Are the Phillies the Best Team in the Majors Since the 2001 Mariners???

[brahmabull117]

I can't remember a team that was this great all around since that Mariners team (talking exclusively regular season, we have no idea how good the Phils will be in the post season this year)



this team really has no weaknesses now with the addition of Hunter Pence... they have a good offense with the best starting staff in the league by far and a very good bullpen



I really think the Phillies will finish this season with 108+ wins

[dlunc3]

yes

[HoulihansTX]

no

The poster above is a shameless homer.

[HoulihansTX]

The Philles arw not even as goo as the Yanks or BoSox

[TrapperDapper]

It's a reasonable comparison. The M's did get wrecked in the playoffs though.

[MrShrink]

this team really has no weaknesses now with the addition of Hunter Pence...

As a lifelong Phillies fan (pre-Dykstra) AND a capper that strives to stay unbiased, I can happily and whole-heartedly agree with you. This team TRULY has NO weaknesses.

[Mikail]

Well if not then who has been better these last ten years? To me it's an obvious yes but i'm admittedly a Phillies fan.

[dlunc3]

The Philles arw not even as goo as the Yanks or BoSox

Yea genius, that yanks pitching staff is one for the ages

[Mikail]

The Philles arw not even as goo as the Yanks or BoSox

Yanks not even close. I could see the argument for the Red Sox but they aren't it either.

[InTheDrink]

The Philles arw not even as goo as the Yanks or BoSox

wakefield is starting for the red sox

along with andrew miller

[MrShrink]

The Philles arw not even as goo as the Yanks or BoSox

Too much sportscenter? I don't know... Can't even remember the last time I watched that.... But, yeah..... That's just a stupid statement. Sorry.

[HoulihansTX]

The fact that they win games with those guys plus Lackey, in a tougher diviion/league, play the Yanks 16 times a year, have the top offense in baseball, and have Beckett/Lester makes them the better team.

Its not a wide margin @all. But they are better.

[tonyp0387]

108 games lol. I remember in June they couldn't put up 3 runs . They will struggle to produce runs come September. 102 games tops.

[InTheDrink]

let's not act like the AL is miles better than the NL

interleague was AL 131 NL 121....that's 51.9%...which is basically the difference of NL rosters not being prepared for DH play

AL being WAY better than the NL is a huge myth

[solid152]

The fact that they win games with those guys plus Lackey, in a tougher diviion/league, play the Yanks 16 times a year, have the top offense in baseball, and have Beckett/Lester makes them the better team.

Its not a wide margin @all. But they are better.

Okay? The Phils have to play the Braves 16 times a year who are arguably better than the Yankees

[MrShrink]

The fact that they win games with those guys plus Lackey, in a tougher diviion/league, play the Yanks 16 times a year, have the top offense in baseball, and have Beckett/Lester makes them the better team.

Its not a wide margin @all. But they are better.

Nobody was comparing overall records. AND... The Phils already won a series against the Sox.

[brahmabull117]

The Philles arw not even as goo as the Yanks or BoSox

I hope this is a joke

Phils staff smashes the red sox and yankees staffs

[brahmabull117]

108 games lol. I remember in June they couldn't put up 3 runs . They will struggle to produce runs come September. 102 games tops.

Hunter pence makes a big difference


There is a lot of offensive firepower on this team, they were just underperforming in june

[MrShrink]

And how the faq is Beckett/Lester better than Halladay/Lee/Hamels/Oswalt/Worley?

Stop smoking bath salts, please.

[FishFace5]

I agree with Houli here. Go easy philly lovers
I would take any of the AL contenders over Philly.

[InTheDrink]

108 games lol. I remember in June they couldn't put up 3 runs . They will struggle to produce runs come September. 102 games tops.

youre a moron

a) chase utley was out when they werent scoring
b) hunter pence is filled a huge right hand bat void in the lineup
c) they've been red hot since the time you pointed out and are currently on pace for 106 wins...if ever a team is built to not have a losing streak this is it
d) youre a moron

[HoulihansTX]

let's not act like the AL is miles better than the NL

interleague was AL 131 NL 121....that's 51.9%...which is basically the difference of NL rosters not being prepared for DH play

AL being WAY better than the NL is a huge myth

NL has the two worst teams in baseball, record wise. Of the ten worst teams, in terms of runs scored the NL has six on the list.


The Philles are a great team. And just because I say they are not as good as the Yanks, and BoSox doesn't mean they are not competitive with them. Its extremely competitive, and the difference is only depth of starting pitching. Yanks, and BoSox both have better offenses and the bullpens are fairly equal.

