Sites Like SBR Dwindle in Value

[shari91]

Shari- Are you still going to the SBR Bash?? Looking forward to seeing you there, hun.

Yeah, seems so unless God strikes me down for selling my soul to SBR. I'll be working most of it but we'll definitely have to catch up for a drink at some point.

[Grandmaster B]

Here is the breakdown

United States 43.2%
Russia 6.2%
Canada 6.2%
India 5.5%
Costa Rica 5.1%
China 3.4%
United Kingdom 2.6%
Germany 2.5%
Sweden 2.5%
Philippines 2.0%

well that sure is interesting

you would think the way shari91 talks losing the US customer base would have NO IMPACT at all to SBR's bottom line

Yeah, seems so unless God strikes me down for selling my soul to SBR. I'll be working most of it but we'll definitely have to catch up for a drink at some point.

SBR John is your God now

[shari91]

nobody cares about your plays buried in a sub forum...trust me on that

you dont post your plays in players talk because you dont want them to be seen...and everyone knows the reason why

post a play for ALL to see or else your words about 'contributing' are nothing more than the usual fluff you dribble out in your essays

nobody cares about your automated views either

You are an absolute nutter. I'm automating views yet I have people bumping my thread because I took the past week and a half off from tennis. Be proud of those 25 threads you made. Good job.

[crustyme]

never understood why mods on gambling forums are predominantly neocon supporters. they are basically giving themselves pink slips.

[shari91]

well that sure is interesting you would think the way shari91 talks losing the US customer base would have NO IMPACT at all to SBR's bottom line

Yep, I said that. But I'm getting old so could you refresh my mind on where I posted that again? I did definitely make a mistake though - I said the break down was 50/50 when it seems the US comprises less than that.

[shari91]

never understood why mods on gambling forums are predominantly neocon supporters. they are basically giving themselves pink slips.

If you're talking about me, I'll vote for anyone at this point who attempts to fix this bloody mess. I'm just really surprised a politician hasn't successfully stepped up to the plate yet. I will say though that the guy who got my vote in the last US election sure as hell isn't getting it again because he doesn't seem to be much better/different than the freedom haters who came before him.

[Grandmaster B]

If you're talking about me, I'll vote for anyone at this point who attempts to fix this bloody mess. I'm just really surprised a politician hasn't successfully stepped up to the plate yet. I will say though that the guy who got my vote in the last US election sure as hell isn't getting it again because he doesn't seem to be much better/different than the freedom haters who came before him.

you do know it was a Republican who slipped the online gambling bill inside a port act dont you?

[jjgold]

Walker called me again

He said to me very strongly

Business as usually JJ in a real strong tone and he seemed angry

[onlooker]

Here JJ and Shari, I think you are running out of these, with this BetJam and Greek situation. Here is another box.

[jjgold]

Jamaica accounts got transferred to a solid book

Greek had like 50 forum players with an average bet of $25

You cannot win here

I will win

Business as usual

[Grandmaster B]

You are an absolute nutter. I'm automating views yet I have people bumping my thread because I took the past week and a half off from tennis. Be proud of those 25 threads you made. Good job.

Im the 'nutter?'

but you're telling me 200,000 people are clammering for a -950 tennis bet at 3 in the morning?

[shari91]

you do know it was a Republican who slipped the online gambling bill inside a port act dont you?

Nah, didn't realise that. Have been living under a rock the past few years. You do realise that the guy in office right now who is watching fake processors being set up, the government spending a book's funds on cop cars and having poker sites shut down while Americans' hard-earned cash is in limboland is a Dem, right? Neither of those parties are better than the other at this point and unless someone steps up and finally says enough is enough, neither party is getting my vote. I'd rather give it to JJ at this point. Despite what you like to believe, I actually have a vested interest in Americans being allowed to sportsbet online and it has nothing to do with SBR. Watching any of this happen not only angers me, it saddens me but unfortunately as one person I don't have much recourse other than to withhold my puny vote from those who continue to smack Americans down.

[Grandmaster B]

OP is a thief who gives a fuk about his opinion, the guy is so pathetic he had to steal pennies from fellow posters to feed his degen habit. Stiffs are the scum of the earth.

did THEGREAT30 stiff you frizz?

[shari91]

Im the 'nutter?'

but you're telling me 200,000 people are clammering for a -950 tennis bet at 3 in the morning?

If you ever see me make anything close to even a -500 tennis bet, then come talk to me. Again you just have no clue and are merely talking out of your ass. Don't you ever get sick of being wrong all of the time?

[crustyme]

If you're talking about me, I'll vote for anyone at this point who attempts to fix this bloody mess. I'm just really surprised a politician hasn't successfully stepped up to the plate yet. I will say though that the guy who got my vote in the last US election sure as hell isn't getting it again because he doesn't seem to be much better/different than the freedom haters who came before him.

actually, was referring to jj/dozer and others.

don't really understand all this hate towards obama. he's done a remarkable job with all the sh*t he inherited.

