned to criminal cases and authorized to carry guns. The health care law also bans criminal penalties for those not abiding by the mandate.
• In the 2008 campaign, Paul pushed the bogus conspiracy theory that government bureaucrats and foreign corporations were plotting a "NAFTA Superhighway" and the creation of a North American Union with a single currency. It's all a myth.
• He also claimed in the last presidential race that the U.S. had a "$1 trillion foreign operation" to maintain "our empire." But his $1 trillion figure included all defense spending, plus half of NASA's funding, medical and retirement pay for veterans, the U.S. Border Patrol, airport security, the issuing of passports, cargo inspections, the FBI's counter-terrorism unit, and 92 percent of interest payments on the debt, among other items.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/05/factchecking-paul/

a typical neocon bullshitter.

In what world is Ron Paul a neocon? Your ignorance of relatively simple political terms continues to astound me. And those factual flubs aren't even flubs. #1 is true and the author displays his/her economic ignorance. #2 ok, maybe he's wrong. But really, he said there were 16,000 IRS agents instead of 3,000? OMG the horror, what a liar. #3 the author doesn't go into any analysis. Ron Paul was speculating on future events anyway, so he can't be wrong yet. #4 the author proves that Ron Paul was right.

And if that's the worst that Ron Paul has said in his career, then I'm okay with that.

Obama promised to bring troops home and shutdown Gitmo and end the Libya war in two days and cut the deficit in half and restore the economy and a whole slew of other lies.



Nice economic forecasting Obama.

[chantrain]

Do you guys think the "tea-party" is good or bad for this country?

Let's see...a group of people who claim to be populists, but are run and controlled by rich corporatists, who lobby for policy that benefits rich corporations.


uhm, BAD. I always cringe when buffoons wearing silly hats scream about economics, but have never cracked an economics text book in their entire life.

[stikymess]

Stiky: u play poker tonite?

Not tonight, you must be playing right?

[Nats' Fan]

Again, I'm a Democrat.. but I'll be the first to admit, Obama has not been effective. Not to say he hasn't done some good things, cuz he has. But, he has fallen way short of what was promised.

[chantrain]

and Ron Paul is an honorable man but a fool, he can't do even 90% of the things he proposes. If he was a dictator maybe he could, but he's a radical libertarian who will find absolutely no allies in any other branch of government IF by some miracle he manages to become president.

[Nats' Fan]

Not tonight, you must be playing right?

not tonite.

[stikymess]

not tonite.

uk is playing but he seems to always be playing, he might have a problem.

[Nats' Fan]

uk is playing but he seems to always be playing, he might have a problem.

LOL. He needs an intervention.

[chantrain]

Again, I'm a Democrat.. but I'll be the first to admit, Obama has not been effective. Not to say he hasn't done some good things, cuz he has. But, he has fallen way short of what was promised.

That's just called 'being a Democrat'. Even when Democrats win, they still lose. and Every disgruntled liberal in america will line up and pull that lever for Obama again, because the Republicans will make the same mistake they made in 2008 and nominate some radical, religious right wing kook like Michelle Bachmann and alienate moderates and independents.

if Republicans ever figured out to nominate someone smart, sane and moderate...they would win the presidency. Let's see if they can figure that out this time around. Which of these chumps is even a sane moderate? Romney seems like the closest thing but he's so fake it's ridiculous. Faker than Snookies tan.

[Ian]

Anyone who thinks Paul has a greater than .5% chance of winning is delusional. He has 2:1 unfavorable ratings within his own party. Even in the unlikely event that his support gets as high as 20% he will still get clobbered because Republicans would back anybody but him once it got down to a 3 way race.

[rsnnh12]

thought you had me on ignore?

typical neocon/pathological liar.

I did, but I realized I don't want to miss more gems from you, like this one-

the dot com boom/bust had no significance to the economy whatsoever.

[Nats' Fan]

That's just called 'being a Democrat'. Even when Democrats win, they still lose. and Every disgruntled liberal in america will line up and pull that lever for Obama again, because the Republicans will make the same mistake they made in 2008 and nominate some radical, religious right wing kook like Michelle Bachmann and alienate moderates and independents.

if Republicans ever figured out to nominate someone smart, sane and moderate...they would win the presidency. Let's see if they can figure that out this time around. Which of these chumps is even a sane moderate? Romney seems like the closest thing but he's so fake it's ridiculous. Faker than Snookies tan.

