Intertops - who's using them and how's it going?

**tacomax** · 04-03-06, 10:10 AM

Layout is awful - went in to check out the bases prices today and I can't get them all listed on a single screen. You have to check the AL lines and the NL lines seperately. Something as dumb as that just wastes my time.

**natrass** · 04-03-06, 11:12 AM

Dumb question (for a change) ... but whats a 'base price'??

**tacomax** · 04-03-06, 11:14 AM

Baseball.

**Mudcat** · 04-03-06, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by tacomax

Layout is awful - went in to check out the bases prices today and I can't get them all listed on a single screen. You have to check the AL lines and the NL lines seperately. Something as dumb as that just wastes my time.

I know but I sometimes think that, if they had everything all laid out in a tidy grid, they would have more sharp customers and the lines would become less opinionated.

It's a theory.

But whether that's true or not, when I put in the extra work of going through what they're offering, I find some odd (in a good way) lines there pretty often.

**natrass** · 04-03-06, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by tacomax

Baseball.

Thanks for that.

Suprisingly, I have a follow up question ...

... Ive seen on betjam that they have the odds and also boxes with "win price", "base price", etc.

Now, I havent got a clue what they are going on about there (and I suspect nobody else does either).

But I may be wrong.

**tacomax** · 04-03-06, 02:51 PM

A base amount dictates the level of your wager and your final wager amount depends on whether it's an underdog or favourite.

Say you've got a -120/+110 match at Pinnacle. If you bet $100 as a base amount on the -120 odds, you are actually betting $120 to win $100 (the base amount). If you bet $100 as a base amount on the +110 odds then you are risking $100 (the base amount) to win $110.

It's a lot more complicated to explain that it actually is in practice.

**natrass** · 04-03-06, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by tacomax

A base amount dictates the level of your wager and your final wager amount depends on whether it's an underdog or favourite.

Say you've got a -120/+110 match at Pinnacle. If you bet $100 as a base amount on the -120 odds, you are actually betting $120 to win $100 (the base amount). If you bet $100 as a base amount on the +110 odds then you are risking $100 (the base amount) to win $110.

It's a lot more complicated to explain that it actually is in practice.

I think you have just made that up. Or it is very complicated.

The base amount is a different part of the equation in both your examples ... its the 'win amount' in the first and the 'wager amount' in the second.

Surely, the same term cant mean two different things?????

If I bet $40 on a +200 with the base amount ticked ... how much would I win? Conversely, if I bet $40 on a -200 with the base amount ticked how much would I get?

It sounds like I just need to know one and always use that, so Im going for the 'base amount'.

**tacomax** · 04-03-06, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by natrass

I think you have just made that up. Or it is very complicated.

Nope, it's true - I checked it at Pinny when I was doing it as I've never used it. Since I'm old skool I always use the "Risk" or "Win" buttons.

Originally posted by natrass

The base amount is a different part of the equation in both your examples ... its the 'win amount' in the first and the 'wager amount' in the second.

Yes, the base amount of X means that you win X when you back a favourite or risk X when you back an underdog.

**tacomax** · 04-03-06, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by natrass

If I bet $40 on a +200 with the base amount ticked ... how much would I win?

You'd win $80 (and receive back a total of $120 which includes your $40 wager).

Originally posted by natrass

Conversely, if I bet $40 on a -200 with the base amount ticked how much would I get?

You'd win $40 (and you will have been risking $80 to win that $40).

**natrass** · 04-03-06, 03:35 PM

Wow ... Im glad I found this out as Ive been playing at betjam thinking it was some irrelevant thing.

Good job Im the fussy type who triple checks my bets ... explains why I thought their software was faulty as well.

Cheers pal.

**David** · 04-05-06, 01:30 PM

How fast are they with neteller payouts?

**Mudcat** · 04-05-06, 01:59 PM

Not especially fast. They advertise 48 hours and, in my experience, they take every second of that 48 hours.

**David** · 04-05-06, 02:15 PM

Yes, I requested a payout yesterday and am still waiting. Was hoping it wouldn't take the full 48 hours.

**Stumpage** · 04-05-06, 04:54 PM

As to the payouts....I have only once ever had a "speedy" payout of less than 48 hours. My latest request went into the system Monday morning (just before 9 am) and the funnds were removed from my account about 40 hours later. However, it took another 12 hours on top of that for the removed funds to arrive in the Land of Neteller. So all in all, like Mudcat said, they did indeed take every second of the 48 hours (And more).