[Grandmaster B]

actually, was referring to jj/dozer and others.

don't really understand all this hate towards obama. he's done a remarkable job with all the sh*t he inherited.

you did it now

be prepared for a 'shar91' fluff essay with no substance coming your way shortly

'shari91' does NOT like to be shown when the foot has entered the mouth

[jjgold]

numbers up
quotas filled already for July

px ratings high
pp/hr up
tp..per week up

[shari91]

actually, was referring to jj/dozer and others. don't really understand all this hate towards obama. he's done a remarkable job with all the sh*t he inherited.

Ah ok, cool. I personally don't have a lot of bad things to say about Obama (although there definitely is some) but I am really pissed off at what's been happening the past few months. That cop car incident was the icing on the cake for me. I have cash sitting in FullTilt that's been left for dead and watching so many people across forums lose money and have their options cut is seriously making me angry. He didn't initiate this process but he's done nothing to squash it or slow it down either (that I've seen anyway) but really I can only blame myself for naively assuming that this wouldn't happen under his watch.

[jjgold]

I will make video on this topic

[Bill Dozer]

Bet365, Will Hill and Ladbrokes are three major sponsors. Some of the Euro books dont want to be global so if youre in the USA you might not see them and our full list of advertisers.

There was a time 365 and willhill were taking US players and there was a lot more business. But with a business you evolve or die. Thats why SBR is the only growing forum in the facebook age when forums aren't as popular. We'll have 2 million visists a month this football season.

[jjgold]

bet365, will hill and ladbrokes are three major sponsors. Some of the euro books dont want to be global so if youre in the usa you might not see them and our full list of advertisers.

There was a time 365 and willhill were taking us players and there was a lot more business. But with a business you evolve or die. Thats why sbr is the only growing forum in the facebook age when forums aren't as popular. We'll have 2 million visists a month this football season.

end of thread

bang

[The Bet Master]

Nah, didn't realise that. Have been living under a rock the past few years. You do realise that the guy in office right now who is watching fake processors being set up, the government spending a book's funds on cop cars and having poker sites shut down while Americans' hard-earned cash is in limboland is a Dem, right? Neither of those parties are better than the other at this point and unless someone steps up and finally says enough is enough, neither party is getting my vote. I'd rather give it to JJ at this point. Despite what you like to believe, I actually have a vested interest in Americans being allowed to sportsbet online and it has nothing to do with SBR. Watching any of this happen not only angers me, it saddens me but unfortunately as one person I don't have much recourse other than to withhold my puny vote from those who continue to smack Americans down.

Hey please don't hate on the President for actually doing something right. He can't just ignore the law that was passed that went into affect during his presidency. You can hate on him for a lot of other things but this gambling thing is 100% the result of bush and the republicans and there should be no denying that.

[jjgold]

What is really funny is lets say not one book took American Players our USA traffic would still be heavy

Why??

They would visit site for various reasons whether point book, posting picks, general sports talk, sbr lines
your gamblers and you will still find ways to bet therefore seek gambling info even if not book related

[shari91]

Hey please don't hate on the President for actually doing something right. He can't just ignore the law that was passed that went into affect during his presidency. You can hate on him for a lot of other things but this gambling thing is 100% the result of bush and the republicans and there should be no denying that.

No I realise that and really I'm just venting about this today when I've held my tongue about the political side of it for many months. Again though, he does have recourse to at least pretend to attempt to halt what's going on or even just give the impression that he gives a rats ass. Maybe I've missed it (which I very well could have) but I've never heard him come out and say that he doesn't support this but is merely following the law. I'm just really disillusioned and for all the good that he may have done, this issue in particular affects many people I know personally and of course even just forum friends who live in the States so today it's the one that's pissing me off. The only thing that's making me somewhat ok with it all is that at least the Greek and BetJam were able to exit with players' funds still intact so I'm trying to remain glass half full here.

[InTheDrink]

Here is the breakdown United States 43.2% Russia 6.2% Canada 6.2% India 5.5% Costa Rica 5.1% China 3.4% United Kingdom 2.6% Germany 2.5% Sweden 2.5% Philippines 2.0%

I'd have thought sbr would be blocked in communist china

[Emily_Haines]

I'm just here to rag on the GOP

[Richkas]

People will need SBR more than ever now so they can get their payout from them c rated books that they will be using.

[crustyme]

Ah ok, cool. I personally don't have a lot of bad things to say about Obama (although there definitely is some) but I am really pissed off at what's been happening the past few months. That cop car incident was the icing on the cake for me. I have cash sitting in FullTilt that's been left for dead and watching so many people across forums lose money and have their options cut is seriously making me angry. He didn't initiate this process but he's done nothing to squash it or slow it down either (that I've seen anyway) but really I can only blame myself for naively assuming that this wouldn't happen under his watch.

why does he get any blame at all for this? he didn't draft it. he didn't sneak it through in the middle of the night. he didn't sign it in to law. nor do i recall him ever mentioning it during his campaign. it's probably not even top 20 priority for him.

what i find hypocritical is whenever he takes 15 mins out his day to fill out his march madness bracket, neocons want him burned at the stake because they claim he has "more urgent things to do with his time." same response when he tweeted about the us women's soccer team recently. yet they now want him to devote all his time and energy on a law concerning sports?