Not true.. I was a Democrat long before I ever heard of Barack Obama. I long for the days of Bill Clinton.

[Nats' Fan]

Bill Clinton actually balanced the budget. Who was the last Republican to make that claim?

[chantrain]

Bill Clinton? That guy got hammered by Republicans in 1996 and had to move to the right. Just like Obama. Liberals can't win in this country.

[Nats' Fan]

Bill Clinton? That guy got hammered by Republicans in 1996 and had to move to the right. Just like Obama. Liberals can't win in this country.

Last I checked.. Liberals ran the Senate and the White house.

[stikymess]

That's just called 'being a Democrat'. Even when Democrats win, they still lose. and Every disgruntled liberal in america will line up and pull that lever for Obama again, because the Republicans will make the same mistake they made in 2008 and nominate some radical, religious right wing kook like Michelle Bachmann and alienate moderates and independents. if Republicans ever figured out to nominate someone smart, sane and moderate...they would win the presidency. Let's see if they can figure that out this time around. Which of these chumps is even a sane moderate? Romney seems like the closest thing but he's so fake it's ridiculous. Faker than Snookies tan.

Who do they/should they nomitate? Romney would seem like the front runner but you hit right on the nail, dude is fake. There is just no one that is charismatic enough from the repubs IMO. I think in the end the repubs fail to get someone in there to beat Obama. (unfortunately)

[Nats' Fan]

Are u talking numbers or philosophy?

[chantrain]

Bill Clinton collaborated with Phil Gramm and other Republicans to de-regulate which in turn helped lead to all this economic BS we have to deal with today. If regulatory committees had any teeth and weren't completely beholden to the corporations they're supposed to police, we could have avoided the 2008 economic collapse.

[rsnnh12]

Bill Clinton actually balanced the budget. Who was the last Republican to make that claim?

It was him working with the Republicans that did that.... he didn't do it by choice. He did it because they made him. Look what he did his first 2 years with a Dem House.

Republicans as POTUS haven't done even remotely close to as well at making a balanced budget tho

[Nats' Fan]

The 2008 collapse was caused by greedy people making bad loans..

[chantrain]

Last I checked.. Liberals ran the Senate and the White house.

I might have gotten the date wrong. 1994? isnt that the date Republicans won the House. Newt Gingrich, Contract With America, that whole thing? Politically Bill Clinton was forced to move to the right and govern with a more right-wing approach.

[Nats' Fan]

I might have gotten the date wrong. 1994? isnt that the date Republicans won the House. Newt Gingrich, Contract With America, that whole thing? Politically Bill Clinton was forced to move to the right and govern with a more right-wing approach.

Sorry.. missed the 1994.

[Nats' Fan]

What are the chances Obama gets "primaried" by Hilary?

[Nats' Fan]

.011% chance?

[chantrain]

Who do they/should they nomitate? Romney would seem like the front runner but you hit right on the nail, dude is fake. There is just no one that is charismatic enough from the repubs IMO. I think in the end the repubs fail to get someone in there to beat Obama. (unfortunately)

I really have no idea who they should pick, this entire crop is so underwhelming to me. I'm not against voting for a moderate Republican in theory but Republicans these days are so far to the right of Republicans even 30 or 40 years ago, that it just pushes people like me away from supporting them. The Republican party has become hijacked by know-nothings and religious crazies. The sane people are gone, or they're forced to cowtow to these know-nothings and crazies just to remain in office.

Bring back the intelligent Republican party.

[stikymess]

What are the chances Obama gets "primaried" by Hilary?

Well she said she doesn't want a 2nd term as Secretary of State, maybe she just rides off into the sunset.

[Iced]

I did, but I realized I don't want to miss more gems from you, like this one-

the dot com boom/bust had no significance to the economy whatsoever.

[Nats' Fan]

I really have no idea who they should pick, this entire crop is so underwhelming to me. I'm not against voting for a moderate Republican in theory but Republicans these days are so far to the right of Republicans even 30 or 40 years ago, that it just pushes people like me away from supporting them. The Republican party has become hijacked by know-nothings and religious crazies. The sane people are gone, or they're forced to cowtow to these know-nothings and crazies just to remain in office.

Bring back the intelligent Republican party.

Wasn't Mccain part of the "intelligent Republican party"?