[FishFace5]

Hey Shrink if you look at Phillies\SF in NL and BOS\TX and maybe even NYY in the AL these teams are all very even assuming good health.
Lets not make it seem like Halladay\Lee is dramatically better than Beckett\Lester in a seven game series. I would assume you would take Any of the AL offenses over your phillies?

[InTheDrink]

NL has the two worst teams in baseball, record wise. Of the ten worst teams, in terms of runs scored the NL has six on the list. The Philles are a great team. And just because I say they are not as good as the Yanks, and BoSox doesn't mean they are not competitive with them. Its extremely competitive, and the difference is only depth of starting pitching. Yanks, and BoSox both have better offenses and the bullpens are fairly equal.

who cares about what arbitrary stats you want to pull out? the AL was barely better than the NL head to head

and as noted by another poster the phils won their series against the sox

and please....stop with the yankees....freddy garcia and bartolo colon are about to wear down in 3....2....1....

[HoulihansTX]

Okay? The Phils have to play the Braves 16 times a year who are arguably better than the Yankees

Disagree

The strenth of schedule is not arguable.

[rm18]

They have no lineup it is all names, but they are washed up teams like the Mets and Tigers 10 times more explosive than them.

[InTheDrink]

Hey Shrink if you look at Phillies\SF in NL and BOS\TX and maybe even NYY in the AL these teams are all very even assuming good health. Lets not make it seem like Halladay\Lee is dramatically better than Beckett\Lester in a seven game series. I would assume you would take Any of the AL offenses over your phillies?

that's fine but Cole Hamels has been better than Cliff Lee this year

and yes Doc/Lee are dramatically better than Becket/Lester

[solid152]

Disagree

The strenth of schedule is not arguable.

strength of schedule the days of the AL being the almighty league are over. get over it.

[FishFace5]

The Braves are better than the Yankees....
Any combo of pitchers is dramatically better than Beckett\Lester. HAHA
Come on fellas. I can tell all you guys are philly fans but lets not start talking stupid.
I mean the guy who said the braves were better than the Yankees has clearly been drinking all night and I would like to revisit this thread when we have Red Sox\ Phillies in the WS and Sox are the favorite

[tonyp0387]

that's fine but Cole Hamels has been better than Cliff Lee this year

and yes Doc/Lee are dramatically better than Becket/Lester

They are not, Look who they pitch against in the AL are u kidding me? You think Atlanta and the Mets have the big bats in MLB?

[drfunkmaster]

is this a joke

[InTheDrink]

They are not, Look who they pitch against in the AL are u kidding me? You think Atlanta and the Mets have the big bats in MLB?

beckett's having a great season no doubt but let's face it...everyone, particularly red sox fans, are waiting for the other shoe to drop with him...his era is almost a run lower than his next best season and that was nearly 10 years ago

he will fall apart very soon

it's not like lee and halladay havent done it in BOTH leagues

and who are you gonna compare to hamels? bedard?

[MrShrink]

youre a moron a) chase utley was out when they werent scoring b) hunter pence is filled a huge right hand bat void in the lineup c) they've been red hot since the time you pointed out and are currently on pace for 106 wins...if ever a team is built to not have a losing streak this is it d) youre a moron

And don't forget how well Martinez has progressed at both the plate and in the field since. People don't realise how the Phils have been producing at the plate like they have largely without POLANCO because of how well Martinez has filled in at 3rd.

NL has the two worst teams in baseball, record wise. Of the ten worst teams, in terms of runs scored the NL has six on the list. (uhhhhh... okkk.....)..... and the difference is only depth of starting pitching.

Hey Shrink if you look at Phillies\SF in NL and BOS\TX and maybe even NYY in the AL these teams are all very even assuming good health. Lets not make it seem like Halladay\Lee is dramatically better than Beckett\Lester in a seven game series. I would assume you would take Any of the AL offenses over your phillies?

Nope. Howard, admittedly, is not the type of threat that maybe Ortiz or (insert yankees slugger) is. He is too easily owned by L's at times and gets himself into terrible counts way too often. He often sticks out like a sore thumb in their lineup to me. Not for his brawn, but for his lack of baseball iq at the plate, comparatively, to the rest of the Phils' lineup. But they've got lots of great hitters and baserunners and plenty of depth for pinch hitting. I'll take the Phils, at least with the pairing of their offense with their pitchers... And that's all that matters.

[MrShrink]

it's not like lee and halladay havent done it in BOTH leagues and who are you gonna compare to hamels? bedard?

Seriously... And look at the Phils' fielding... Are you kidding me?

[MrShrink]

102 games tops.

Woe is them.... Jackass.