apparently if he obeys the law, he's no different than the scoundrels that enacted it. but if he opposes the law, he's labeled an anarchist who is stomping & pissing on the us constitution.

damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

[shari91]

why does he get any blame at all for this? he didn't draft it. he didn't sneak it through in the middle of the night. he didn't sign it in to law. nor do i recall him ever mentioning it during his campaign. it's probably not even top 20 priority for him. what i find hypocritical is whenever he takes 15 mins out his day to fill out his march madness bracket, neocons want him burned at the stake because they claim he has "more urgent things to do with his time." same response when he tweeted about the us women's soccer team recently. yet they now want him to devote all his time and energy on a law concerning sports? apparently if he obeys the law, he's no different than the scoundrels that enacted it. but if he opposes the law, he's labeled an anarchist who is stomping & pissing on the us constitution. damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Well yeah, in a way he kind of is but that's just part and parcel of being the President - it's not going to be any different for him than it was for those who came before him. Most people are only concerned about what he does that directly concerns them on any given day. You and I could have a rational discussion where we come up with 100 positive things that he has done since taking office and why I'm happy I voted for him, but then mention the offshore issue and what's transpired in the past few months and I'll still say that I'm pissed. He may not consider this even a top 50 priority but obviously the IRS, Homeland Security and Customs do even by just setting up Linwood so I don't think he should be given a pass here. The fact that the US economy is tanking and some of his citizens no longer have access to their cash and have no indication if/when they ever will (in some cases tens of thousands of dollars) should warrant SOMETHING, if not from him than by someone who represents him if he truly didn't support what's going on.

[THEGREAT30]

Bet365, Will Hill and Ladbrokes are three major sponsors. Some of the Euro books dont want to be global so if youre in the USA you might not see them and our full list of advertisers.

There was a time 365 and willhill were taking US players and there was a lot more business. But with a business you evolve or die. Thats why SBR is the only growing forum in the facebook age when forums aren't as popular. We'll have 2 million visists a month this football season.

It is nice to read of your bloated expectactions but that does not mean a thing. What does traffic have to do with anything? That does not mean anything you will be offering offers real value. Any book that you can connect US players with is a second rate shop compared to the Greek, Jamaica, and Pinny. Oh, I get it you only care about your traffic because it is what decides how much income you get. Telling statement from the head of the snake, he thinks of us all as mere traffic.

[pavyracer]

This fall will be a make it or break it quarter for SBR. No one knows the impact of this crackdown on US posters. I'm making a bold prediction that their revenue will be half of what it was last year based on US posters not depositing at the books SBR got them to sign up as affiliates because these books have closed their accounts.

[ThaWoj]

pavy whos the avatar?

[Roadtrip635]

Honest question: Do you think if every offshore book said no to US customers, that Americans would stop coming here? Based on what I see - especially in PT - a lot of people aren't even using this site for all or any of the gambling tools it offers. Many are here just to socialise, talk about sports, troll, etc... In fact for some I think it's more of a habit or a fun place to hang out online than anything to do with gambling as I suspect quite a few don't even have books funded. There are many people who openly admit that they don't gamble or stopped gambling yet they're still active on the forum so they're still finding value here but it just may not be what one would assume would be the traditional reason for it.

I agree there will still be some US based forum members if there were no books open to Americans, but the number would continue to drop. The target audience for SBR would shift much more heavily towards the global market. Why would those books want to target and promote US based sports as heavily as are presently promoted on SBR, I realize there is world wide interest in American sports, but would they really want to sponsor a MLB capping contest if Americans couldn't even make deposits to profit from. Wouldn't it make more sense for these advertisers to want to sponsor Beat The Prick Futbol instead of Beat The Prick American Football? I know there are plenty of American ex-pats living abroad and other gamblers around the world that will always have an interest in American sports, just saying that the focus of SBR would change. Less NFL, MLB, etc and more soccer, rugby, cricket, F1 racing, non-US horse racing, etc coverage, articles and resources, which for the majority of US punters is not nearly as appealing. SBR would not be able to profit nearly as much from American forum members as the rest of the global community. I'm not saying that SBR would suffer from less American involvement, I'm saying that the future for US based gamblers is looking bleak and sites like SBR would be less attractive.

[SBR_John]

SBR is moving forward. We just need to keep creating cool things for everyone to get involved in.

Btw the SBR reviews are more popular than ever probably because many guys are looking for expert info on where they should play now. That area is quite strong.

Our goals are to improve in all areas. We continue to hire. Our sales to Euro books has grown nicely. Contests like the recent SBR poker Ryder Cup are examples of how we need to grow the entertainment value for all comers.

If this was a horse race the jock callers would maybe say we are passing some tired horses as it does appear our competitors are out of gas. But give the devil his due. SBR is still investing heavily in the content so that folks can come here and have a great time now and an even better time in the future. We will stay focused on providing great entertainment and info and if we provide a site you guys really like we will be ok.

[Grandmaster B]

The cockiness of jjgold and shari here is unbelievable. Good Luck being employed by SBR 2 years from now.

If you think SBR can survive without US posters, then you guys are bigger idiots than I initially thought.